Unused OBC

[sullyd]

9 minutes ago, jagoffee said:

Are you on a one person campaign to get all of the Celebrity ship to fixed this “loophole” if they have not already?

Do really think they don’t know people do this?

[Silkroad]

6 hours ago, wrk2cruise said:

OBC can be transferred to another passenger or can be used for additional tips.

I’m getting my t-shirt printed now. It says, “Can’t stand the thought of leaving OBC on the table? Feel free to transfer your unused OBC to me!”  😜

 

 

[Guppy99]

2 hours ago, superduper123 said:

We'll see what happens. I'm not a gambler. We have the "always included" so tips and drinks are already covered. I don't think I can spend $1700 in the shops and spa. 😉

Everyone I know would be getting jewelry, handbags, or perfume for Christmas.

[wrk2cruise]

1 hour ago, Silkroad said:

I’m getting my t-shirt printed now. It says, “Can’t stand the thought of leaving OBC on the table? Feel free to transfer your unused OBC to me!”  😜

 

 

 

And I will take FCC you are unable to use off your hands as well.

[Ipeeinthepools]

6 hours ago, sullyd said:

Go to the casino put in slot machine an cash out 

 

Shhhh !

[jagoffee]

9 hours ago, sullyd said:

Do really think they don’t know people do this?

If you are suggesting cashing out without making the equivalent bets, I am certain that this is not the intent of Non Refundable OBC.  I cannot say that I have tried it on every Celebrity ship, but I know it does not work that way on several of the ships.  I could cash out all my wins and pushes, but the amount that I need not bet went back on my card to be used for betting.  
 

Do you actually think Celebrity considers this an acceptable use of non refundable OBC?

[TFree]

Just off Apex a few days ago. We “laundered” OBC through the casino both on table games and slot machines. For both uses you have to play all of the promo chips or credits. For tables it is easy, you just use the promo chips and set aside the real chips you win. For slots you sort of have to keep track of how much you have played, or periodically check the balance by cashing out winnings. Either way, really easy. We also had a lot of onward credit due to a price drop after final payment. We gambled around $1400 in table play and slots, and actually came out ahead!

 

Tom & Judy

Edited May 29, 2022 by TFree

[Dar & Bob]

18 hours ago, jagoffee said:

Are you on a one person campaign to get all of the Celebrity ship to fixed this “loophole” if they have not already?

I am not sure this is a loophole per say.  Part of our OBC was from buying the Indulge Package which we got $600 in OBC - I wouldn't consider that "their" money. If they cutoff the ability to use this for gambling I would think that would cut down on guests purchasing the package.  The rest was from a drop in price that I received OBC.  In the past another cruiseline actually refunded the drop in price, so I still consider this my money not actually a gift from Celebrity.  Hopefully they feel the same way.  Most of us using it in the casino leave some behind.

[sullyd]

8 hours ago, jagoffee said:

If you are suggesting cashing out without making the equivalent bets, I am certain that this is not the intent of Non Refundable OBC.  I cannot say that I have tried it on every Celebrity ship, but I know it does not work that way on several of the ships.  I could cash out all my wins and pushes, but the amount that I need not bet went back on my card to be used for betting.  
 

Do you actually think Celebrity considers this an acceptable use of non refundable OBC?

If they allow you to do it then yes . It’s your money you gave it to them they cut their price and gave It back.

[Turtles06]

5 hours ago, TFree said:

Just off Apex a few days ago. We “laundered” OBC through the casino both on table games and slot machines. For both uses you have to play all of the promo chips or credits. For tables it is easy, you just use the promo chips and set aside the real chips you win. For slots you sort of have to keep track of how much you have played, or periodically check the balance by cashing out winnings. Either way, really easy. We also had a lot of onward credit due to a price drop after final payment. We gambled around $1400 in table play and slots, and actually came out ahead!

 

 

Thanks for the helpful information.  Sorry if this question seems obtuse, but when you go to the casino, and have all of that OBC, how are you certain that it's your OBC that is being used to "pay for" the chips, and not an additional charge to your onboard account?  (Same question when you play the slots.)

[Dar & Bob]

47 minutes ago, Turtles06 said:

 

Thanks for the helpful information.  Sorry if this question seems obtuse, but when you go to the casino, and have all of that OBC, how are you certain that it's your OBC that is being used to "pay for" the chips, and not an additional charge to your onboard account?  (Same question when you play the slots.)

When you look on the App it tells you how much OBC you have.  When we moved money to our "bank" with the casino our OBC was decreased by that amount.  

[Guppy99]

If you have $100 in non-refundable credit you can NOT just transfer it to a slot machine and then cash it out. You have to bet the whole $100. You can cash out your winnings.  If you win $50, then you are $50 ahead in cash, but you will have lost $50 in spending power onboard. The likelihood of you gambling $1700 in OBC and walking away with $1700+ is next to nil because the odds are with the casino.

 

and this is not a "loophole".

Edited May 29, 2022 by Guppy99

[Veinless]

Just now, Guppy99 said:

If you have $100 in non-refundable credit you can just transfer it to a slot machine and then cash it out. You have to bet the whole $100. You can cash out your winnings.  If you win $50, then you are $50 ahead in cash, but you will have lost $50 in spending power onboard. The likelihood of you gambling $1700 in OBC and walking away with $1700+ is next to nil because the odds are with the casino.

 

and this is not a "loophole".

I’m naive about the casino - would they just give you $1700 in straight cash if you did win that or is there a limit?

[Guppy99]

7 minutes ago, Veinless said:

I’m naive about the casino - would they just give you $1700 in straight cash if you did win that or is there a limit?

All winnings are paid in cash, if that's your question. They don't give you a check. I sat next to someone who won the $25k progressive bonus and he got cash

[Veinless]

Thanks!

[keesar]

49 minutes ago, Guppy99 said:

If you have $100 in non-refundable credit you can NOT just transfer it to a slot machine and then cash it out. You have to bet the whole $100. You can cash out your winnings.  If you win $50, then you are $50 ahead in cash, but you will have lost $50 in spending power onboard. The likelihood of you gambling $1700 in OBC and walking away with $1700+ is next to nil because the odds are with the casino.

 

and this is not a "loophole".

 

It depends on the particular ship's casino  if you have to bet the entire amount. 

[Guppy99]

41 minutes ago, keesar said:

 

It depends on the particular ship's casino  if you have to bet the entire amount. 

I don't think it does. The casino isn't run by the ship or even Celebrity. It's a 3rd party vendor. I think it's more likely that a person can lose track of the transfers versus winnings.  Also, this is exactly how the casino packages work.

[Bgwest]

On 5/28/2022 at 12:08 PM, sullyd said:

Put key card in charged it to room cashed out ,took the ticket to cashier and they gave me cash

 

Edited May 30, 2022 by Bgwest

[upwarduk]

On 5/29/2022 at 2:54 PM, Dar & Bob said:

When you look on the App it tells you how much OBC you have. 

Do you have to wait until you get on board.

I have just been given OBC due to a price drop, but I can’t yet see it.

[Dar & Bob]

46 minutes ago, upwarduk said:

Do you have to wait until you get on board.

I have just been given OBC due to a price drop, but I can’t yet see it.

We have a cruise booked for next May, I don't see the OBC on the App yet but when I login on the website and go to Manage My Reservation and then go to Plan My Cruise it shows my total OBC at the top. 

[TFree]

On 5/29/2022 at 3:06 PM, Turtles06 said:

 

Thanks for the helpful information.  Sorry if this question seems obtuse, but when you go to the casino, and have all of that OBC, how are you certain that it's your OBC that is being used to "pay for" the chips, and not an additional charge to your onboard account?  (Same question when you play the slots.)

You go to the cashier, and tell them that you want to use your pre-purchased table play now. They then give you the promotional chips. Or in the case of pre-purchased slot play, you go to the cashier, and tell them that you want to use your pre-purchased slot credit. At that point, they load that onto the sea pass card and you use it with any of the machines. I understand the concern behind your question, but the simple answer is that you go to the cashier and tell them exactly what you want to do.

 

Tom & Judy

[Guppy99]

2 hours ago, upwarduk said:

Do you have to wait until you get on board.

I have just been given OBC due to a price drop, but I can’t yet see it.

yes, when you get on board

[jagoffee]

On 5/29/2022 at 10:37 AM, Guppy99 said:

If you have $100 in non-refundable credit you can NOT just transfer it to a slot machine and then cash it out. You have to bet the whole $100. You can cash out your winnings.  If you win $50, then you are $50 ahead in cash, but you will have lost $50 in spending power onboard. The likelihood of you gambling $1700 in OBC and walking away with $1700+ is next to nil because the odds are with the casino.

 

and this is not a "loophole".

Of course it is not.  It is exactly how it is intended to work.

 

 

[Ipeeinthepools]

Just out of curiosity, how much can you win at the casino before Celebrity reports that amount to the IRS?

[JG-TX]

On 5/28/2022 at 8:02 AM, cruisestitch said:

*Luggage Valet

 

Is luggage valet currently offered? I asked my TA about it a few hours ago and he told me that he talked to Celebrity and they told him it isn't being offered now.