Deployment 2024-25 booking season begins

[OfTheSeasCruiser]

2 minutes ago, toad455 said:

 

I don't see the Odyssey's itineraries for January 2025. I hope they're keeping the 11 day sailings out of Cape Liberty.

These are just the test uploads. All the sailings won’t be available until next week. But the St Maarten port schedule suggests Odyssey will be doing 11 night itineraries in January 2025

[Jack McGowan]

Do we think Symphony to NJ is permanent? I.e - in Summer 25 will it carry on being Symphony or return to being Oasis once she’s back from Europe. 

[SummmerInKefalonia]

They are gonna be big changes in Northern Europe from 2026 and onwards.

The strict restrictions on emissions will play a key role in to which ships will be used up there and how many it will be.

Check this:

https://www.sdir.no/en/news/news-from-the-nma/proposed-requirement-to-achieve-zero-emissions-in-the-world-heritage-fjords-by-2026/

[ocean sounds]

4 hours ago, STEVE-O said:

… Our TA is trying to get a Junior Suite for the Grand Suite price ( now doesn’t that sound odd!!!)

afraid that may alert and red flag the GS, OS pricing deals. 

Edited February 17, 2023 by ocean sounds

[STEVE-O]

8 minutes ago, ocean sounds said:

afraid that may alert and red flag the GS, OS pricing deals. 

TA got it done for us.  She said these sailings are a hot topic amongst TA's........ If the word is that widespread,  Royal is sure to catch wind of it.

 

Prices are unchanged as of a few minutes ago.....

Edited February 17, 2023 by STEVE-O

[Chiliburn]

17 minutes ago, SummmerInKefalonia said:

They are gonna be big changes in Northern Europe from 2026 and onwards.

The strict restrictions on emissions will play a key role in to which ships will be used up there and how many it will be.

Check this:

https://www.sdir.no/en/news/news-from-the-nma/proposed-requirement-to-achieve-zero-emissions-in-the-world-heritage-fjords-by-2026/

New Zealand won’t be far behind,I have often wondered about the clouds of garbage that fill the fjords.

Just about every captains corner someone brings it up . 
 

It’s just steam ,nothing to be concerned about. LOL

[ONECRUISER]

1 hour ago, Saab4444 said:

Have you looked at the rates Royal Is currently requesting for Northern Europe 2023 and 2024? This is much more than any US (Caribbean, Alaska or Northeast) deployment can bring into their pocket. Yes Baltic season 2022 was very poor with the first time a big ship was based in Copenhagen but the market is back to normal now and other cruise lines from the US and Europe fill big and new ships in the Baltic. 

Though Royal is making a Ton on all the Ships stopping at Coco Cay now, think all that money going into their Pocket.

[ocean sounds]

29 minutes ago, STEVE-O said:

TA got it done for us.  She said these sailings are a hot topic amongst TA's........ If the word is that widespread,  Royal is sure to catch wind of it.

 

Prices are unchanged as of a few minutes ago.....

Glad you are all booked!  I also booked one a few days ago.  Fingers crossed 🤞🏼

[Saab4444]

57 minutes ago, SummmerInKefalonia said:

They are gonna be big changes in Northern Europe from 2026 and onwards.

The strict restrictions on emissions will play a key role in to which ships will be used up there and how many it will be.

Check this:

https://www.sdir.no/en/news/news-from-the-nma/proposed-requirement-to-achieve-zero-emissions-in-the-world-heritage-fjords-by-2026/

This applies to the Norwegian Fjords but not to the Baltic, UK, Western Europe or the bigger City stops in Scandinavia. But yes, further deployment changed will be required. Utopia as LNG ship would be suitable but too big for most ports. Maybe this is why Royal is slowly leaving Northern Europe, wrong ships…

[geoff2802]

5 minutes ago, Saab4444 said:

This applies to the Norwegian Fjords but not to the Baltic, UK, Western Europe or the bigger City stops in Scandinavia. But yes, further deployment changed will be required. Utopia as LNG ship would be suitable but too big for most ports. Maybe this is why Royal is slowly leaving Northern Europe, wrong ships…

 

1 hour ago, SummmerInKefalonia said:

They are gonna be big changes in Northern Europe from 2026 and onwards.

The strict restrictions on emissions will play a key role in to which ships will be used up there and how many it will be.

Check this:

https://www.sdir.no/en/news/news-from-the-nma/proposed-requirement-to-achieve-zero-emissions-in-the-world-heritage-fjords-by-2026/

Interesting.  Does any cruise line have zero emission ships in the pipeline? 

[Ulsteinvik]

Jewel of the Seas disappeared also from Reykjaviks cruise list on August 2024. Only the 2 calls in May and June remain. So I expect a shorter Northern Europe season for Jewel, last planned cruise could be the 11 night British Isles cruise on 18 July 2024 before heading to the Med.

[Chiliburn]

29 minutes ago, geoff2802 said:

 

Interesting.  Does any cruise line have zero emission ships in the pipeline? 

Wasn’t icon supposed to be a hydrogen full cell ?

That would be the only practical fuel unless they had a battery pack for entering the fjords.

[geoff2802]

37 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

Wasn’t icon supposed to be a hydrogen full cell ?

That would be the only practical fuel unless they had a battery pack for entering the fjords.

Yes, Icon has fuel cell and LNG.  Of course it won’t be going to Norway.   

[Chiliburn]

4 minutes ago, geoff2802 said:

Yes, Icon has fuel cell and LNG.  Of course it won’t be going to Norway.   

It does have hydrogen fuel cells? I thought they dropped that.

Maybe the rumours of the new Discovery class ,it might have something.

[geoff2802]

10 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

It does have hydrogen fuel cells? I thought they dropped that.

Maybe the rumours of the new Discovery class ,it might have something.

I may have read outdated information.  
Can’t imagine the ship could travel far on a fuel cell

[geoff2802]

59 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

Wasn’t icon supposed to be a hydrogen full cell ?

That would be the only practical fuel unless they had a battery pack for entering the fjords.

Imagine the size of the battery!
Anyway, better get back on topic…. Looks like no third ship for Australia.  Royal is annoyed with the NSW government over the lack of progress on a third terminal.  

[ONECRUISER]

14 minutes ago, geoff2802 said:

I may have read outdated information.  
Can’t imagine the ship could travel far on a fuel cell

Imagine giving it a Jump

[smokeybandit]

1 hour ago, Chiliburn said:

Wasn’t icon supposed to be a hydrogen full cell ?

That would be the only practical fuel unless they had a battery pack for entering the fjords.

No, just LNG.

Fuel cells are a long way off from practicality at a larger scale. Viking has them on some new ships, but will be used in limited manners (like the fjords). MSC has a couple larger ships with H fuel cells, but will only be able to use them in ports.

[Chiliburn]

1 hour ago, geoff2802 said:

Imagine the size of the battery!
Anyway, better get back on topic…. Looks like no third ship for Australia.  Royal is annoyed with the NSW government over the lack of progress on a third terminal.  

I knew that ,NSW government is pretty over stretched.

Thats why I thought Melbourne was a possibility.

 

I was reading an article the other day about Lelepa, it was only third hand but it quoted Royal as saying it will be serviced from Australia and New Zealand ??

 

I will try to find it but it was a bit vague though.

Edited February 18, 2023 by Chiliburn

[Blue Eyed Belfast Belle]

5 hours ago, Saab4444 said:

Have you looked at the rates Royal Is currently requesting for Northern Europe 2023 and 2024? This is much more than any US (Caribbean, Alaska or Northeast) deployment can bring into their pocket. Yes Baltic season 2022 was very poor with the first time a big ship was based in Copenhagen but the market is back to normal now and other cruise lines from the US and Europe fill big and new ships in the Baltic. 

I had been looking for a short cruise from Europe for early Summer 24 with a Chum for her 1st cruise.

 

2 nights on Anthem May 24 was £569 pps for an inside with fees, no grats, no drinks.

 

3 nights on MSC Virtuosa was £449 pps for an inside with fees, and grats and drinks and status match for me.

 

Sorry RCI but you priced yourself out here! 

[Chiliburn]

1 hour ago, Chiliburn said:

I knew that ,NSW government is pretty over stretched.

Thats why I thought Melbourne was a possibility.

 

I was reading an article the other day about Lelepa, it was only third hand but it quoted Royal as saying it will be serviced from Australia and New Zealand ??

 

I will try to find it but it was a bit vague though.

[njkruzer]

Booked a 7 nt on Navigator for July 2024 and got a 2 bdrm gs for less than a spacious Oceanview balcony!  Must be a mistake but I paid my deposit. 

[Saab4444]

5 hours ago, smokeybandit said:

No, just LNG.

Fuel cells are a long way off from practicality at a larger scale. Viking has them on some new ships, but will be used in limited manners (like the fjords). MSC has a couple larger ships with H fuel cells, but will only be able to use them in ports.

Hurtigruten ships can run on battery in the Fjords. Until this is possible gfor more ships LNG is accepted and many of the newer ships are now also equiped to run on external electricity in ports (e.g. Aida and TUI).

[sgmn]

4 hours ago, Blue Eyed Belfast Belle said:

I had been looking for a short cruise from Europe for early Summer 24 with a Chum for her 1st cruise.

 

2 nights on Anthem May 24 was £569 pps for an inside with fees, no grats, no drinks.

 

3 nights on MSC Virtuosa was £449 pps for an inside with fees, and grats and drinks and status match for me.

 

Sorry RCI but you priced yourself out here! 

Agree prices for next year are way more expensive from Southampton than previous years. Norwegian Fjords are over £1000 pp for inside cabin, 7 days. I wonder if it's because of their new promotion, 3rd and 4th person in a cabin for £129. May be pushing up the base fare.  

[Saab4444]

8 hours ago, Ulsteinvik said:

Jewel of the Seas disappeared also from Reykjaviks cruise list on August 2024. Only the 2 calls in May and June remain. So I expect a shorter Northern Europe season for Jewel, last planned cruise could be the 11 night British Isles cruise on 18 July 2024 before heading to the Med.

Then Utopia will do a short Northern Europe season in 2024 from Rotterdam or Southampton with limited port options.