Where have you encountered the worst casino smoke?

[KKB]

I see a lot of threads about Celebrity allowing vaping in casinos on a couple ships even tho they are NS casinos (which I love).

Overall I am rarely bothered by smoke in casinos--most in Vegas have pretty good "smoke eaters"

But there have been 3 ships in the last 4 years where smoke was so intolerable that I just didn't play or wore a mask! 

(I have sailed 29 cruises on 20 different ships)

NCL Getaway (Encore wisely made a smoking casino area separate)

Discovery Princess (strangely have not noticed it on other Princess ships!)

MSC Preziosa (Europe cruise)

Anyone else notice it bad on particular ships?

 

[BklynBoy8]

2 minutes ago, KKB said:

I see a lot of threads about Celebrity allowing vaping in casinos on a couple ships even tho they are NS casinos (which I love).

Overall I am rarely bothered by smoke in casinos--most in Vegas have pretty good "smoke eaters"

But there have been 3 ships in the last 4 years where smoke was so intolerable that I just didn't play or wore a mask! 

(I have sailed 29 cruises on 20 different ships)

NCL Getaway (Encore wisely made a smoking casino area separate)

Discovery Princess (strangely have not noticed it on other Princess ships!)

MSC Preziosa (Europe cruise)

Anyone else notice it bad on particular ships?

 

No Smoking in Casino on Cunard...

2 minutes ago, KKB said:

 

[Flatbush Flyer]

The casinos on Oceania ships are non-smoking (and that includes vaping). In fact, there are only two spots on their ships where smoking/vaping is allowed: one corner of the pool deck and an enclosure in a corner area of the largest bar.

[TheOldBear]

I remember Steve Payne listing some differences between the QM2 and the original Queen Mary.

One was, on QM2 smoking is only permitted in two spaces, on the Queen Mary smoking was forbidden in only two spaces.

[ldubs]

It was pretty bad in the casino on a recent Ruby Princess cruise.   Additionally, it was spilling out into adjacent public areas like the International Cafe.  

[KKB]

1 hour ago, BklynBoy8 said:

 

No Smoking in Casino on Cunard...

 

1 hour ago, Flatbush Flyer said:

The casinos on Oceania ships are non-smoking (and that includes vaping). In fact, there are only two spots on their ships where smoking/vaping is allowed: one corner of the pool deck and an enclosure in a corner area of the largest bar.

 

40 minutes ago, TheOldBear said:

I remember Steve Payne listing some differences between the QM2 and the original Queen Mary.

One was, on QM2 smoking is only permitted in two spaces, on the Queen Mary smoking was forbidden in only two spaces.

I LITTLE higher price point than I pay on my mainstream lines...

I believe Celebrity is the only mainstream lines where the casino is fully NS (except for a couple allowing vaping...I don't suspect that would be a huge issue).

NCL has some newer ships with the smoking casino room...but with the service cuts there the last few months not sure how much longer we will be sailing them.

[KKB]

1 minute ago, ldubs said:

It was pretty bad in the casino on a recent Ruby Princess cruise.   Additionally, it was spilling out into adjacent public areas like the International Cafe.  

Interesting. Really didn't notice it in March--I'm sure it depends to some extent on passengers onboard a particular sailng.

[ldubs]

27 minutes ago, KKB said:

Interesting. Really didn't notice it in March--I'm sure it depends to some extent on passengers onboard a particular sailng.

 

Could be and maybe passenger loading in the casino too.  Sometimes it was heavy in Internt'l cafe and other times I noticed nothing.   

[George C]

I thought Princess was the worst , have not sailed them in about a decade.

[SbbquilterUT]

Royal Caribbean Oasis class - the smoke haze goes out into the wait areas for the dining room.

[Flatbush Flyer]

3 hours ago, KKB said:

 

 

I LITTLE higher price point than I pay on my mainstream lines...

I believe Celebrity is the only mainstream lines where the casino is fully NS (except for a couple allowing vaping...I don't suspect that would be a huge issue).

NCL has some newer ships with the smoking casino room...but with the service cuts there the last few months not sure how much longer we will be sailing them.

Depending on what you want/do beyond the very limited base fare on a mass market ship, you may want to compare actual “bottom lines” in comparisons with Oceania (which includes even air tix or an air credit) or even Azamara. 

[George C]

1 hour ago, SbbquilterUT said:

Royal Caribbean Oasis class - the smoke haze goes out into the wait areas for the dining room.

I will miss the jazz club on oasis class but they recently changed it into a nonsmoking casino area , will sail on harmony in November. 

[KKB]

23 minutes ago, Flatbush Flyer said:

Depending on what you want/do beyond the very limited base fare on a mass market ship, you may want to compare actual “bottom lines” in comparisons with Oceania (which includes even air tix or an air credit) or even Azamara. 

Yeah it’s still a significant price difference, I’ve looked

[BruceMuzz]

I never encounter any Casino Smoke.

I won't sail on a ship that has a casino - and I certainly would never go into an ocean-going casino.

Ship-based Casino odds are for suckers only.

[navybankerteacher]

17 hours ago, BruceMuzz said:

I never encounter any Casino Smoke.

I won't sail on a ship that has a casino - and I certainly would never go into an ocean-going casino.

Ship-based Casino odds are for suckers only.

Of course ALL casinos’ odds are for suckers only — the more you play, the more certain it is that you will ultimately come out behind.  Yes - even the (obviously memory impaired) folks who post on these threads about how they regularly come out ahead.

[Szt]

One of the reasons some people cruise is so they can smoke and gamble in hazy peace. That was my parents' philosophy. 
I have found cruises in Europe or with lots of Europeans tend to have more smokers. It is what it is. Just avoid the smoky areas and everyone can enjoy the way they choose. 

[Aquahound]

The absolute worst casino smoke I ever encountered was on Carnival Liberty.  I'm not a gambler so it shouldn't bother me but, on that ship, the main fore/aft corridor went through the casino, so it was hard to avoid.  It's one of many reasons I haven't cruised Carnival since.  

[DarrenM]

isnt it just ridiculous that anywhere in 2023 allows smoking at all inside any room/buiding etc?

[Aquahound]

On 7/11/2023 at 10:05 AM, KKB said:

 

I believe Celebrity is the only mainstream lines where the casino is fully NS (except for a couple allowing vaping...I don't suspect that would be a huge issue).

 

 

With the exception of maybe a couple older ships, HAL has also banned casino smoking.  

[Hlitner]

The worst we encounted, in recent years, was on the MSC Divina.  That ship's casino (where they allow smoking) has a decent bar on the deck above, that is open to the casino (like a mini atrium).  The bar/lounge is where we enjoyed an excellent rock duo (from Italy) during a two week cruise.  But there was nothing to stop the smoke drifting up from the casino (one deck below) and we found it quite annoying.  We have had other smoke issues on the HAL ships that still allow smoking in the casino.  I have long said that walking through those smoking casinos was kind of like passing through a dirty ashtray.  

 

Hank

[wineoclock]

On 7/11/2023 at 9:24 PM, Flatbush Flyer said:

Depending on what you want/do beyond the very limited base fare on a mass market ship, you may want to compare actual “bottom lines” in comparisons with Oceania (which includes even air tix or an air credit) or even Azamara. 

Does Azamara have casino’s? 

 

Dh likes a flutter on board & we sail celebrity as we like the vibe & non formal dress code.
 

We will probably be looking to move after our next cruise with them if the vaping policy goes fleetwide. Looking at Oceania. Considering MSC Yacht club as well. 

 

 

[cruisemom42]

14 hours ago, Aquahound said:

 

With the exception of maybe a couple older ships, HAL has also banned casino smoking.  

 

Actually HAL's three newest ships (Koningsdam, Nieuw Statendam, Rotterdam) allow smoking in the casino for active players, along with their two oldest ships (Volendam, Zaandam).

 

Smoking is not allowed in any of their four Vista-class or two Signature-class ships. 

 

Strange and inconsistent -- but that's nothing new for HAL!

[PurpleHays]

The NCL Epic had it's casino in one of the main passages on the deck. No way around it if you wanted to walk from one end of the ship to the other, and it was open to other floors. It reeked. I only sailed on it once, never again.

[Turtles06]

On 7/13/2023 at 9:58 AM, cruisemom42 said:

Actually HAL's three newest ships (Koningsdam, Nieuw Statendam, Rotterdam) allow smoking in the casino for active players, along with their two oldest ships (Volendam, Zaandam).

It absolutely amazes me that HAL would build these beautiful new ships and then allow people to smoke in the casinos. Talk about a step backwards. 

[navybankerteacher]

3 hours ago, Turtles06 said:

It absolutely amazes me that HAL would build these beautiful new ships and then allow people to smoke in the casinos. Talk about a step backwards. 

HAL recognizes that a major customer base of theirs is 65 and older - and a significant portion of that age group are hopelessly committed smokers —- who HAL does not want to write off.