Cruise to nowhere from NY

[DDL4056]

Is there any cruise line that just spends a couple of days to nowhere out of NY or NJ?  I’ve done some searching and coming up with no info.

TIA

Diane

[CruiserBruce]

I don't believe "cruises to nowhere" are legal anymore. They need to stop at a foreign port.

[njhorseman]

20 minutes ago, DDL4056 said:

Is there any cruise line that just spends a couple of days to nowhere out of NY or NJ?  I’ve done some searching and coming up with no info.

TIA

Diane

 

17 minutes ago, CruiserBruce said:

I don't believe "cruises to nowhere" are legal anymore. They need to stop at a foreign port.

Cruises to nowhere are still legal under PVSA regulations but they were discontinued by the cruise lines several years ago when DHS ruled that crew would require a different type of US work visa than most held. It would have been too expensive and difficult to meet the new visa requirement.

[ColeThornton]

Just now, njhorseman said:

 

Cruises to nowhere are still legal under PVSA regulations but they were discontinued by the cruise lines several years ago when DHS ruled that crew would require a different type of US work visa than most held. It would have been too expensive and difficult to meet the new visa requirement.

 

 

^^^^^  Correct answer.

[jsn55]

I'd create my own 'cruise to nowhere' ... just book a short cruise to Bermuda or someplace and not get off the ship.

[George C]

too bad they no longer have them, I did several in 1970’s and early 1980’s , lots of singles and drinking , my very first cruise was to nowhere in 1975 .

Edited November 2, 2023 by George C

[sparks1093]

11 minutes ago, George C said:

too bad they no longer have them, I did several in 1970’s and early 1980’s , lots of singles and drinking , my very first cruise was to nowhere in 1975 .

Our intro to cruising was on a CTN out of Boston. 

[1025cruise]

While nice, unfortunately the CTN is no more due to the needs of a different type of visa for the crew. This was due to a casino boat in Florida challenging the need for these visas versus using the same visas the cruise ships use. 

[navybankerteacher]

3 hours ago, jsn55 said:

I'd create my own 'cruise to nowhere' ... just book a short cruise to Bermuda or someplace and not get off the ship.

Good idea - although I would greatly prefer to cruise to Nassau and not get off the ship - much easier, as there would be zero temptation to get off.

[lenquixote66]

You can always do a Gambling cruise from Freeport ,NY which is about 5 hours.You do not have to gamble .Or a cruise around Manhattan from Chelsea Piers or a cruise from Marlboro,NY which is a nice scenic cruise.

[DDL4056]

Looking for a weekend away with the whole family.  Doesn’t sound like it is doable.

[Hlitner]

1 hour ago, DDL4056 said:

Looking for a weekend away with the whole family.  Doesn’t sound like it is doable.

Looking at 2024, there are plenty of 4 and 5 night cruises out of NYC or Bayonne.  The Carnival Venezia does a series of 4 night that include one day in Kings Wharf, Bermuda.  Kings Wharf has a small beach (within waking distance) as well as some shops, cafe, and eating venues.  If one prefers, they could just use that docked day as a faux sea day and stay on the ship.  Just keep in mind that such a short cruise during the summer school holiday will likely attract a lot of families as well as a party crowd.  It sure would not be my cruise of choice :).

 

Hank

[JRG]

8 hours ago, njhorseman said:

Cruises to nowhere are still legal under PVSA regulations but they were discontinued by the cruise lines several years ago when DHS ruled that crew would require a different type of US work visa than most held. It would have been too expensive and difficult to meet the new visa requirement.

 

That's an interesting tidbit.   and I believe you.

 

How do they define "ruled" and do they open it up to 'public comment' so that it can be revisited for time and place as needed,  or is fixed forever?

 

 

 

Edited November 3, 2023 by JRG

[njhorseman]

Just now, JRG said:

 

That's an interesting tidbit.   and I believe you.

 

How do they define rule and do they open it up to 'public comment' so that it can be revisited for time and place as needed,  or is fixed forever?

 

 

 

As stated by @1025cruise above, it arose from a court ruling involving a casino boat in Florida. DHS really had no choice in the matter...the courts mandated it.

[JRG]

4 minutes ago, njhorseman said:

As stated by @1025cruise above, it arose from a court ruling involving a casino boat in Florida. DHS really had no choice in the matter...the courts mandated it.

 

Ok thanks, for clarifying.  I get that now.   I was thinking of a different ruling that involved PVSA.

 

My personal thoughts on the Cruise to Nowhere is that they fit a need for a certain type of cruiser,  not me,   those that really just want to get on a ship and taste the fun of it all and then get on back home.

 

Cruises to Nowhere have become a kind of mariner-urban myth, I suppose. 

Edited November 3, 2023 by JRG

[ceeceeDee]

Absolutely no help to you, but it's a pity you're not in Australia. We have a plethora of 'sampler' cruises of around 3 days' duration. Definitely not my cup of tea, we prefer a minimum of 7 days and preferably longer.🤗

[navybankerteacher]

Not from New York, but there are dozens of three night cruises from Florida ports to ports in the Bahamas - which is about as nowhere as you can get while still going somewhere.

[ontheweb]

11 hours ago, JRG said:

 

Ok thanks, for clarifying.  I get that now.   I was thinking of a different ruling that involved PVSA.

 

My personal thoughts on the Cruise to Nowhere is that they fit a need for a certain type of cruiser,  not me,   those that really just want to get on a ship and taste the fun of it all and then get on back home.

 

Cruises to Nowhere have become a kind of mariner-urban myth, I suppose. 

There was one back in the day that they still existed that we almost, or at least thought about,. It wasn't going to be a party or drinking cruise for us, but to listen to John Legend.