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  • njkate changed the title to Wow! Jeez! Stabbing on Encore

Crazy stuff can happen anywhere. Hopefully everyone is OK at the end of the day. I wonder if the woman passenger will get a free cruise.

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It makes me wonder, with all the new ships out there, how well are all the cruise lines vetting new crew members? On our last cruise, we had a cabin steward who was just hired and wanted out after several weeks aboard a ship.

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people forget that cruise ships are the size of a small city/large town.  crime can happen anywhere, just like medical issues, freak accidents, etc.  if it can happen on land, it can happen at sea.

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I was just saying to a cruise friend that being a crew member takes a very special type of person.  Over the years, I  have seen so many crew members not surviving the first few weeks of a contract.

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1 hour ago, JIMESOPUS said:

It makes me wonder, with all the new ships out there, how well are all the cruise lines vetting new crew members? On our last cruise, we had a cabin steward who was just hired and wanted out after several weeks aboard a ship.

Just the same as they have in the past, essentially not at all.  Probably 25-30% of new hires either don't complete their first contract, or never come back after the first contract.  No way to "vett" somebody as to whether they are compatible with shipboard life.

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Cruise ship workers are no different than the rest of the population including us here on CC.  They are not immune from criminal behavior like everyone else.  I live in Miami and cruise ship workers are always in the news for something happening on board.  I still would say they are better than the general population and would feel safer with them then the general population.  There was a cruise ship worker (not NCL) recently that hid in the cabins of women when they showered.  He hid under the bed.  Pretty scary stuff. But these kind of perverts sadly are everywhere including police, politicians, teachers, and cruise ship workers. etc.

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I just hope my mother doesn't see this article, since I'll be on the Encore in December.

 

But yeah, anything can happen anywhere, no matter how safe a place seems. 

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2 hours ago, david_sobe said:

Cruise ship workers are no different than the rest of the population including us here on CC.  They are not immune from criminal behavior like everyone else.  I live in Miami and cruise ship workers are always in the news for something happening on board.  I still would say they are better than the general population and would feel safer with them then the general population.  There was a cruise ship worker (not NCL) recently that hid in the cabins of women when they showered.  He hid under the bed.  Pretty scary stuff. But these kind of perverts sadly are everywhere including police, politicians, teachers, and cruise ship workers. etc.

 

Yes, better THAN the general population IMHO as well.  I'm not sure if I could do that job and be away from my family for so long.

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Just now, PartyPlannerLady said:

 

Yes, better THAN the general population IMHO as well.  I'm not sure if I could do that job and be away from my family for so long.

Its tough work.  I read an article once that said a disproportionate amount of cruise line suicides (jumping from the ship) are photographers.  There is lots of pressure on them to sell photos and take as many photos as possible.  It just put a seed in my head to never be rude to a photographer no matter how pushy they may seem.  Its long hours, away from home, and very isolated living in small quarters.  Its a little like the military where some small minority very desperate people join just to survive.

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7 hours ago, Laszlo said:

I wonder if the woman passenger will get a free cruise.

He grabbed a pair of scissors and stabbed the woman multiple times in the arm, hand and face.”


She’s going to get a whole lot more than a free cruise.

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5 hours ago, www3traveler said:

Over the years, I  have seen so many crew members not surviving the first few weeks of a contract.

What happens when they don't survive the first few weeks of a contract?

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40 minutes ago, kay1864 said:

He grabbed a pair of scissors and stabbed the woman multiple times in the arm, hand and face.”


She’s going to get a whole lot more than a free cruise.

Horrific, and I feel terrible for that passenger and her family/friends who were likely traveling with her as well.

 

Yes, depending upon the extent of her injuries (which sound bad), this will end in serious litigation, no doubt.

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1 minute ago, chengkp75 said:

They pay their own way home.

Do they need to wait for the next turn-around port to get off, or they can get off at any upcoming port? 

 

Before getting to the port where they can get off, are they then charged the room & board for those days they don't work?  If it happens to be a long cruise, that could be many days from the time they said they quit.

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23 minutes ago, Middleager said:

Do they need to wait for the next turn-around port to get off, or they can get off at any upcoming port? 

 

Before getting to the port where they can get off, are they then charged the room & board for those days they don't work?  If it happens to be a long cruise, that could be many days from the time they said they quit.

They can get off at any port they want to, subject to local immigration, though with crew that's normally not a problem.  Some places, like the US, a crew member getting off the ship (whether quit or end of contract) has to be escorted from the ship to the airport by a bonded ship's agent.  Yes, if they are not working while onboard, they get charged room and board.  So, you can "quit" but keep working to keep getting paid until you get to port.

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46 minutes ago, chengkp75 said:

They pay their own way home.

Thank You Chief   As you well know, working onboard any ship not just a cruise ship is NOT easy especially if you are young and this is your first time away from home.

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Me too. Don't use the link!

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Which means for those who didn't get one, a good idea is to shut computer, restart, and do full virus scan before reconnecting to the inter web.  

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3 hours ago, MohrPfun said:

Horrific, and I feel terrible for that passenger and her family/friends who were likely traveling with her as well.

 

Yes, depending upon the extent of her injuries (which sound bad), this will end in serious litigation, no doubt.

Why does there have to be “serious litigation “

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