Why do you think it is ok to let your children run down hallways?

[bogeydi]

Luckily, most of our cruises had well-behaved kids. But a couple of times on one cruise I saw an adult running up and down the hall knocking on doors and then running away! Pretty sure alcohol had something to do with that one.

[jaxw17]

Maybe adults only and family only cruises is the answer.

 

Yes it is and I wish NCl would do adult only

[jaxw17]

Get back to us after another 6 or 8 cruises.

 

That is really rude

[rbrugler]

Maybe adults only and family only cruises is the answer.

On last week's Getaway a woman fell when two children were running around the tables. One of the staff said "at least nothing bad happened." I responded. " something bad did happen!" I use a cane and I was afraid I would be next.

Do you have kids? There is a reason most preschools start at 3, kids under 3 really do need one on one attention. At one point I had 3 under 2, and it was tough!

 

 

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[clskinsfan]

I dont blame the kids. They ARE kids after all. I blame the parents of those kids. The parents allow this stuff to happen. And in all honesty the running in the halls is the least of my concerns on a cruise. It's the kids hogging all of the "adult only" hot tubs and pools that drive me crazy. I mean the signs clearly state adult only and their parents ignore them. It is so annoying.

[Sissaaaaaa]

OMG! The crawling on the floor during dinner, or wandering around the table, etc. THAT is my biggest pet peeve!! I always taught my son that if we can see his bottom during dinner, that means we can spank it. He needed to sit on his butt during meals so that we couldn't see it.

 

Us too, and my parents did that with my brother and I. We knew better than to dare get up from the table and pull that nonsense!

[CRZR58]

How things have changed!

 

When I was growing every adult took the "It takes a village to raise a child" approach. They felt it was their responsibility, no duty, to correct any child they came across for what ever they thought needed to be 'corrected'. My parents always asked us 'What did you do' and apologized to the adult who 'corrected' us for our behavior.

 

Nowadays, other adults aren't allowed to correct children's behavior. Heck, a lot of parents don't even correct their own kids let alone anyone else's. If I even speak sharply to a misbehaving child, I know I'm going to get the wrath of their parents as well as the eye roll from my wife, who is a much nicer person than I am. She prefers to complain about other people's kids in private.

 

It's not about hating kids. It's about correct bad behaviors. If their parents correct them... that's great. If not, and they are bothering me or doing something dangerous, then I'm going to correct them myself even knowing the consequences.

[Baatman]

I don't think the pool deck is an appropriate place to run around...just sayin'

 

I agree...could be dangerous - wet and slippery. Maybe the poster said that tongue in cheek.

[kathiewe]

As the mom of a 9 year old, I can understand the frustration. We just started cruising because we felt our DS was too young until last year. Up until then we went on 1 camping and 1 Disney vacation a year. They were great places to let him run and jump and play like young kids do. That said we had rules -- no siting on the rope lines/chains, no running, watch where you are going, say "I am sorry" if something happens or "excuse me" if someone is in your path.

 

The problem was/is not all parents do so we were constantly telling our DS that we weren't worried about what other kids did, just ours. Worse yet was when we would travel we other families who didn't have the same standards as we do.

 

Last month we were on the Getaway when there were about 1,000 kids and 3,000 adult passengers on board. Honestly, we didn't see misbehaving kids. Yes, some of them were playing on the pool deck, where I am sorry but that is to be expected, but inside they were good. We were with two 60 somethings and two 30 somethings and even they said that while there were clearly a lot of kids, they weren't doing anything but enjoying their vacations in ways that kids do. We felt so comfortable with it that we are taking my inlaws, who expect kids to be on good behavior, on the Getaway for Spring Break next year.

 

I understand that pet peeves can ruin your vacation, but if this is something you are sensitive too, then maybe NCL, RC, Carnival, Disney are not the best lines for you. While I cannot imagine taking our son on Celebrity, Princess, or HA because they are geared to adults, I am not sure why if kids are a problem for you, you would look to Norwegian or the like. Someone mentioned they should have adults cruises and family cruises and they do -- you just need to make sure to go on a line tailored to your needs.

 

NCL and the like are tailored to and cater to families. Kids clubs, water slides, family pools and jacuzzis, family shows and games, rock climbing walls, mini golf courses, and water splash parks are designed with kids in mind. In fact, we originally were booked on RC's Jewel of the Seas until my DH and DS started looking at other ships and DS selected the Getaway. While that ship had some toys, the Getaway is a kid's playground and DS could not have been happier. He absolutely LOVED it. So much so he begged us to switch from the Dawn to the Getaway next year, which (after DH saw the size of her aft balcony) we did.

 

Ok, off my soap box. Oh but one more thing, if you catch my DS misbehaving, please say something to him. We appreciate when others notice things because it reinforces the lessons we are teaching. Oh and I read the title of this thread to my DS and he said that it was wrong to run in hallways and other indoor places. Great kid!

[jpcdds6]

I'm with y'all. Small children don't run on their toes, they stomp flat footed making a lot of noise and vibration in the cabins. At about 1:00 AM I was standing outside my cabin on Carnival once speaking with a security guard who had come to bust up a group of teens who were hanging out on the stairs making a lot of noise when a toddler came squealing and stomping down the hallways. His parents were chasing and teasing him and they thought it was funny. They were so wrapped up in themselves they didn't care about the peace of others. The security guard stooped down and cradled the child as he came around the corner and then the mother followed. I said,

 

"Ma'am it's late could you please quiet your child?" To which she replied, "He's just a child!" When I told her that was no exuse she walked up to my face and yelled "F... you!" So I asked where was the trailer park she lived in. Dad came around the corner and heard me say that so he wanted to fight me. Then the security guard cradled him and escorted them to their cabin.[/quote. Gotta love late night on Carnival!

[edenrayne]

Do you have kids? There is a reason most preschools start at 3, kids under 3 really do need one on one attention. At one point I had 3 under 2, and it was tough!

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I most certainly do! I have 3 and 5 grand children. Your opinion is your opinion, but the consensus here seems to be that ill behaved kids are not enjoyable, wherever you are. Kids are not born "unruly", it is allowed to happen. Just judging from my neck of the woods, parents these days have no time for their kids. So the one on one time you mention is not happening.

[Barb Nahoumi]

I don't think the pool deck is an appropriate place to run around...just sayin'

 

That's right, they could bump into someone be it in the corridors or pool deck.

[Jake70]

At the risk of being accused for having horrible people/parent skills, I still have to ask: At which point in time did we start considering kids who run down a corridor to be ill-mannered? Seriously? They are kids....Indeed, small kids don't run on their toes, no, they stomp, as somebody correctly noted. So what?! There are many cruiselines that cater to a different group of pax than NCL does. Choose Azamara, Princess, Crystal, Silversea,or one of the many upscale cruiselines that do not neccessarily cater to families with kids (some might disagree here...:-)).

PS: Manners are important, yes - I totally agree on that. But I do not consider running down a corridor, playing in a corridor, or not paying attention to absolutely everybody who walks down the corridor to be a sign of bad manners....

[mjkacmom]

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I most certainly do! I have 3 and 5 grand children. Your opinion is your opinion, but the consensus here seems to be that ill behaved kids are not enjoyable, wherever you are. Kids are not born "unruly", it is allowed to happen. Just judging from my neck of the woods, parents these days have no time for their kids. So the one on one time you mention is not happening.

I do think they are born unruly, and us parents teach them proper behavior. When my twins were toddlers I got them leashes so I could teach them how to walk (not run) down the sidewalk, and not in the street or neighbor's lawns. Children that age haven't developed fear, and self preservation, so we use tools to keep them safe from harm (cribs, strollers, play yards, gates on stairs...) until they can be taught, which takes time. I don't know where you live, but here, parents definitely have time for their kids, I'd say most are overparented, if anything.

[perditax]

At the risk of being accused for having horrible people/parent skills, I still have to ask: At which point in time did we start considering kids who run down a corridor to be ill-mannered? Seriously? They are kids....Indeed, small kids don't run on their toes, no, they stomp, as somebody correctly noted. So what?! There are many cruiselines that cater to a different group of pax than NCL does. Choose Azamara, Princess, Crystal, Silversea,or one of the many upscale cruiselines that do not neccessarily cater to families with kids (some might disagree here...:-)).

PS: Manners are important, yes - I totally agree on that. But I do not consider running down a corridor, playing in a corridor, or not paying attention to absolutely everybody who walks down the corridor to be a sign of bad manners....

 

It's interesting that you use the word "corridor" each time instead of "hallway". The former word de-emphasizes the fact that people might be trying to sleep on the other side of those doors.

 

The *hallway* runs past people's homes for the week.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree on whether kids should be running, playing, and not looking where they're going in cruise ship hallways, but at least we have some parents admitting they're fine with it. Usually no one speaks up like that in these threads, or if they do it's to tell us that, while obviously we should sail on a different line since we are grouchy kid-haters, *their* kids are angels.

[triptolemus]

They are kids....

 

I'll say it again... I will ankle-check your hallway-running rambunctious snowflake if necessary. I may not get out of the way in time for Little Johnny to run past me. Once is a forgivable outburst. But if by day 3 the little brats are still pounding up and down the hallways, then it seems to me they deserve a lesson in gravitational theory and kinetic energy. Better my toe to his ankle instead of his face to a housekeeping cart.

 

Happy Cruising!

[JeannieNY]

Maybe it's because these parents think the ship is a "safe" place, and as long as they are in a group they are fine.. they figure if they are doing something unacceptable, there will be a staff member to break it up...If their kids had to be with them ALL the time, then they will complain and the vacay will be a drag! That's my opinion of the whole dilemma.. the parents really don't know what their kids are up to...and aren't concerned. As long as they "check in" from time to time , then they assume they are just being kids and having a blast! That's why I pray I chose a cruise with the least chance of having tons of kids onboard!!!

[Barb Nahoumi]

When I was little and went out with my parents they always kept me beside them, holding my hand when we walked down halls, crossed streets etc. I remember teachers telling us not to run or talk in the halls at school. They said, "Use your indoor voice."

 

We taught our kids to be respectful of others, please and thank you, and I think that we raised them to be nice people. Although we didn't take them on cruises----we came to it later in life, we did take them on plenty of vacations. Our grand kids are well behaved, and we can take them anywhere.

 

Yes, we do sometimes cringe when we see kids running in halls on ships, only because we're afraid that they could bump into someone, knocking them over. The same when they run around in restaurants.

 

We tend to book cruises when school is still in session or the longer trips which most families don't do. No cruise is totally child-free. There will always be babies, toddlers, or home schooled kids who have no school schedules.

[pcakes122]

Maybe it's because these parents think the ship is a "safe" place

This reminded me of my last "kid running" experience. I was in an aft balcony on the Breakaway in December and I heard periodic running past my door at about 10 pm. I opened the door and saw a little boy about 8 years old running down one side hallway, across the aft cabin corridor and then up the opposite hallway -- and then back in reverse. I stopped him and asked him "where are your parents?" and he replied "at dinner." I said "where is your cabin?" and he pointed up one of the side hallways.

 

I told him you need to get back to your cabin right now because I am calling security - and I did. Seriously, did his parents really think it was ok to leave an 8 year old alone in their cabin? Was he left with a 'grandma' or other adult who fell asleep and didn't realize he snuck out? Either way, I wasn't going to be responsible for having seen him and not reporting it if heaven forbid something had happened to him.

 

I think sometimes parents think their cruise vacation is a vacation from parenting. :rolleyes:

[Crazy planning mom]

I may get flamed for this, especially since I can't imagine that the parents who allow this don't have a clue at how intrusive and annoying it is. But, just in case parents really have no idea, I am putting this out there. I am clueless as to why any parent thinks it is ever okay to let their children run up and down the hallways on a cruise ship. I know they are kids, and we should let them be kids...But, isn't it more important we teach them to be humans first? It is just not appropriate or considerate at any time of day to be running down a hallway outside of other people's cabins. Do you not realize how loud and annoying the constant thumping of feet running past someone's cabin door must be. And, it doesn't matter what time of day either. If someone is trying to relax in their cabin in the middle of the day or early evening, that is their right, and there is absolutely no reason for anyone to be running around in the hallways ever.

I am going to go against the grain here. My DS is a mostly polite nice teenager. However, when he was a toddler he was very hyperactive. Of course, I disciplined him but toddlers can be wild. Of course, We waited to take him on his first cruise until he was 6. By then, he had calmed down and sat nicely through dinner. However, We couldn't wait to visit Grandma and Grandpa in Florida until he was 6. We did get some nasty looks. Anyway, My DS who was 3 and I were on a flight from FL to JFK. The older lady who sat in our row complimented me on his behavior. Then when we landed at JFK we were stuck waiting for a gate to pull up to for an hour and he lost it.

So, anyhow I think people need to be more tolerant of children. That doesnt mean parents don't need to discipline their kids. They do but older folks and Those who are child free need to be more accepting. I would advise traveling when school is in session and taking longer cruises if you wish to avoid them. There are some lines that tend to attract less families.

[DMH15]

At the risk of being accused for having horrible people/parent skills, I still have to ask: At which point in time did we start considering kids who run down a corridor to be ill-mannered? Seriously? They are kids....Indeed, small kids don't run on their toes, no, they stomp, as somebody correctly noted. So what?! There are many cruiselines that cater to a different group of pax than NCL does. Choose Azamara, Princess, Crystal, Silversea,or one of the many upscale cruiselines that do not neccessarily cater to families with kids (some might disagree here...:-)).

PS: Manners are important, yes - I totally agree on that. But I do not consider running down a corridor, playing in a corridor, or not paying attention to absolutely everybody who walks down the corridor to be a sign of bad manners....

 

 

As someone who lives in a high rise be it child or adult for anyone to make noise in the hall, be it yelling or running or stomping it is ill-mannered as noise travels.

 

Time of day does not matter. The guy across the hall works nights and sleeps days.

 

Cruise ship hallways outside staterooms as well as hotel corridors should not be a free for all. So, sorry... we disagree.

 

Let your kid run down a hall with shops or eateries. Not by where people reside.

 

 

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[Crazy planning mom]

It's interesting that you use the word "corridor" each time instead of "hallway". The former word de-emphasizes the fact that people might be trying to sleep on the other side of those doors.

 

The *hallway* runs past people's homes for the week.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree on whether kids should be running, playing, and not looking where they're going in cruise ship hallways, but at least we have some parents admitting they're fine with it. Usually no one speaks up like that in these threads, or if they do it's to tell us that, while obviously we should sail on a different line since we are grouchy kid-haters, *their* kids are angels.[/quote

Sorry you wouldn't visit a McDonalds or an Applebees and expect it to be child free and quiet. So, if you expect to avoid hordes of children, don't sail the Breakaway during Spring Break or Summer.

[AliceIn]

I'll say it again... I will ankle-check your hallway-running rambunctious snowflake if necessary. I may not get out of the way in time for Little Johnny to run past me. Once is a forgivable outburst. But if by day 3 the little brats are still pounding up and down the hallways, then it seems to me they deserve a lesson in gravitational theory and kinetic energy. Better my toe to his ankle instead of his face to a housekeeping cart.

 

Happy Cruising!

 

Wow - you'd do something that would potentially hurt a small child? If I saw you doing that to somebody else's kid, I'd definitely report that to an officer on board. If I saw you doing that in public onshore, I'd call the cops on you.

 

It's one thing to say something to a parent - or even ask the child to be careful. Resorting to a physical response is uncalled for in ANY situation.

[clskinsfan]

Wow - you'd do something that would potentially hurt a small child? If I saw you doing that to somebody else's kid, I'd definitely report that to an officer on board. If I saw you doing that in public onshore, I'd call the cops on you.

 

It's one thing to say something to a parent - or even ask the child to be careful. Resorting to a physical response is uncalled for in ANY situation.

 

If he did it to my kid. My kid wouldnt be the only one laying on the floor. I can guarantee you that.

[Two Wheels Only]

Better my toe to his ankle instead of his face to a housekeeping cart.

That is horrible!!! There is no excuse for that way of thinking!!!

 

I'd never risk scuffing a perfectly good shoe ;p...find a cart, they're always around.