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Nieuw Statendam Signature Suite bathtubs gone!!

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My TA was just advised this morning the new ship does not have bathtubs in this room category and offered us an upsell to a Neptune for $2000

We booked our 7 day Mar. 3, 2019 voyage 9 months ago and are just notified now!!

Wife is not a happy camper

I muse on whether the KDam will have the tubs removed during this drydock!!??

Bob

 

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I have purchased a Neptune Suite and was sent an "Important Notice" yesterday that states "because new ships sometimes have design changes from their original specifications, we want to advise you that the suite you booked does not have a bathtub as initially indicated on the deck plan. Instead, your bathroom features a spacious walk in shower."

 

My booking was a guarantee although probably an SC I was told(it was a casino deal).  I certainly had hoped for a tub.  Do ANY of the Neptunes have the whirlpool tub advertised? When I pull up the Nieuw Statendam on their website today the SCs indicate a tub as do the SBs. I'm confused.

 

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They need to update their deck plans.   Tub/Shower combos are the reason we book a Signature Suite.

 

Thanks so much for the heads up.  I'll be steering clear of the Nieuw Statendam.

 

 

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WOW!  No tub in the Signature nor the Neptune?

 

bobpell - I don't blame your wife for not being a happy camper.  I'd be unhappy as well.

 

This seems strange to me consering how much space is in these two categories?

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Probably safety, mobility and water conservation issues went into this decision. 

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I'm short and I've had a leg injury that was not diagnosed for a long time. Stepping into a shower/tub combo is difficult and has the potential for falls, especially when stepping out with wet feet. HAL probably assessed the safety of the setups and decided that a shower alone was safer for their passengers. Count me as one who would be happy with the change. 

 

Edit: OlsSalt beat me to it. 

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6 minutes ago, OlsSalt said:

Probably safety, mobility and water conservation issues went into this decision. 

We've been in some really deep tubs over the years.   I remember on of our dining companions freaking out over the tubs on the Legend of the Seas.  The worst was the Enchantment with those grab bars actually on the tub edges.  Thought they would help, but they didn't.  Tried a bathroom chair on the Radiance of the Seas, and that ended up being harder than just stepping into the tub. 

 

I want to see some photos of the new showers.

 

I also wonder if they did a survey w/ the stewards to determine the percentage of passengers that only used the shower.

 

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Recognizing it is not the same thing, but ships still have the hot tubs and thermal spa for relaxing deep soak options. 

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I wonder if "walk in" shower is a "roll in" shower?  With the age of HAL guests, it may make sense to have showers that are accessible for all rather than tubs that older adults may have problems with entering/exiiting.   Or, they could install a few of those "walk in" jetted tubs that are advertised on TV 😉

 

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Given the choice, I'd always take a shower over a tub, and I suspect that applies to the majority of passengers these days.

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1 hour ago, Fouremco said:

Given the choice, I'd always take a shower over a tub, and I suspect that applies to the majority of passengers these days.

 

Those of us in drought-plagued Southern California have now become quite used  to sponge baths most of the time - or what got referred to as "ship board showers" by those on smaller water craft. The idea of filling an entire tub with water, using it once and then letting it drain away is the stuff of both nightmares and fantasy for a lot of us.   No even saving it in buckets for the gardens!?!  :classic_wacko:

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I remember when the Kdam first started we booked a Signature Suite and discovered the tub was not a Jacuzzi and only had a pull up wand.

The glass doored  shower was at the end of the V shaped tub and was so narrow you did not dare drop your face cloth!!

Maybe the marine Architect eliminated both problems with this large shower...just saying??

I continue to muse

Bob

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This is very interesting, thanks for the info!   We were on our first HAL cruise a few months ago, in a Signature Suite on the Zuiderdam.  As a short person, and especially when I'm aboard a moving ship, I much prefer a real stall shower to a shower/tub combo, but that little stand up shower was pretty narrow (and the shower curtain, well, it's certainly been written about on here before :classic_biggrin:).   It will be interesting to see if they are using the space now for a genuine stall shower with a glass door...

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We did two side-by-sides last May.  A Neptune on the Nieuw Amsterdam and a Vista on the Emerald Princess.  DH really liked the glass shower door on the Emerald Princess. 

 

Never seen a shower curtain in either a tub or stall that didn't flood our bathroom.  Sometimes, the pool towels are used to mop the mess in the bathroom.

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While I understand the safety issues for many in getting in and out of a tub for the shower, the challenge of shower stall only is . . . Where to shave one's legs?

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4 minutes ago, knittinggirl said:

Never seen a shower curtain in either a tub or stall that didn't flood our bathroom.

Keep the bottom of the curtain inside the tub when you shower! 

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27 minutes ago, Walfam said:

While I understand the safety issues for many in getting in and out of a tub for the shower, the challenge of shower stall only is . . . Where to shave one's legs?

There is usually a small bar in one corner of the shower enclosure on which to place your foot when shaving your legs.

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16 minutes ago, Fouremco said:

There is usually a small bar in one corner of the shower enclosure on which to place your foot when shaving your legs.

 

Can you use your beverage package there, too?

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49 minutes ago, catl331 said:

Keep the bottom of the curtain inside the tub when you shower! 

Try that, but the curtain always migrates out.

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I think people lost track of the point of this thread.  It was not whether one prefers showers or baths.  My goodness who cares!

 

Fact is HAL sold these Signature Suites with perhaps some folks wanting them because they had a tub.  Thanks to the OP for 

posting this.

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18 minutes ago, bEwAbG said:

 

Can you use your beverage package there, too?

No, but you can wet your whistle inside and out at the same time. :classic_cool:

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4 hours ago, slidergirl said:

I wonder if "walk in" shower is a "roll in" shower?  With the age of HAL guests, it may make sense to have showers that are accessible for all rather than tubs that older adults may have problems with entering/exiiting.   Or, they could install a few of those "walk in" jetted tubs that are advertised on TV 😉

 

 

The walk in showers that we have had on HAL ships are not roll in showers.  The roll in showers are -- so far -- only in handicapped cabins.

 

The walk in showers do have a small lip on them -- about 1 - 2 inches high.

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2 hours ago, Krazy Kruizers said:

 

The walk in showers that we have had on HAL ships are not roll in showers.  The roll in showers are -- so far -- only in handicapped cabins.

 

The walk in showers do have a small lip on them -- about 1 - 2 inches high.

 

thanks Krazy!  I was curious if the new designs were roll-ins.   Sometimes, walk in means you walk right in - no lip.

 

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We loved the new walk-in shower on the Volendam.  Huge improvement over using the shower in the bathtub.   It has a footprint the size of the bathtub and is well outfitted. Excellent tempered glass door.  The rain-shower shower head doesn't work too well in this application, however, as it doesn't throw the water far enough out from the wall at the end, so you end up having to stand quite close.  Nevertheless, a big plus.

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Do I understand the OP's post correctly?  Did they wait until the last minute or at least after final payment to tell about the showers only in the suites?

 

Surely they knew about much sooner.

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I wonder if this also applies to Family Oceanview cabins.  My TA booked me in one rather than a regular cabin so I would get a tub.

 

Roy

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On our Rotterdam Voyage of the Vikings cruise in 2016, one of the ladies in the yarn group said they had to book an Inside because it was the only room w/ a shower.

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Knittinggirl we were told about the shower in the Signature Suite one week after final payment

We chose the cabin months ago after looking at the latest Cruise Atlas showing the deck plans for the Nieuw Statendam.

After the call 2 days ago from our TA about the cabin having a shower only,  I went back to the Atlas and perused the page of deck plans ponderously. There was no reference to ...Shower Only...

I would like to hear from suite sailors coming off the Kdam after her drydock to find out if HAL changed the bathroom to shower only!!??

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On 12/6/2018 at 12:07 PM, OlsSalt said:

 

Those of us in drought-plagued Southern California have now become quite used  to sponge baths most of the time - or what got referred to as "ship board showers" by those on smaller water craft. The idea of filling an entire tub with water, using it once and then letting it drain away is the stuff of both nightmares and fantasy for a lot of us.   No even saving it in buckets for the gardens!?!  :classic_wacko:

We recently took out a tub and replaced it with a large shower. The contractor indicated it is common now. Lots of the new houses in the 2000-3000sf range no longer have them.

 

We replaced the large shallow soaker tub in our master with a small Japanese tub. It holds 70 gallons but I only fill it half way, which because of the seat, is less than half of the water. And because we wash first, there is no soap in the soak water, so our plants are happy.

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2 hours ago, bobpell said:

Knittinggirl we were told about the shower in the Signature Suite one week after final payment

We chose the cabin months ago after looking at the latest Cruise Atlas showing the deck plans for the Nieuw Statendam.

After the call 2 days ago from our TA about the cabin having a shower only,  I went back to the Atlas and perused the page of deck plans ponderously. There was no reference to ...Shower Only...

I would like to hear from suite sailors coming off the Kdam after her drydock to find out if HAL changed the bathroom to shower only!!??

I suspect the programmers may be using the same deck plans for both ships.

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Really enjoyed the walk-in shower in K-dam verandah cabin! So much safer than stepping into a tub-shower esp. when seas were choppy!

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2 hours ago, bobpell said:

Knittinggirl we were told about the shower in the Signature Suite one week after final payment

We chose the cabin months ago after looking at the latest Cruise Atlas showing the deck plans for the Nieuw Statendam.

After the call 2 days ago from our TA about the cabin having a shower only,  I went back to the Atlas and perused the page of deck plans ponderously. There was no reference to ...Shower Only...

I would like to hear from suite sailors coming off the Kdam after her drydock to find out if HAL changed the bathroom to shower only!!??

 

 

I wouldn't be a happy camper if t booked a cabin to have a tub and found AFTER final payment that there wasn't one.  It's.a room amenity that is listed and not provided.  

 

HAL should get those deck plans fixed ASAP.  

 

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Good thing this will be only a seven day cruise ...with only a shower and no tub. 

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On 12/6/2018 at 6:32 PM, SilvertoGold said:

We loved the new walk-in shower on the Volendam.  Huge improvement over using the shower in the bathtub.   It has a footprint the size of the bathtub and is well outfitted. Excellent tempered glass door.  The rain-shower shower head doesn't work too well in this application, however, as it doesn't throw the water far enough out from the wall at the end, so you end up having to stand quite close.  Nevertheless, a big plus.

would you mind saying  what  cabin category you are discussing? Balcony? Vista? Neptune?  

 I have been avoiding this ship because  I assumed there were no cabins  larger than balcony without the tub/shower combination......these old hips of mine  no longer  allow for that experience!

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HAL Executive Housekeeper on the NS has said that the only Suites that have tubs are Neptune SA on the Schubert deck. I hope this helps someone in the future as I have gotten a great deal of help from CC posters including disclosing this change of the Signature Suites..   Spread the word if ya want a tub!  

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10 minutes ago, SetAnOpenCourse said:

I wish there was such a thing as “GTY With tub” bookings!

or "GTY With  large stand alone shower" bookings!

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I used to be a tub gal until my DH, a long time ago pointed out the problem in graphic fashion: "You put both feet in, then you sit down, and THEN you wash your face?" ;-o

 

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7 hours ago, Nymich said:

HAL Executive Housekeeper on the NS has said that the only Suites that have tubs are Neptune SA on the Schubert deck. I hope this helps someone in the future as I have gotten a great deal of help from CC posters including disclosing this change of the Signature Suites..   Spread the word if ya want a tub!  

 

Thanks kindly 🙂 

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