DaveOKC Posted December 15, 2019 #1 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I am thinking of combining a 7 day Mexico cruise (from/to San Diego) followed by a Pacific Coastal cruise from San Diego to Vancouver. Same ship. Is this route possible or do I run into some US restriction? Since I basically am starting in the US and ending in Canada, I think that this would work, but want to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted December 15, 2019 #2 Share Posted December 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, DaveOKC said: Since I basically am starting in the US and ending in Canada, I think that this would work, but want to be sure. I'm reading it the same way you are. There is no PVSA consideration as you are starting in the US and ending in another country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoo here Posted December 15, 2019 #3 Share Posted December 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, DaveOKC said: I am thinking of combining a 7 day Mexico cruise (from/to San Diego) followed by a Pacific Coastal cruise from San Diego to Vancouver. Same ship. Is this route possible or do I run into some US restriction? Since I basically am starting in the US and ending in Canada, I think that this would work, but want to be sure. Yes, it's legal under the PVSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted December 15, 2019 #4 Share Posted December 15, 2019 What ship and date? Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rucrazy Posted December 15, 2019 #5 Share Posted December 15, 2019 It would be the same as doing FLL thru the Canal and ending in Vancouver I see no issues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveOKC Posted December 16, 2019 Author #6 Share Posted December 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, rafinmd said: What ship and date? Roy Oosterdam - April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted December 16, 2019 #7 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Very nice. From your description I was wondering why Mexico would be involved and it's just a routine b2b with the first leg a round trip from the port of origin followed by a standard repo. I was wondering why you would even be asking about this but in the fire service we have a saying "There are no stupid questions, only stupid mistakes". Have a great time. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbear Posted December 16, 2019 #8 Share Posted December 16, 2019 It has to be ok as the Maasdam is offering the 19 day Sea of Cortez & Pacific Coastal-I’m tempted on that one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lido deck main Posted December 16, 2019 #9 Share Posted December 16, 2019 3 hours ago, canadianbear said: It has to be ok as the Maasdam is offering the 19 day Sea of Cortez & Pacific Coastal-I’m tempted on that one! Hey Canadianbear, I think you are from Vancouver, me too, we are on that Maasdam sailing in April, sailing home to Vancouver. We are also doing Copper Canyon, didn't even know about Copper Canyon until I read on the roll call, so I did some research and signed up. Why not join the cruise, there are now direct flights from Vancouver to San Diego now, we used to have to do a transfer. We are using flight ease. Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbear Posted December 16, 2019 #10 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just now, Lido deck main said: Hey Canadianbear, I think you are from Vancouver, me too, we are on that Maasdam sailing in April, sailing home to Vancouver. We are also doing Copper Canyon, didn't even know about Copper Canyon until I read on the roll call, so I did some research and signed up. Why not join the cruise, there are now direct flights from Vancouver to San Diego now, we used to have to do a transfer. We are using flight ease. Mary I actually have friends that will be on the Pacific Coastal part on the Maasdam. The problem is Mr Bear will be fishing so if I went, I’d be single and paying the single supplement and not sure I can justify it after having just been on the Oosterdam for 2 weeks! (We had the direct flight with Air Canada). Love cruises that end in our Vancouver home town. I’ll be looking forward to your review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted December 16, 2019 #11 Share Posted December 16, 2019 No problem. As discussed here frequently, the problem would be if you are going from one US port to another without a visit to a distant foreign port, the closest and most common being Cartagena or the ABC islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasick Sailor Posted December 16, 2019 #12 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Hi Dave, in 2017 we took Oosterdam down the coast from Vancouver to San Diego, to Mexican Riviera and back to San Diego. 12 days. It was alot of fun. We are thinking about the 7 day Wine Country and Pacific Northwest down to San Diego, stay with family and catch either a Mexico trip, or sail back up to Vancouver or Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmayor Posted December 16, 2019 #13 Share Posted December 16, 2019 As others have said, no issue here. We did the reverse this fall on Eurodam - Vancouver to San Diego. Booked as one 11-night cruise but one could also book them separately: 4-night Pacific Coastal Vancouver to San Diego 7-night Mexican Riviera R/T San Diego We loved the itinerary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeniEncinitas Posted December 16, 2019 #14 Share Posted December 16, 2019 14 hours ago, canadianbear said: It has to be ok as the Maasdam is offering the 19 day Sea of Cortez & Pacific Coastal-I’m tempted on that one! Love the Maasdam canadianbear! We saw the cruise and would jump on it in a heartbeat but we will already be in the Med on our cruises than! Loved your blog on the Oosterdam and have a wonderful Christmas with your granddaughters FIRST CHRISTMAS! Denise😊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serious Cruisers Posted December 16, 2019 #15 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I was going to do this sailing but changed it to vancouver (4 days pacific coastal) ends in Seattle, then seattle hawaii return for a total of 21 days same cabin. used points for a quick return flight out of seatac! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted December 16, 2019 #16 Share Posted December 16, 2019 55 minutes ago, Serious Cruisers said: I was going to do this sailing but changed it to vancouver (4 days pacific coastal) ends in Seattle, then seattle hawaii return for a total of 21 days same cabin. used points for a quick return flight out of seatac! Makes no sense. You can't do a San Diego-Seattle cruise, unless there is a stop at a distant foreign port. You can do San Diego-Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serious Cruisers Posted December 16, 2019 #17 Share Posted December 16, 2019 3 hours ago, CruiserBruce said: Makes no sense. You can't do a San Diego-Seattle cruise, unless there is a stop at a distant foreign port. You can do San Diego-Vancouver. The second cruise (Hawaii) stops in victoria for its foreign port! 21 days yahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoo here Posted December 16, 2019 #18 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Serious Cruisers said: The second cruise (Hawaii) stops in victoria for its foreign port! 21 days yahoo What are the two (or more?) cruises you're contemplating? The issue is that a non-US flagged ship cannot carry passengers from one US port to a different US port without a stop in a DISTANT foreign port. Victoria is not a distant foreign port. Edited December 16, 2019 by Shmoo here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted December 16, 2019 #19 Share Posted December 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Serious Cruisers said: The second cruise (Hawaii) stops in victoria for its foreign port! 21 days yahoo But Victoria is not a "distant foreign port", so no, you can't sail from San Diego to Seattle. If the Hawaii trip ends at Vancouver, so that you go San Diego-Vancouver in the total cruise, you are OK. The closest distant foreign ports would be Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serious Cruisers Posted December 16, 2019 #20 Share Posted December 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Shmoo here said: What are the two cruises you're contemplating? The issue is that a non-US flagged ship cannot carry passengers from one US port to a different US port without a stop in a DISTANT foreign port. Victoria is not a distant foreign port. All West Coast sailings use Victoria,Canada. We are Vancouver (4 day) ending in Seattle, then Seattle to hawaii return. Booked and paid for, now we wait (done these many times in the past). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoo here Posted December 16, 2019 #21 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Serious Cruisers said: All West Coast sailings use Victoria,Canada. We are Vancouver (4 day) ending in Seattle, then Seattle to hawaii return. Booked and paid for, now we wait (done these many times in the past). Yes, but for a repo from a foreign port ending in a US port (Seattle), as well as a round trip out of Seattle, only A foreign port is required. Not a DISTANT foreign port. I think Cruiser Bruce was reading your post as you'd be taking the San Diego/Vancouver B2B with the Vancouver/Seattle repo then the Seattle roundtrip to Hawaii. That wouldn't be allowed, as the entire cruise would be from San Diego to Seattle and violates the PVSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serious Cruisers Posted December 16, 2019 #22 Share Posted December 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, Shmoo here said: Yes, but for a repo from a foreign port ending in a US port (Seattle), as well as a round trip out of Seattle, only A foreign port is required. Not a DISTANT foreign port. I think Cruiser Bruce was reading your post as you'd be taking the San Diego/Vancouver B2B with the Vancouver/Seattle repo then the Seattle roundtrip to Hawaii. That wouldn't be allowed, as the entire cruise would be from San Diego to Seattle and violates the PVSA. Thanks Smhoo that makes sense now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted December 17, 2019 #23 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Serious Cruisers said: All West Coast sailings use Victoria,Canada. We are Vancouver (4 day) ending in Seattle, then Seattle to hawaii return. Booked and paid for, now we wait (done these many times in the past). There is a requirement within the regulations for a stop at a foreign port for a round trip out of a US port. That is where Victoria comes in, for Alaska cruises, for example. This post: I was going to do this sailing but changed it to vancouver (4 days pacific coastal) ends in Seattle, then seattle hawaii return for a total of 21 days same cabin. used points for a quick return flight out of seatac! was very confusing...that is why we are trying to get the correct info to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevingastreich Posted December 17, 2019 #24 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) On 12/15/2019 at 3:06 PM, DaveOKC said: I am thinking of combining a 7 day Mexico cruise (from/to San Diego) followed by a Pacific Coastal cruise from San Diego to Vancouver. Same ship. Is this route possible or do I run into some US restriction? Since I basically am starting in the US and ending in Canada, I think that this would work, but want to be sure. If they offer it...you can book it. When you book a cruise, you are not required to research laws and rules to make sure you are not violating any. Edited December 17, 2019 by kevingastreich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted December 17, 2019 #25 Share Posted December 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, kevingastreich said: If they offer it...you can book it. When you book a cruise, you are not required to research laws and rules to make sure you are not violating any. There have been a number of times mentioned here that after people have booked, it has been discovered by the cruise line the route violates the law and regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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