Masks Outside!

[Spartancoach]

We leave on the Panorama Saturday and just got all the final boarding emails from Carnival and noticed that it said masks are required at all times.  I assumed prior that outside like everywhere else in the world it is okay not to wear a mask.  Do I really need to wear a mask while on the lido deck or playing mini-golf?  This seems a little ridiculous.  

[Joe817]

The best recommendation I could offer you is: let your conscience be your guide; observe what the majority of other people are doing, and follow suit; use common sense; and enjoy your cruise. 

[skrufy]

14 minutes ago, Spartancoach said:

We leave on the Panorama Saturday and just got all the final boarding emails from Carnival and noticed that it said masks are required at all times.  I assumed prior that outside like everywhere else in the world it is okay not to wear a mask.  Do I really need to wear a mask while on the lido deck or playing mini-golf?  This seems a little ridiculous.  

You will find many without masks outside, and quite a few inside. We leave on the Miracle Sunday. No masks for me outside. On the Freedom this past December the masks were loosely enforced. Entering the buffet they were enforcing wearing masks.

[tallnthensome]

You don't need masks outside. Relax .....

[bucfan2]

As ridiculous as some protocols may appear,  masks are not required outside (please don't give them any ideas).

[NutsAboutGolf]

Outside a few areas like casino table games, guest services, excursions desk, etc, there's almost zero mask enforcement and if you're told by the crew to mask up and ignore (as I witnessed on my sailing) the crew does nothing.

 

However, the rules currently state: "when outdoors if in large gatherings and physical distancing cannot be maintained"

[TNcruising02]

Can you copy what you received?  Maybe it's a California thing because Carnival isn't requiring wearing masks outdoors unless it's a crowded area or you are within three feet of someone who is not in your group.

"outdoors if in large gatherings and physical distancing cannot be maintained"

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• Outdoors – Remain at least 3 feet from others when not wearing a mask and not in your cruise companion group.

[bamaone]

16 minutes ago, TNcruising02 said:

Can you copy what you received?  Maybe it's a California thing because Carnival isn't requiring wearing masks outdoors unless it's a crowded area or you are within three feet of someone who is not in your group.

"outdoors if in large gatherings and physical distancing cannot be maintained"

"

• Outdoors – Remain at least 3 feet from others when not wearing a mask and not in your cruise companion group.

Can’t be a cali thing. Did you see the Super Bowl last night? 

[MrMarc]

16 minutes ago, NutsAboutGolf said:

Outside a few areas like casino table games, guest services, excursions desk, etc, there's almost zero mask enforcement and if you're told by the crew to mask up and ignore (as I witnessed on my sailing) the crew does nothing.

 

However, the rules currently state: "when outdoors if in large gatherings and physical distancing cannot be maintained"

And hopefully they will finally start disembarking people who do this.  This is amazingly disrespectful to the crew (who see you do that and consider you a total jerk), not to mention the other people who are not as "special" as you are and know rules are supposed to be followed even when they are not enforced with punishment.  Clearly you need more negative reinforcement when it comes to rules.

[bucfan2]

14 minutes ago, bamaone said:

Can’t be a cali thing. Did you see the Super Bowl last night? 

The Super Bowl is the new standard for 'large gatherings', as well as 'proper distancing'....at least it's improvement in the protocols.

[Bostwick girl]

Would love to see some statistics on how many got Covid after the super bowl. 
 

[kdr69]

23 minutes ago, MrMarc said:

And hopefully they will finally start disembarking people who do this.  This is amazingly disrespectful to the crew (who see you do that and consider you a total jerk), not to mention the other people who are not as "special" as you are and know rules are supposed to be followed even when they are not enforced with punishment.  Clearly you need more negative reinforcement when it comes to rules.

Uhmmm i think you need to re read his comment.  No where in it does he say he did this only that he witnessed it.

[Jasonsterling]

It wasn't that way on the Vista a couple of weeks ago. Now, in the boarding terminal, yes because that's a federal mandate but out on deck on the ship no and as far as I know it never has been a requirement from the start. I wouldn't worry about it. The major lines are rolling policies back to win summer travelers, plus Omicron probably hit their staffs so hard there's no one left to get it anyway. 

[NutsAboutGolf]

17 minutes ago, MrMarc said:

And hopefully they will finally start disembarking people who do this.  This is amazingly disrespectful to the crew (who see you do that and consider you a total jerk), not to mention the other people who are not as "special" as you are and know rules are supposed to be followed even when they are not enforced with punishment.  Clearly you need more negative reinforcement when it comes to rules.

 

To be clear, I wore my mask indoors at all times.  After a crewmember said mask up to other passengers, I witnessed several passengers say snarky-rude comments back to crew members.  Again, nothing happened.

 

Rule enforcement has always been the second most hotly debated cruising topic (tipping is #1).  You can group mask enforcement along with chair hog enforcement as both are incredibly weak.  They don't fine you like smoking in non-smoking areas.

[mz-s]

7 minutes ago, NutsAboutGolf said:

 

To be clear, I wore my mask indoors at all times.  After a crewmember said mask up to other passengers, I witnessed several passengers say snarky-rude comments back to crew members.  Again, nothing happened.

 

Rule enforcement has always been the second most hotly debated cruising topic (tipping is #1).  You can group mask enforcement along with chair hog enforcement as both are incredibly weak.  They don't fine you like smoking in non-smoking areas.

 

Well there's no need in the passengers being rude to the crew. That's uncalled for.

[MrMarc]

6 minutes ago, NutsAboutGolf said:

 

To be clear, I wore my mask indoors at all times.  After a crewmember said mask up to other passengers, I witnessed several passengers say snarky-rude comments back to crew members.  Again, nothing happened.

 

Rule enforcement has always been the second most hotly debated cruising topic (tipping is #1).  You can group mask enforcement along with chair hog enforcement as both are incredibly weak.  They don't fine you like smoking in non-smoking areas.

I apologize for misreading your post.  Personally I wish they would start enforcing the rules or get rid of them.  I prefer them to be in effect, but I hate expecting them to be in effect, then they really are not.  Do one or the other so people can make an informed decision as to whether to sail or not.  There are far too many people having to ask about mask enforcement from both sides of the issue.

[MrMarc]

1 minute ago, mz-s said:

 

Well there's no need in the passengers being rude to the crew. That's uncalled for.

That's what the crew I've spoken with hate the most.  They feel totally disrespected.  I heard that word from almost all of the crew I have discussed this with on 3 different cruises.

[MrMarc]

11 minutes ago, kdr69 said:

Uhmmm i think you need to re read his comment.  No where in it does he say he did this only that he witnessed it.

You are correct, and I apologized to him.  I need (not necessarily in this order) new glasses, a new monitor or, a new brain.

[mz-s]

12 minutes ago, MrMarc said:

That's what the crew I've spoken with hate the most.  They feel totally disrespected.  I heard that word from almost all of the crew I have discussed this with on 3 different cruises.

 

A sad commentary on how our national discourse has devolved over the past two years. I don't know if it's fixable at this point.

[famof4togo]

14 minutes ago, MrMarc said:

That's what the crew I've spoken with hate the most.  They feel totally disrespected.  I heard that word from almost all of the crew I have discussed this with on 3 different cruises.

Or maybe they just want to do the job they signed up for and do not like to play the "mask police". 

[MrMarc]

1 minute ago, mz-s said:

 

A sad commentary on how our national discourse has devolved over the past two years. I don't know if it's fixable at this point.

I truly believe it is, but I have no idea how or when.  Usually it's a disaster or war.  COVID didn't help, it made it worse.  The other possibility is more grim.

[LuvCruiSun]

1 hour ago, TNcruising02 said:

Can you copy what you received?  Maybe it's a California thing because Carnival isn't requiring wearing masks outdoors unless it's a crowded area or you are within three feet of someone who is not in your group.

"outdoors if in large gatherings and physical distancing cannot be maintained"

"

• Outdoors – Remain at least 3 feet from others when not wearing a mask and not in your cruise companion group.

Panorama out of California on New Year’s Eve. About half of the people were wearing masks. Obviously no social distancing happening!

[MrMarc]

18 minutes ago, famof4togo said:

Or maybe they just want to do the job they signed up for and do not like to play the "mask police". 

No.  I am relaying what they said, not whit I think they said or wish they said so I could justify things.  They want people wearing masks both for their own health as well as people respecting that it is part of their job.  No maybe about it,

[NutsAboutGolf]

22 minutes ago, famof4togo said:

Or maybe they just want to do the job they signed up for and do not like to play the "mask police". 

 

Additionally, odds are playing mask police affects their tips specifically for the bar/drink/wait staff.  I wore my mask while playing video poker, no one else around me wore theirs at the other machines and I did not witness the drink service staff tell anyone to mask up.

[bamaone]

40 minutes ago, mz-s said:

 

A sad commentary on how our national discourse has devolved over the past two years. I don't know if it's fixable at this point.

It’s fixable. But it will take some effort. Something we’re not getting right now.