Smoking on your balcony is out! Gratuities are going up.

[luvtheships]

What I truly do not understand is if only 10-20% of the population now are smokers, then how do so many non-smokers always end up with smokers all around their balcony (above, below, next door on both sides) :rolleyes:? It seems, all the time, I'm reading non-smokers who this has happened to them and the smoking neighbor always seems to be a chain-smoker too ~ are some non-smokers hugely exaggerating this?! However, if this is true, then with those odds, I think maybe the non-smokers should play the lottery ~ just sayin'!! :D

 

That is very simple as it appears that cruisers who want to smoke book balconies so it is no surprise that those 10 to 20% of the 3000 to 4000 cruisers on a ship are in those balconies

 

That's anywhere From 300 to 800 pax

 

However I would venture to guess that those % quoted are slightly erroneous and do not account for the entire world population either

 

Remember cruisers come From all parts of the globe even from some places where smoking is quite popular

 

If you don't believe that smoking is still quite poplar in some countries you just aren't seeing enough of the world.

 

 

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[lyannea]

If you love to cruise and smoke and can't smoke on your balcony, what about using those electric cigs for the one week you're cruising ?

 

If Carnival was smart, they would sell them at a discount in their stores and allow them on balconies and, better yet, give them out in the casino.

[TerReuv]

The next thing would be if they are stopping smoking on the balconies, then they need to realize that an e-cig is not a regular cigarette and let folks smoke those on their balcony and other areas.

 

Of course, I am sure there are lots of non-smokers who want those banned also. My DH is a smoker and I am not, and I don't care what anyone elses says, I can sit next to him on the balcony of a moving ship and hardly smell the smoke as it dissapates quickly.

 

I believe that the majority of smokers are considerate smokers, but I also believe that the majority of non-smokers are not considerate! If they would only say something (in a nice and polite manner) then most smokers I know would put a cigarette out immediately or move away. Are there rude smokers who don't care what others think? Of course there are, but I think there are many more rude non-smokers who think that their rights trump everyone else's. They get all up on their high horse, when all it would take is a nice word to the smoker.

 

I don't know if we would do to another line if the take away smoking on the balconies, but it sure would make life harder when on a cruise. I really feel sorry for the folks who smoke that have younger kids. How do you leave your kids in the room to go have a cigarette? The balcony made that easier for them.

[richstowe]

One smoker could make balconies unusable for several cabins. We'd love to book more balconies but why bother if we can't smell the fresh ocean.

The worst for me is going out to enjoy a morning coffee on port days at the same time

as a smoker is enjoying their coffee with a smoke.

A single smoker can ruin it for many many surrounding cabins.

 

Carnival is struggling to fill their ships now. They really can't afford to alienate a single customer right now.

You are making the assumption that they will lose more customers then they will gain.

There are many ,including me, who will not book a balcony on Carnival.

I don't buy that this is a bad financial decision for Carnival , certainly in the longer term .

[goldenk]

I'll believe it when someone shows me a photo about such a controversial subject. One not from their TA. I don't believe it is true. Even RC gave their customers four months to start at the beginning of the year.

[hftmrock]

If you love to cruise and smoke and can't smoke on your balcony, what about using those electric cigs for the one week you're cruising ?

 

If Carnival was smart, they would sell them at a discount in their stores and allow them on balconies and, better yet, give them out in the casino.

 

at the moment, ecigs have the same rules as cigarettes. if they dont change that, you cant use ecigs on balconies either

[stobe1]

Funny thing is, you're violating Carnival's rules if you leave the balcony door open........unlike the smokers on the balcony. :rolleyes:

 

...and the smoker did the responsible thing and just decided to flick the cigarette butt anywhere he/she pleased. I'm sure there are rules (and signs everywhere) about throwing things overboard.

[TPFKAH]

The next thing would be if they are stopping smoking on the balconies, then they need to realize that an e-cig is not a regular cigarette and let folks smoke those on their balcony and other areas.

 

Of course, I am sure there are lots of non-smokers who want those banned also. My DH is a smoker and I am not, and I don't care what anyone elses says, I can sit next to him on the balcony of a moving ship and hardly smell the smoke as it dissapates quickly.

 

 

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Same. I don't get it. I sit there and smell nothing. And I'm one of those PItB ex smokers.

[TerReuv]

I'll believe it when someone shows me a photo about such a controversial subject. One not from their TA. I don't believe it is true. Even RC gave their customers four months to start at the beginning of the year.

 

Actually, as much as I don't want to belive it either, reports on Facebook say that if you call the reps to book they are telling customers that after October 9th no smoking on balconies.

[RuthlessBoss]

I am sure there will be fines given to people who do smoke and it would be pretty easy for a neighbor to take a picture or video for proof

 

Not if you are inside your cabin with the door slightly cracked;)

[stobe1]

It stopped on RCI when they changed the smoking policy. There is a $200 fee (each time you are reported for smoking on your balcony) plus you could be put off the ship for disregarding the rules.

 

I'm sure Carnival will have a similar policy.

 

Time will tell. It's hard to say what the penalty will be for a policy that has yet to be put in place. One can only hope that would be the penalty and that the penalty is actually enforced.

 

Otherwise, I can guarantee you that there will be some people on every cruise that will try to defy the system.

[JLee1973]

Not if you are inside your cabin with the door slightly cracked;)

 

What most smokers fall to realize since it dies affect their sense of smell. A none smoker including a staff member can easily smell when s someone has smoked. If you want to smoke go ahead but I am sure unlike smuggling this will involve a monetary fine.

 

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[hftmrock]

Not if you are inside your cabin with the door slightly cracked;)

 

 

true, but then you risk a larger 'clean up' fee if the steward smells the smoke.

 

There will be people hell bent on breaking the rules because they disagree with them. Not sure why they dont just patronize a company that has rules that they will abide by.

[KevInPitt]

As a few others have said, as a smoker I try to be considerate of others when smoking. Should I be aware of others on adjoining balconies I extinguish my cigarette. I choose not to smoke in the casino because I acknowledge how uncomfortable the lingering smoke can be in such an enclosed space. I too am annoyed by other smokers who discard their waste with disregard.

I don’t think I would reconsider cruising with Carnival should they choose to prohibit smoking on balconies. Other lines have done so and it doesn’t negatively impact my decision to consider cruising with them.

Smoking can indeed be a significant annoyance to non-smokers. It is my decision to smoke but it is my obligation to try minimizing any imposition on those who do not. In a closely populated space such as a cruise ship this can be a challenge. As such, I make the effort to abide by the rules and (more importantly) be a considerate person.

[luvtheships]

Norwegian still allows smoking on balconies so that will become my cruise line of choice.

 

I personally think that smoking on balcony should be banned however the silver lining for me and that is why I book Ncl is that at least the smokers stay away from the outdoor venues to smoke and it also doesn't force them to go to the casino to smoke if they have a balcony

 

I prefer totally non smoking anyway

 

I do not like balconys either. Smoking or not

 

 

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[beachbum53]

After 8 pages (and still growing), the pot has certainly been sufficiently stirred, all because of an unofficial, unsubstantiated rumor. I am a smoker, but I won't give this whole thing any creedence until it is officially posted on Carnival's web site for all of the world to see. I try my best to be respectful towards the rights of non-smokers, but I would appreciate the same in return. As for making one side of the ship's balconies non-smoking, I'm not sure how well that would work out. As it is now, when a non-smoker books a balcony, he/she knows there is a possibilty that one or more neighbors may be smokers. So let's say all of the balcony cabins that are non-smoking (on whichever side) are booked, but there are still a few available on the smoking side. How long will it take for a non-smoker to decide that they really have their heart set to go on a specific cruise/itinerary, somewhat reluctantly book a balcony cabin on the smoking side, then whine, complain and over-exaggerate how awful it was when their neighbors smoked on their balcony? I, a smoker, don't ask non-smokers to give up their rights to a smoke-free environment. But how many non-smokers will give me the same consideration when I smoke? This is and always will be a no-win situation. There is no compromise that will satisfy everyone. The non-smokers will always be more vocal and uncompromising, and we smokers will always be treated like some repugnant creature that crawled out of a swamp.

[luvtheships]

As a few others have said, as a smoker I try to be considerate of others when smoking. Should I be aware of others on adjoining balconies I extinguish my cigarette. I choose not to smoke in the casino because I acknowledge how uncomfortable the lingering smoke can be in such an enclosed space. I too am annoyed by other smokers who discard their waste with disregard.

I don’t think I would reconsider cruising with Carnival should they choose to prohibit smoking on balconies. Other lines have done so and it doesn’t negatively impact my decision to consider cruising with them.

Smoking can indeed be a significant annoyance to non-smokers. It is my decision to smoke but it is my obligation to try minimizing any imposition on those who do not. In a closely populated space such as a cruise ship this can be a challenge. As such, I make the effort to abide by the rules and (more importantly) be a considerate person.

 

This is what I found to be the case on my heavily European populated princess cruise as well

 

It just seemed classier for them to NOT upset others with smoking

 

The last thing someone should want to do us seriously upset someone with their behavior

 

Doesn't a messy drunk just look foolish and upset others?

 

Same for an inconsiderate smoker who doesn't care about those around them

 

Kudos to you for being considerate. I do not smoke or drink to excess but I am still considerate if others

 

I do not play loud music nor speed race nor make a glutton of myself I removed my screaming kids when they were little. I let others bypass me if I was walking too slow for them etc

 

In other words I just did what needed to be done so that others would not ridicule me

 

I do not really live by what others think I just respect myself enough to not be made the butt of jokes and complaints. I think those Europeans on my ship realized that too and that is why they were able to refrain from causing problems and chose to just not smoke onboard

 

 

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[crusinpsychRN]

I vote for a ban on "Old Lady" perfume. LOL

 

...and Aqua Velva

BO

stinky suntan lotion

stinky bug spray

 

The list could go on.

 

Smoker's have so few places to smoke now, eliminating balconies is NOT a good move.

[TPFKAH]

...and Aqua Velva

BO

stinky suntan lotion

stinky bug spray

 

The list could go on.

 

Smoker's have so few places to smoke now, eliminating balconies is NOT a good move.

 

How about those idiots that stand up and spray those "aerosol" suntan lotions, and everyone downwind gets to coat their lungs with Avobenzone, Homosalate, Octisalate, Octocrlene and Oxybenzone.

[CRUZBUDS]

I hope it's true -- Anyone that not is total denial knows it is inevitable

 

I would have bet HAL would have been next. If it's true on Carnival, it will be interesting to see what mass-market line will be last to provide smoke-free balconies HAL or NCL.

 

We booked Carnival October 2015 some time ago, hoping Carnival would have caught up with most of the industry (and society) by then :)

[dwaterhouse]

IF the smoking ban is true.... The reason given should be/will be because of the fire hazard. So why would/should they ban ecigs on balconies? They need to address the ecig policy.

 

I am sure someone will complain about the vapor from the ecig also, but it's should be about compromise, if you are gonna take something away you should give a viable alternative.

 

I think take away the actual cigarettes on balconies, but allow e-cigs ( no fire hazard ).

[Bookbug53]

Me too. And to be honest try to stop me. I hear a knock on the door, I'll fling the butt and say I smelled it too, I think it was the room below me.

 

This is the attitude that gives some smokers a bad name. Rules don't apply and I don't care what the consequences are. I will lie and endanger others to have my smoke. :cool:

 

I cruise November 2nd and could not be happier with the ban. Keeping my fingers crossed. ;)

[ladylikes2cruise]

When they implemented the No Smoking in rooms policy they gave more notice than this. They also gave everyone a 30 day time frame to cancel cruises and refund deposits even though booked Early Saver. Hopefully, they will do the right thing this time and do the same as there will be many canceling their cruises.

 

I would definitely fight them for your airfare as that was not the policy when you booked!

 

Hopefully, they will give the 30 day window to cancel as they did when they changed the policy to Non-smoking rooms a couple of years ago!

 

hope so, it will make my decision to cancel my Splender cruise next year that much easier;)

[aaron3219]

I really think its funny that everyone gets so hot on the smoking subject.

 

Let people smoke on their balconies. The ship is traveling at 21 knots. There is no lingering smoke, its outside!

 

Some people aren't going to stop being offended unless they shoot everyone that smokes.

[CRUZBUDS]

I really think its funny that everyone gets so hot on the smoking subject.

 

Let people smoke on their balconies. The ship is traveling at 21 knots. There is no lingering smoke, its outside!

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My mistake -- the stench of cigarette smoke I smelled on my balcony must have been something else, gee I wonder what it was? :rolleyes: