This Thread Is To Be Used For All Discussions About HAL's On Board Smoking Policies

[Ken the cruiser]

Sorry ... Corrected link

 

http://f.e.hollandamerica.com/i/41/1010169812/Smoking_Policy.pdf

 

Thanks for the correction and more importantly THANK YOU for sharing the HAL smoking policy letter with us and thank you HAL for finally getting in line with the other cruise lines!! Happy days are here again!!

[kennicott]

Hallelujah----I'm getting ahold of HAL and asking them to put us back on their future cruise mailing list.

 

Hope this isn't a gag. If not this places HAL as one of the most restrictive smoking lines now. Princess is tough but they offer exclusive cigar and cigarette lounges i.e. "Churchill's"

[OVgirl]

About time :). But we are somewhat surprised about the timing and relatively fast implementation. We know of several World Cruise regulars who book suites so that they have a decent smoking venue (on their balcony). One wonders if anyone will cancel.

 

Hank

 

Amsterdam and Prinsendam do not get the updated policy until April and May.

[OVgirl]

Hallelujah----I'm getting ahold of HAL and asking them to put us back on their future cruise mailing list.

 

Hope this isn't a gag. If not this places HAL as one of the most restrictive smoking lines now. Princess is tough but they offer exclusive cigar and cigarette lounges i.e. "Churchill's"

 

And HAL will never provide indoor smoking lounges.

[Aquahound]

And HAL will never provide indoor smoking lounges.

 

Well, that's not entirely accurate considering Noordam has one.

 

...this places HAL as one of the most restrictive smoking lines now. Princess is tough but they offer exclusive cigar and cigarette lounges i.e. "Churchill's"

 

Celebrity is the most tough. According to these rules, Oosterdam and Eurodam will be even with Celebrity as the most restrictive on smoking. Curious though...why did they choose those 2 ships to not allow casino smoking? :confused:

[PirateShark]

HAL is now back on the "consider" list :)

[taxmantoo]

Well, that's not entirely accurate considering Noordam has one.

 

 

 

Celebrity is the most tough. According to these rules, Oosterdam and Eurodam will be even with Celebrity as the most restrictive on smoking. Curious though...why did they choose those 2 ships to not allow casino smoking? :confused:

 

Because they were the first to be refurbished where the Sports Bar has been eliminated, the Piano Bar walls taken down and opened to the Casino, and the new Gallery Bar introduced which also opens onto the Casino. So basically, the Casino is an integral and open part of an entertainment area and is no longer its own separate space. Other Vista ships will follow as time goes by.

[aliaschief]

Well, that's not entirely accurate considering Noordam has one.

 

 

 

Celebrity is the most tough. According to these rules, Oosterdam and Eurodam will be even with Celebrity as the most restrictive on smoking. Curious though...why did they choose those 2 ships to not allow casino smoking? :confused:

 

These two ships have under gone renovations which removed the old piano bar and sports bar in order to have a larger area to accommodate Dueling Pianos/Piano Entertainer. Area is more open and close to Casino hence no smoking.

[Sequim88]

ms Oosterdam and ms Eurodam casinos are completely non-smoking, however.

 

This is the best part for us since we will have an Inside on Oosterdam next year. Now we can actually use the casino! I wonder if this is a test through to gauge casino revenue change - either way.

[blizzardboy]

I'm a non-smoker who wonders if the "no-smoking-on verandas" lobby will now direct their whining towards a real problem, like rampant mosquito-repellent use on verandas while in port. ;)

Edited September 30, 2016 by blizzardboy

[alwaysfrantic]

Previous to this announcement weren't ecigarettes banned in staterooms but will now be allowed? Sounds to me like smokers were given a concession at the same time non smokers were as well.

[kazu]

Previous to this announcement weren't ecigarettes banned in staterooms but will now be allowed? Sounds to me like smokers were given a concession at the same time non smokers were as well.

 

Not an e cigarette user but I remember a discussion on why they weren't permitted in staterooms. I think you are correct.

 

Seems strange it is permitted now.

[Aquahound]

These two ships have under gone renovations which removed the old piano bar and sports bar in order to have a larger area to accommodate Dueling Pianos/Piano Entertainer. Area is more open and close to Casino hence no smoking.

 

Because they were the first to be refurbished where the Sports Bar has been eliminated, the Piano Bar walls taken down and opened to the Casino, and the new Gallery Bar introduced which also opens onto the Casino. So basically, the Casino is an integral and open part of an entertainment area and is no longer its own separate space. Other Vista ships will follow as time goes by.

 

Ah-ha! Thank you very much. I haven't kept up with refurbs, so I didn't know this. :)

[OVgirl]

Not an e cigarette user but I remember a discussion on why they weren't permitted in staterooms. I think you are correct.

 

Seems strange it is permitted now.

 

E-cigarettes have always been allowed in staterooms, but only in the designated smoking areas outside.

 

Seems to me now that the elephant in the room is the casino. What makes HAL think that smoke in the casino is less intrusive than verandah smoking? The smoke just spreads everywhere around the casino.

 

Since we have a smoker in our cabin, we can just book the cheap seats from now on.

[kazu]

E-cigarettes have always been allowed in staterooms, but only in the designated smoking areas outside.

 

Seems to me now that the elephant in the room is the casino. What makes HAL think that smoke in the casino is less intrusive than verandah smoking? The smoke just spreads everywhere around the casino.

 

Since we have a smoker in our cabin, we can just book the cheap seats from now on.

 

Thanks :). For some reason I thought they were not.

 

I didn't see anything in the current smoking policy on e cigs,so I was going by memory ;)

[CTBob]

Maybe my luck is changing. Recently had a Celebrity cruise change to a charter and lost that reservation, but my reservation on the Koningsdam is for January 8th! This is the first day for the new smoking policy on the K-dam. My wife will be especially happy.

[alwaysfrantic]

E-cigarettes have always been allowed in staterooms, but only in the designated smoking areas outside.

 

Seems to me now that the elephant in the room is the casino. What makes HAL think that smoke in the casino is less intrusive than verandah smoking? The smoke just spreads everywhere around the casino.

 

Since we have a smoker in our cabin, we can just book the cheap seats from now on.

Thank you for clarifying. I had remembered it incorrectly. I am wrong then about there being a concession to smokers.

[sppunk]

This new news should be a stand-alone thread. No one will realize the new policy buried 107 pages deep.

[Lizzie68]

I totally agree. In fact - make it a sticky.

 

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Edited September 30, 2016 by Lizzie68

[Lady Arwen]

This new news should be a stand-alone thread. No one will realize the new policy buried 107 pages deep.

 

A new thread was posted just a while ago, in fact, the original announcement. I was one of many posters on this thread. The entire thread was pulled and I can't find it or any of the responses anywhere.

[kazu]

A new thread was posted just a while ago, in fact, the original announcement. I was one of many posters on this thread. The entire thread was pulled and I can't find it or any of the responses anywhere.

 

If they move it here, most people will miss it :(

 

Not everyone reads this thread and unless people know about the new policy, they won't. It's what brought me here ;)

[sppunk]

A new thread was posted just a while ago, in fact, the original announcement. I was one of many posters on this thread. The entire thread was pulled and I can't find it or any of the responses anywhere.

I had responded too - then saw it poof. Only reason I looked in here was to see if it was copied over. It wasn't.

 

Yay for the policy change though!

[HamOp]

I had responded too - then saw it poof. Only reason I looked in here was to see if it was copied over. It wasn't.

 

Yay for the policy change though!

 

I think you will find the policy has not changed. (of course, I could be wrong.)

[sandij]

Totally unfair, booked a cruise for DH to smoke on balcony and they change the rules a week before our cruise. I would have gone to different line for better price/ Will know better in future.

[alwaysfrantic]

I think you will find the policy has not changed. (of course, I could be wrong.)

 

It definitely changed. Here is the link from other proofed thread: http://f.e.hollandamerica.com/i/41/1010169812/Smoking_Policy.pdf