Rare LHT28 Posted June 30, 2018 #26 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Andee; They only make up 1/3rd of the itineraries. Plus, we don’t know actual occupancy levels. I’ve read and heard multiple reports of the Riveria cruising the Carribe in winter at 2/3rds or so occupancy levels. we cruised in Dec 2017 the ship was pretty full not sure where you get your DATA Some people just make stuff up for effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted June 30, 2018 #27 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Lyn; I think every cruise is different, some sell well, while others don’t. Like my brother, I’ve gotten some of those sweetheart offers likewise. The fares people pay are fares they find acceptable. It would be foolish to believe that all aboard are paying the same, especially on those cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted June 30, 2018 #28 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Lyn; I think every cruise is different, some sell well, while others don’t. Like my brother, I’ve gotten some of those sweetheart offers likewise. The fares people pay are fares they find acceptable. It would be foolish to believe that all aboard are paying the same, especially on those cruises. I am well aware that some get discounted sweet deal I cannot believe some of the other crap that is posted here though :eek: JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jancruz Posted June 30, 2018 #29 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I am well aware that some get discounted sweet deal I cannot believe some of the other crap that is posted here though :eek: JMO Plus 1 Jancruz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob the Cruiser Posted June 30, 2018 #30 Share Posted June 30, 2018 We did Explorer when it was the newest. I did not find one thing better than Riviera and Marina in my opinion. On the other hand, we do NOT like the R ships. Everything is too small and outdated for us. My husband is very tall, so the newer ships are better for us. We are not falling all over ourselves for the new Regent ship. That being said we were really dedicated to Crystal, but it just seems REALLY outdated to us, just like the R ships. Try it, see if you like it. We are like Mura. We like the big suites. How tall is "very tall"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classiccruiser777 Posted June 30, 2018 #31 Share Posted June 30, 2018 The R ships are, at most, middle aged, some would say they are in their prime. They have a service life of 40 years and we love them. If the decor or size isn’t one’s cup of tea there are many options out there. Last fall, while we were on an O cruise, a senior officer told us not to be surprised if O announces a couple of new builds soon, both of which would fall between the current R and O class ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andee Posted June 30, 2018 #32 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I'd like them to combine the cabins of the O ships with the layout and public spaces of the R ships. On the O ships, we don't like the shops, the look of the casino, the layout of the card room and library, and the location of Baristas. Sent from my SM-G930V using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted June 30, 2018 #33 Share Posted June 30, 2018 the R Ships do not work anymore and the Newer ships are teriffic but need to be up dated. At this rate there in no future for Oceania as we know it. Need new ships as every other cruise line is getting. Too bad that we will have to look elsewhere in the future. I have one question...why??? What do you mean the R ships do not work anymore???? Everyone I have been on worked just fine. What need to be up dated on the O ships...???? I can not see any problems. If it aint broke why fix it ? Why is new better other than being new its only attribute ??? If you judge a product by how new it is then that is your yard stick. I just dont see any merit in having to have new this or new that just because it is new. The navy keeps ships for 25-30 years I was on a ship launched in 1942 that served till 1966.....just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Noxequifans Posted June 30, 2018 #34 Share Posted June 30, 2018 O did not pay that much for the R ships as they were bought from a bankrupt company so O is not covering the cost of new builds. With emphasis on food and high quality maintenance the R ships are a winner all around and should be for quite a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggins0402 Posted June 30, 2018 #35 Share Posted June 30, 2018 One ace in the hole that the R ships have is unique itineraries, because of their size. O isn’t only about food, but itineraries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andee Posted June 30, 2018 #36 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Oh, not bigger! The R ships are already too big for us. To me, true luxury means more expensive and we don't want that, either. Sent from my SM-G930V using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted June 30, 2018 #37 Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) Andee,Let me give you a link to my vision of luxury: A Luxury Ship of Love and Romance EEEEWWWW NO Too many pax We did 2 cruises on the Eurodam if it was not a themed charter cruise we would have never sailed on HAL The only good thing I can say about the cruise was the food was HOT when it got to the table Edited June 30, 2018 by LHT28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted June 30, 2018 #38 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Andee,Let me give you a link to my vision of luxury: A Luxury Ship of Love and Romance Tell me again which part is the LUXURY part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted July 1, 2018 #39 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Andee, Let me give you a link to my vision of luxury: A Luxury Ship of Love and Romance Surely you're kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruseforme Posted July 1, 2018 #40 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Surely you're kidding. Been here before, pls do not encourage him: https://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2582920 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted July 1, 2018 #41 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Been here before, pls do not encourage him: https://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2582920 Yes, now I remember - thanks for reminding me. My memory ain’t what it used to be :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted July 1, 2018 #42 Share Posted July 1, 2018 the R Ships do not work anymore and the Newer ships are teriffic but need to be up dated. At this rate there in no future for Oceania as we know it. Need new ships as every other cruise line is getting. Too bad that we will have to look elsewhere in the future. I guess you're welcome to look elsewhere. We found the Riviera a perfect fit for us. Food was outstanding & you never felt crowded. Staff was excellent & itineraries met & exceeded our expectations. Weather was crappy, but oh well. I'm sure they'll be working on it. LOL! We enjoyed our trip enough this past Jan. to book a 14 day trip on Riviera this coming Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted July 1, 2018 #43 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Andee,Let me give you a link to my vision of luxury: A Luxury Ship of Love and Romance HAL is anything but luxury! They're a decent "middle of the road" cruiseline, but NO comparison to Oceania. The Prinsendam comes closest to Oceania in size but lacks even the finer touches to call itself "premium". Why would I pay a fee for eating in Pinnacle Grill, when the grade of beef is choice & most likely actually select grade? With the exception of La Reserve(which pairs wine with food) the rest. on Riviera were outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mura Posted July 1, 2018 #44 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Are you saying you didn't like La Reserve? (We liked it well enough to dine there four times so far.) Or is it that you don't count it as one of the "regular" restaurants? Mura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammiedawg Posted July 1, 2018 #45 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Andee,Let me give you a link to my vision of luxury: A Luxury Ship of Love and Romance To each his own, but no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andee Posted July 1, 2018 #46 Share Posted July 1, 2018 You lost me at 2000+ passengers. Not for us. Sent from my SM-G930V using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no fuss travel Posted July 1, 2018 #47 Share Posted July 1, 2018 EEEEWWWW NOToo many pax I'm with you. Don't like big ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted July 1, 2018 #48 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Are you saying you didn't like La Reserve? (We liked it well enough to dine there four times so far.) Or is it that you don't count it as one of the "regular" restaurants? Mura My oops! Meant to not count as one of the complimentary rest. on board, due to the cost of the wine pairing. It was the best meal on the ship. We did the Le Bourgeoisie, which was excellent. We were also booked for the Connoisseur's meal, but it got cancelled due to too few pax signing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted July 1, 2018 #49 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Are you saying you didn't like La Reserve? (We liked it well enough to dine there four times so far.) Or is it that you don't count it as one of the "regular" restaurants? Mura The food in La Reserve can be a treat. However, pushing the whole "wine pairing" concept is, IMO, a bit much. If I'm looking at an unfamiliar wine, I don't want it sullied by food. Then, there's the issue of the selected wines. But, that's a whole other discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted July 1, 2018 #50 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Tell me again which part is the LUXURY part? In reality luxury is a relative thing based on ones experience and values.... If you spent your life eating spam then a Steak would be luxury. Different values and different experience is what it boils down to.... if you sail Carnival then HAL is luxury . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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