Are you afraid of the coronavirus in your next cruise?

[vacationut]

Curious, what happens if your ship is quarantined, do you have to pay for food, drinks, DSC, or other services during that time? 

[mom says]

4 minutes ago, vacationut said:

Curious, what happens if your ship is quarantined, do you have to pay for food, drinks, DSC, or other services during that time? 

There are cruisers posting on the Princess forum from the quarantined ship. Why not ask them?

[ilikeanswers]

1 hour ago, vacationut said:

Curious, what happens if your ship is quarantined, do you have to pay for food, drinks, DSC, or other services during that time? 

 

No they are not being charged anything, but service is limited. As someone said check out the Princess forum and also this FB page:

David Abel

 

He has been posting regular video describing life on the quarantined ship.

[K32682]

13 hours ago, mom says said:

A Hong Kong owned cruise ship aimed at the Chinese market, full of crew and pax from China and Hong Kong. Who didn't see that coming?

 

And the other ship is in Asia and I believe had previously stopped at Hong Kong.  Meanwhile hundreds of cruise ships continue their itineraires elsewhere in the world.  Some people need to get a grip.  While I'd probably cancel a cruise to Asia I would not do the same for a cruise in another region.  

 

Edited February 6, 2020 by K32682

[Harry Peterson]

1 minute ago, K32682 said:

 

And the other ship is in Asia and I believe had previously stopped at Hong Kong.  Meanwhile hundreds of cruise ships continue their itineraires elsewhere in the world.  Some people need to get a grip.  While I'd probably cancel a cruise to Asia I would not do the same for a cruise in another region.  

 

We all take different views of the speed and extent of the virus’ spread, and the likely impact, don’t we.

 

No right and wrong answers, because nobody has a crystal ball, but I’m mightily glad my 2020 cruises in Europe have been cancelled.

[obnurse]

Am I AFRAID of Coronavirus? No. Am I CONCERNED about Coronavirus? Absolutely. I'm also concerned about influenza, Noro and anything else that can be spread when large numbers of people from all over the world gather. We will take the necessary precautions to do our best to stay uncontaminated. I had H1N1 influenza and I was scary sick. I lost of month of work and had pneumonia.  I can certainly see why it kills vulnerable population. The flu is not a "cold." Patients become very ill very quickly with high fevers and respiratory compromise.  I appreciate the public service announcement!  Be mindful of washing your hands, keep them away from your face, use the restroom in your own cabin whenever possible. Please don't enter the eating venues without cleaning your hands! Remember, the dirtiest place on the ship are elevator buttons, stair rails, etc. If you leave your cabin with clean hands and then touch the elevator button.....you're hands are dirty! The health you're protecting is yours and that of everyone else. 

[ed01106]

I am less concerned about actually catching it then I am about my travel being disrupted due to a quarantine.  Odds of catching it are low, the odds of dying of it minuscule but the odds of having the ship quarantined is growing with this happening to 3 cruise ships this week. 

[bonsai3s]

With a few cruises booked, yes we are concerned and wouldn't want to be on a ship that's quarantined.

Watching and monitoring the news like everyone else.  We don't plan on cancelling any cruises and if the cruise line cancels it...then so be it. 

 

Note: Saw the picture of the family of 4, Diamond Princess, sharing an inside cabin...I would go crazy stuck in there for 14 days quarantined.  Fortunately, it has been reported that they are escorted outside of their cabins to take walks and get some fresh air.

[KnowTheScore]

2 hours ago, bonsai3s said:

With a few cruises booked, yes we are concerned and wouldn't want to be on a ship that's quarantined.

Watching and monitoring the news like everyone else.  We don't plan on cancelling any cruises and if the cruise line cancels it...then so be it. 

 

Note: Saw the picture of the family of 4, Diamond Princess, sharing an inside cabin...I would go crazy stuck in there for 14 days quarantined.  Fortunately, it has been reported that they are escorted outside of their cabins to take walks and get some fresh air.

 

 

Very pleased to hear that.   It makes sense to do it.  Fresh air and a little sunshine are precious comforts esp in such a dire situation.

 

Unlike you I am planning to cancel a number of cruises, not because I think there's a huge risk of there being Coronavirus on-board but rather because it's a nailed on certainty that there will be people displaying cold/flu symptoms throughout any cruise and when that happens the Coronavirus protocols will be followed, the person isolated for testing and whilst the testing is going on passengers will imo likely be refused permission to disembark at ports.    It is what it is.   I personally don't want to spend £000s on a cruise that is unlikely to let me get off at ports along the itinerary.   That situation I believe will get worse as the virus spreads globally.  So I will save my money for the time being and assess the situation as the year progresses.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gershep]

I am concerned enough so I'm putting off booking the two cruises I wanted to take.

[newcruiser1956]

19 hours ago, ilikeanswers said:

 

No they are not being charged anything, but service is limited. As someone said check out the Princess forum and also this FB page:

David Abel

 

He has been posting regular video describing life on the quarantined ship.

Thanks for sharing that!  It was interesting listening to him!

[Globehoppers]

Interesting summary of viruses and cruising:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2020/02/06/how-cruise-ships-are-handling-mass-onboard-quarantines-new-coronavirus-spreads/?itid=hp_no-name_hp-in-the-news%3Apage%2Fin-the-news

 

[Christine13020]

7 hours ago, obnurse said:

Am I AFRAID of Coronavirus? No. Am I CONCERNED about Coronavirus? Absolutely. I'm also concerned about influenza, Noro and anything else that can be spread when large numbers of people from all over the world gather. We will take the necessary precautions to do our best to stay uncontaminated. I had H1N1 influenza and I was scary sick. I lost of month of work and had pneumonia.  I can certainly see why it kills vulnerable population. The flu is not a "cold." Patients become very ill very quickly with high fevers and respiratory compromise.  I appreciate the public service announcement!  Be mindful of washing your hands, keep them away from your face, use the restroom in your own cabin whenever possible. Please don't enter the eating venues without cleaning your hands! Remember, the dirtiest place on the ship are elevator buttons, stair rails, etc. If you leave your cabin with clean hands and then touch the elevator button.....you're hands are dirty! The health you're protecting is yours and that of everyone else. 

You forgot one important thing - if you catch cruise ship employees not enforcing their own health rules, document, report and if necessary LAWYER UP! The cruise line has a responsibility to keep their passengers safe. Also It’s completely unacceptable what is being done to healthy passengers on the Diamond, making them breathe air of the infectious in neighboring cabins. The healthy should be allowed to leave much like they evacuated Americans from Wuhan, the center of the outbreak.

[Markanddonna]

Strange: the government is allowing a patient with active coronavirus to self quarantine at home but the keep Americans who were evacuated but who are thus far healthy in mandatory quarantine. I am glad with the forced quarantine  situation.

[dethman]

have 8 more days to cancel my 3/16 cruise on costa smeralda for only a 50% penalty instead of 75.  will see how this plays out but i don't really feel like getting stuck on a ship without being able to get off ports or have the possibility of being in quarantine.

[K32682]

12 hours ago, Christine13020 said:

The cruise line has a responsibility to keep their passengers safe. Also It’s completely unacceptable what is being done to healthy passengers on the Diamond, making them breathe air of the infectious in neighboring cabins. The healthy should be allowed to leave much like they evacuated Americans from Wuhan, the center of the outbreak.

 

The cruise line would probably like nothing better than to get those people off healthy or otherwise.  It is the Japanese authorities who are requiring the quarantine.  The cruise line doesn't have much choice.  

[Hlitner]

I think the cruise lines are as much a victim as the passengers.  The big problem is there appears to be an incubation period of up to 2 weeks.  So even with several thousand trapped passengers seeming to be absolutely healthy, it will take about 2 weeks to be sure.  And now we have the Westerdam cruising between Taiwan and Okinawa in a situation where no port will accept the ship!  This, despite the fact that as of today there are no reported ill people on the ship.  Even Guam, a US Territory has so-far refused docking permission for the vessel.  HAL has just announced that the ship's Feb 15 cruise has been cancelled and one wonders where that ship will be next week.

 

Hank

[Christine13020]

1 hour ago, K32682 said:

 

 

The purpose of quarantine is isolation to prevent the spread of the virus so a cruise ship anchored in a bay is probably close to perfect for the task.   The Japanese health authorities would also want to limit the risk of exposure to their own population.  

 

Not to diminish the discomfort of the passengers but no one is going to die solely because they spent 14 days locked in a cabin.  Livid or otherwise the passengers who've not been infected will simply have to wait it out. 

You are ignorant of a important factor. No one knows how it spreads, it is incredibly contagious and many with compromised health could die.  In the meantime the infection is spreading and healthy are trapped in a dangerous environment. it’s more than inconvenient, their health and well being is at risk. The cruise line is only loosing money, the passenger’s health is at risk. I don’t blame anyone for wanting off. Why couldn’t they be quarantined on land (such as a military base?) which would be much safer? This is crazy, mini-epidemics on cruise ships are common place.

[Smiffy30]

YI'm going on a cruise next Friday to Mauritius and I'm getting myself in a panic over it my husband has a low immune system which doesn't help... I'm thinking of cancelling it but know I will loose my money really don't know what to do for the best 

 

[larrywizzit]

18 hours ago, Christine13020 said:

 The healthy should be allowed to leave much like they evacuated Americans from Wuhan, the center of the outbreak.

Except because of the incubation period, it takes 14 days to determine if one is in fact 'healthy'.

 

Hence the quarantine.

[K32682]

12 minutes ago, Christine13020 said:

You are ignorant of a important factor. No one knows how it spreads, it is incredibly contagious and many with compromised health could die.  In the meantime the infection is spreading and healthy are trapped in a dangerous environment. it’s more than inconvenient, their health and well being is at risk. The cruise line is only loosing money, the passenger’s health is at risk. I don’t blame anyone for wanting off. Why couldn’t they be quarantined on land (such as a military base?) which would be much safer? This is crazy, mini-epidemics on cruise ships are common place.

 

The only factor that matters is the Japanese are, quite reasonably, more interested in protecting their people than the people on the boat.   The safest move for the Japanese is to leave everyone where they are and moving only those who require treatment.  

[Hlitner]

20 hours ago, Gershep said:

I am concerned enough so I'm putting off booking the two cruises I wanted to take.

So consider your action to put off booking future cruises.  This Corona Virus situation will eventually stabilize and no longer be an issue....just like the old Sars bug.  But you will never have any guarantee that there will not be another virus outbreak and/or a major flu epidemic which has killed a lot more folks then Corona Viruses.  If one were to follow your logic they would never book another cruise or even book another land trip.  Lets face it.  Most of us book cruises and trips far in advance with zero knowledge of what the world situation will be at that future time.  It is just part of life.

 

Hank

[Christine13020]

1 minute ago, Hlitner said:

So consider your action to put off booking future cruises.  This Corona Virus situation will eventually stabilize and no longer be an issue....just like the old Sars bug.  But you will never have any guarantee that there will not be another virus outbreak and/or a major flu epidemic which has killed a lot more folks then Corona Viruses.  If one were to follow your logic they would never book another cruise or even book another land trip.  Lets face it.  Most of us book cruises and trips far in advance with zero knowledge of what the world situation will be at that future time.  It is just part of life.

 

Hank

So tiresome people comparing this virus to the flu which many humans are likely to have natural immunity to and also many have been vaccinated. Novel corona virus is believed to have started in a wildlife market in Wuhan where species that would never interact in the wild are caged in close quarters in unsanitary conditions.  SARS was found to originate in bats that was transferred to civet cats via a market much like the one in Wuhan. The virus has jumped the species barrier and I guarantee your body has no natural defenses. These markets should be shut down, China did not learn any lessons from SARS.

[larrywizzit]

1 minute ago, Christine13020 said:

These markets should be shut down, China did not learn any lessons from SARS.

Oddly, someexperts are saying otherwise (http://theconversation.com/why-shutting-down-chinese-wet-markets-could-be-a-terrible-mistake-130625)

 

' A permanent shutdown of “wet markets” would affect patterns of food consumption in ways that are unknowable but potentially harmful to public health. It would deprive Chinese consumers of a food sector that accounts for 30-59% of their food supplies. Due to the large number of farmers, traders and consumers involved, the abolition of “wet markets” is also likely to lead to an explosion of an uncontrollable black market, as it did when such a ban was attempted in 2003, in response to SARS, as well as in 2013-14, in response to avian influenza H7N9 '

 

[Christine13020]

18 minutes ago, larrywizzit said:

Oddly, someexperts are saying otherwise (http://theconversation.com/why-shutting-down-chinese-wet-markets-could-be-a-terrible-mistake-130625)

 

' A permanent shutdown of “wet markets” would affect patterns of food consumption in ways that are unknowable but potentially harmful to public health. It would deprive Chinese consumers of a food sector that accounts for 30-59% of their food supplies. Due to the large number of farmers, traders and consumers involved, the abolition of “wet markets” is also likely to lead to an explosion of an uncontrollable black market, as it did when such a ban was attempted in 2003, in response to SARS, as well as in 2013-14, in response to avian influenza H7N9 '

 

Be careful, this guy is not an epidemiologist. The practice is fundamentally unsafe.