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If Royal Requires A Covid-19 Vaccine Before Cruising Will You Get It???


If Royal Requires A Covid-19 Vaccine Before Cruising Will You Get It???  

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  1. 1. If Royal Requires A Covid-19 Vaccine Before Cruising Will You Get It So You Can Cruise Again?

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12 hours ago, CaroleSS said:

Hey.....how about having a shot of dirt with dinner every night of the cruise!

 

ummm, well, maybe not! 🤪

It’s funny you say that. Have you heard of the Hygiene Hypothesis? It basically concerns living in areas of high level sanitation where a lack of exposure to germs can harm the immune system leading to more autoimmune and allergy issues. It’s directed particularly at children as they are developing their immune system but I do wonder what all of our COVID precautions for an extended period could be doing to all of our abilities to fight serious illnesses (and of course the children who have been in development over the last year). There are tons of articles / research on it but I’ll post a few here. 

 

https://health.usnews.com/wellness/articles/hygiene-hypothesis-could-more-dirt-and-germs-boost-your-health

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29034905/

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11 hours ago, Pizzasteve said:

Where did I express hatred? Please do not put words in my mouth.  Many people want to make excuses for selfish acts. Japan has had less than 10k deaths, much more dense living conditions, exposed earlier and worse in the worlds most congested city.  I lived there, we wore masks.

 

Many, not all, Americans whine and complain about a simple, effective health care action that is a minor inconvenience at worst, and so we had more die in a year than all our world wars combined.  It is indefensible to be anti mask.  I never said if no one is around and one is outdoors that a mask is needed, but these kind of straw men are made by people seeking excuses for their own actions, not a real situation they care to discuss with civility.  You know perfectly well your intention when you complain about masks or make fun of people who leave them on while outdoors to be extra careful.  Some of these people have serious  conditions and have a genuine need to protect themselves. Yet you would make fun of that.  I know because a friend of my sister did and she died last month because her husband was careless once and brought covid home. She wore a mask even outdoors because a case of covid was a death sentence.  Her husband regrets his carelessness more than you can imagine.  Go ahead, make fun of her for wearing a mask when outdoors.  She is dead, cant hurt her.  She died within a week of being able to get her vaccine.

 

PS, regarding the IV, the difference between physical droplets on a surface (larger quantities) and the airbourn virus is quite distinct for exposure.  This is why time in the location, vents and if with same person matters so much for indoors exposure, even if masked and why n95 is needed for extented contact indoors (like medical staff) but brief time at a grocery store a cloth mask is likely fine. Cruise ships are problems because people stay put and are indoors for extended time frames, like meetings at work.  Even good masks become not great if you are in a room with someone for hours and hours, with bad vents, sharing the same air.

Cool.  The person you vented on is a medical doctor.  Probably doing his share to stop the pandemic, and his small portion of making the world a better place.  I am sure his efforts pale in comparison to yours, but still a positive contributor to the world.  

 

Many people want to shame and force others to do the things they think they should do.  We, for now, live in a free republic where people are allowed freedom of choice, and they still have the right to be stupid.

 

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23 hours ago, SNJCruisers said:

But if unvaccinated passengers are allowed on board, that would increase the probability that masks would be needed.  Are you that against a shot to have to put up with wearing a mask?

I will not wear a mask either, no enjoyment from that.

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I agree with the sentiment - not really thrilled at the idea of masking during a cruise, but it might turn out to be what some of our local bus lines advertise right on the door..."no mask, no ride". Let's face it...this is just NOT going to return to the carefree form of cruising we all miss. It's just not going to happen - not anytime soon. 

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5 hours ago, CaroleSS said:

Also, there is a certain allowable amount of "food defects" allowed in your food. What is allowed will show you just how "dirty" our lives are!

 

Peanut butter is one of the most controlled foods in the FDA list; an average of one or more rodent hairs and 30 (or so) insect fragments are allowed for every 100 grams, which is 3.5 ounces.

 

The typical serving size for peanut butter is 2 tablespoons (unless you slather). That means each 2 tablespoon-peanut butter sandwich would only have about eight insect fragments and a teensy tiny bit of rodent filth. (“Filth” is what the FDA calls these insect and rodent food defects.)


Good thing we have immune systems!

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/04/health/insect-rodent-filth-in-food-wellness/index.html

 

OMG...... I LOVE peanut butter. You've ruined it for me now.

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48 minutes ago, Sky616 said:

I will not wear a mask either, no enjoyment from that.

Well aware of your stance from your  previous posts.  I seriously doubt that any cruise line is going to have a no vaccine no mask policy in the short term.  This would not occur till herd immunity is reached and if it does at all it won't  be till sometime in 2022.

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1 minute ago, SNJCruisers said:

Well aware of your stance from your  previous posts.  I seriously doubt that any cruise line is going to have a no vaccine no mask policy in the short term.  This would not occur till herd immunity is reached and if it does at all it won't  be till sometime in 2022.

That's fine, I'll wait.  Wasn't planning on a cruise until 2023.  Too many good land trips I've found to go on the next two years.

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3 minutes ago, Sky616 said:

That's fine, I'll wait.  Wasn't planning on a cruise until 2023.  Too many good land trips I've found to go on the next two years.

Totally your prerogative.  But why then are you on here with your flag firmly planted in the ground arguing with people over various Covid related topics when you are not going to be cruising  for two years when vaccinations, masks, etc will hopefully be in our rear view mirror?

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They have been reporting on the National News that 65% of those over 65 in the US  have been vaccinated and 28% of the adult population in the US have also had at least one shot.  Those numbers sound way too high to me

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11 minutes ago, molly361 said:

They have been reporting on the National News that 65% of those over 65 in the US  have been vaccinated and 28% of the adult population in the US have also had at least one shot.  Those numbers sound way too high to me

Here is a link to the current CDC data. The 65% is not the fully vaccinated number - it is for those 65 or older having had at least one shot. The roll-out is really picking up steam

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On 7/21/2020 at 2:38 PM, julesbeara said:

If Royal Requires A Covid-19 Vaccine Before Cruising Will You Get It???

Add me to the yes category, just got the J & J shot last weekend. Ready to go when you are, Royal Caribbean (or CCL, or MSC, or NCL, or whomever I can book with first 😆). 

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9 hours ago, CaroleSS said:

Also, there is a certain allowable amount of "food defects" allowed in your food. What is allowed will show you just how "dirty" our lives are!

 

Peanut butter is one of the most controlled foods in the FDA list; an average of one or more rodent hairs and 30 (or so) insect fragments are allowed for every 100 grams, which is 3.5 ounces.

 

The typical serving size for peanut butter is 2 tablespoons (unless you slather). That means each 2 tablespoon-peanut butter sandwich would only have about eight insect fragments and a teensy tiny bit of rodent filth. (“Filth” is what the FDA calls these insect and rodent food defects.)


Good thing we have immune systems!

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/04/health/insect-rodent-filth-in-food-wellness/index.html

 

🤮🤮🤮 I always knew there was a certain amount of crap aka bugs, rodents allowed in food. Now that you have given specifics and used peanut butter as an example I’m not sure I will be able to eat it again. I’ll see peanut butter and all I will be able to see is your post. 🤮🤣🤣🤣

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18 minutes ago, ReneeFLL said:

🤮🤮🤮 I always knew there was a certain amount of crap aka bugs, rodents allowed in food. Now that you have given specifics and used peanut butter as an example I’m not sure I will be able to eat it again. I’ll see peanut butter and all I will be able to see is your post. 🤮🤣🤣🤣

What you should see is an opportunity for your body to protect itself. 😎

 

In other countries they eat things we would never consider eating.....they see bugs (worms, grubs, scorpions) as an additional source of protein. Once (note the word ONCE) we ate fried crickets!

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59 minutes ago, ReneeFLL said:

🤮🤮🤮 I always knew there was a certain amount of crap aka bugs, rodents allowed in food. Now that you have given specifics and used peanut butter as an example I’m not sure I will be able to eat it again. I’ll see peanut butter and all I will be able to see is your post. 🤮🤣🤣🤣

Nah.....Earlier I thought I could never enjoy peanut butter again. I decided I'm going to go for the gusto. Having my sliced apple with warm (microwaved) Smuckers natural peanut butter tonight as my snack. I sweeten the jar of peanut butter with Stevia. Soooooo good!

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On 3/16/2021 at 10:01 PM, Pizzasteve said:

When I lived in Japan in the 80s people routinely wore masks when bugs were about and thought nothing of it.  Not tough enough to stand a bit of paper or cloth on your face?  Sad really.  Talk about snowflakes. People need to understand how this virus propagates and what the masks are for, but even after a year and half a million Americans dead, more than all wars combined, people dont seem to get it.

Surprised at your assertion.  I lived in a Tokyo suburb in the early 90s and only people who were sick wore masks.  I'd say fewer than 1%.  Where did you live that "people routinely wore masks"?

 

Your assumption comes across as arrogant.  Maybe you didn't mean it that way.  Social distancing is effective in combating a virus.  Improperly worn pieces of cloth masks are not.  I'm not going to shame someone for believing that the thin piece of underwear is helping them; it's their right to make that determination, even if wrong.  It's not about "toughness" on either side; it's about respect for other people's decisions.

 

Just got back from northern Florida and then Dallas.  It was wonderfully freeing to be back in areas that are open, where some choose to wear masks (or are required by their companies) and some don't.  Wishing my state would follow.

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9 hours ago, kccrzr said:

That seems very high to me.  Though it shows the percentage as the whole of the population, I'm wondering if it's actually the percentage of people who want the vaccination and have been able to get it.  That, or maybe there are areas with near 100% compliance to offset others where compliance is low.

 

Sad that I no longer feel that I can trust the numbers coming out of the CDC :-(

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51 minutes ago, Incognito1 said:

That seems very high to me. 

Which number? 23% for first jab and 12% for fully vaccinated doesn't seem high. 

 

Biker, who found it interesting that the vaccination rate is started to flatten in Israel now that the first jab % has passed 70.

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The 66% of people over 65 seems high to me.  But I live in an area where there are few deaths reported as COVID-related, and people do not seem eager to get the vaccination.  It may be that there are other areas where it nears 100% and that offsets places where it's not as common.

 

The map is pretty interesting to me.  I'm surprised that South Dakota shows up as one of the higher vaccinated states while California is one of the lowest.  Odd to me.

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Ah.  Was not aware of that, but I guess much of California is rural anyway.  Did a little digging and found out why SD, though.  It's due mostly to vax at the VA hospitals and clinics, which is also where most of the positive PCR tests are.  That makes sense.

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1 hour ago, Incognito1 said:

That seems very high to me.  Though it shows the percentage as the whole of the population, I'm wondering if it's actually the percentage of people who want the vaccination and have been able to get it.  That, or maybe there are areas with near 100% compliance to offset others where compliance is low.

 

Sad that I no longer feel that I can trust the numbers coming out of the CDC 😞

Agree about CDC can go either way I'm skeptical. Over 100 Million in shots is accurate, Govt stated sitting on over 10 Million inc Astra that can't be used, so Millions offered to Mexico & Canada by Biden Admin. Rest of Delivered totals easy to see numbers close/Matching. In 12 days had 10 places call or text me see if I wanted schedule my Vaccine. Two places still had many appts 2 days later, 3 others(Counties) were scheduling appt's choose from available for next 3 weeks

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3 hours ago, Incognito1 said:

Surprised at your assertion.  I lived in a Tokyo suburb in the early 90s and only people who were sick wore masks.  I'd say fewer than 1%.  Where did you live that "people routinely wore masks"?

 

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Working at a major international airport it was common over the years to see folk from the far east wearing masks.  Use to think it was kinda weird, but I get it now 

This time last year, those last few weeks I was at work was very surreal, dealing with some pax wearing full hazmat suits for instance.  Maybe this is one of the reasons why countries such as Singapore, Japan or South Korea have not suffered as badly during this pandemic as we have here in the UK, though compliance is pretty high over here with wearing of face masks indoors  

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4 hours ago, Incognito1 said:

That seems very high to me.  Though it shows the percentage as the whole of the population, I'm wondering if it's actually the percentage of people who want the vaccination and have been able to get it.  That, or maybe there are areas with near 100% compliance to offset others where compliance is low.

 

Sad that I no longer feel that I can trust the numbers coming out of the CDC 😞

If you add those that don't want to get vaccinated and are over  65 we are close to being done with that age group. Seems off to me as well

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