Rare GeorgeCharlie Posted September 20, 2022 #1 Share Posted September 20, 2022 The expected relaxation of COVID-19 requirements appears to be coming. An article in The Globe and Mail outlines what they feel is going to happen. "The federal government plans to drop the COVID-19 vaccine requirement for people who enter Canada by the end of September, the same day it ends random testing of arrivals and makes optional the ArriveCan app, The Globe and Mail has learned. The changes, for arrivals at land, air and sea ports of entry, are planned for Sept. 30, but have yet to be finalized by cabinet, according to four sources The Globe is not naming because they are not authorized to speak publicly on the matter. The mask requirement for people on trains and planes will remain in place, at the direction of Health Minister Jean-Yves Duclos, according to two of the sources. The aviation and travel industries have been pushing the government to relax the rules that cover international travel, saying they discourage visitors and are out of step with many other countries as the pandemic eases. The United States requires all entrants to be vaccinated, and it is not known if the requirement will be lifted at the same time as Canada’s." Canada to make ArriveCan optional, drop COVID-19 vaccine requirement at the border by Sept. 30: sources - The Globe and Mail 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted September 20, 2022 #2 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) Well, that took a bit longer than I expected, but there are still cruises to Alaska in October that maybe able to benefit from the reduced restrictions if the cruise lines elect to update their protocols. Edited September 20, 2022 by BermudaBound2014 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julia Posted September 20, 2022 #3 Share Posted September 20, 2022 I've been following this closely on several news outlets, as we're scheduled to test with OnPoint on the 30th, fly to Vancouver on the 1st, and sail on the 2nd of October. Fingers crossed. 🤞🙏 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted September 20, 2022 #4 Share Posted September 20, 2022 40 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said: Well, that took a bit longer than I expected, That’s funny because I thought the opposite. lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare GeorgeCharlie Posted September 20, 2022 Author #5 Share Posted September 20, 2022 You may not have to get tested in order to get into Canada, but unfortunately, there is a good chance the cruise lines will keep in place the requirement of a negative test prior to boarding. For now, it is still good PR against all the negative press regarding cruising which still exists!! 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveOKC Posted September 20, 2022 #6 Share Posted September 20, 2022 There is a Panama Canal cruise leaving Vancouver on Oct 9, and I hope the testing requirement is gone by then! Its on the Eurodam. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted September 20, 2022 #7 Share Posted September 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, GeorgeCharlie said: You may not have to get tested in order to get into Canada, but unfortunately, there is a good chance the cruise lines will keep in place the requirement of a negative test prior to boarding. For now, it is still good PR against all the negative press regarding cruising which still exists!! Respectfully disagree. Cruise lines have removed the testing requirement for all destinations that do not require it. Why would they keep it just for Canada? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted September 20, 2022 #8 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, BermudaBound2014 said: Well, that took a bit longer than I expected I wonder how long until the U.S. drops its requirement for visitors entering the country to be vaccinated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ Knowles Posted September 20, 2022 #9 Share Posted September 20, 2022 And of course we fjy into Montreal on September 30. 😄 Cruising on Zaandam October 1-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted September 20, 2022 #10 Share Posted September 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, westcoaster said: I wonder how long until the U.S. drops its requirement for visitors entering the country to be vaccinated. That was the first question I asked myself when the President declared that covid is over. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolcruise02 Posted September 21, 2022 #11 Share Posted September 21, 2022 I flew in and out of Canada on the 10th & 17th. (Dallas to Calgary & back) No one asked to see my ArriveCan QR code at either airport. Is that normal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted September 21, 2022 #12 Share Posted September 21, 2022 26 minutes ago, Coolcruise02 said: I flew in and out of Canada on the 10th & 17th. (Dallas to Calgary & back) No one asked to see my ArriveCan QR code at either airport. Is that normal? I have traveled quite a bit this year and have kept my mouth shut but I have rarely been asked to show any documentation including test results. I think I have been asked 3 times out of 15 or so where I should have been asked. The three were embarking in Fort Lauderdale, embarking in Montreal and flying to the US from the Netherlands. All other intermediate requirements or other locations I was given a wink and a nod. As a matter of fact all of my Covid tests were a wink and a nod. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted September 21, 2022 #13 Share Posted September 21, 2022 52 minutes ago, Coolcruise02 said: I flew in and out of Canada on the 10th & 17th. (Dallas to Calgary & back) No one asked to see my ArriveCan QR code at either airport. Is that normal? Yes, that’s normal. The CBSA already sees it attached to your passport electronically, so no need to ask for it. If you did VeriFLY they can see it there electronically. On our cruise last week we were asked to not only show it via VeriFLY, but to write it down on a form they left in our room and drop it at Guest Services or leave it for the room steward. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare The-Inside-Cabin Posted September 21, 2022 #14 Share Posted September 21, 2022 56 minutes ago, Coolcruise02 said: I flew in and out of Canada on the 10th & 17th. (Dallas to Calgary & back) No one asked to see my ArriveCan QR code at either airport. Is that normal? If you filled out Arrive Can then it is linked to your passport and they don't need to see the QR code separately. But they do know if you completed ArriveCan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolcruise02 Posted September 21, 2022 #15 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Thanks for all the responses. I guess I read somewhere that we would have to show or scan the QR code at some point. As far as the VeriFly, I gave up on that app when we went to Amsterdam in June. Everything I read said we had to use it and even got an email from our airline. I tried and gave up! No one asked for it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKJonesy Posted September 21, 2022 #16 Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 hours ago, westcoaster said: I wonder how long until the U.S. drops its requirement for visitors entering the country to be vaccinated. I wonder if they are checking vaccine cards for all of those people crossing our southern border. Just a little tongue in cheek. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted September 21, 2022 #17 Share Posted September 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Coolcruise02 said: I flew in and out of Canada on the 10th & 17th. (Dallas to Calgary & back) No one asked to see my ArriveCan QR code at either airport. Is that normal? 3 hours ago, The-Inside-Cabin said: If you filled out Arrive Can then it is linked to your passport and they don't need to see the QR code separately. But they do know if you completed ArriveCan Funny thing...I drove across the border from Skagway last week and I was not asked to prove vaccination. It wasn't until later that day I realized I also did not file an ArriveCan for that border crossing. My active ArriveCan was reflective of our Victoria stop several days later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margail1 Posted September 21, 2022 #18 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Hi We have just been advised by Holland America we need a PCR test 72 hours before embarkation in Vancouver on 2nd October. It seems this will cost us upward of $300 if we can find a suitable testing venue. We are flying in from Australia on 28th September. What do you advise??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Btimmer Posted September 21, 2022 #19 Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, margail1 said: Hi We have just been advised by Holland America we need a PCR test 72 hours before embarkation in Vancouver on 2nd October. It seems this will cost us upward of $300 if we can find a suitable testing venue. We are flying in from Australia on 28th September. What do you advise??? Use a proctored Antigen test (Emed, Total Testing Solutions, etc.). The maximum cost is less than $30 per person. These tests generally need to be completed within 48 hours of embarkation as opposed to the PCR test. We are boarding in Seattle on 10/2 and will be using the proctored Emed.com test. Edited September 21, 2022 by Btimmer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakridger Posted September 21, 2022 #20 Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) Oops, replied at the same time as @Btimmer!! Hello @margail1. Are you embarking on the Panama Canal cruise on the Nieuw Amsterdam or Noordam on October 2nd? I'm getting ready to leave early tomorrow, so can't dig deeper to help you but start here: If you are vaccinated, Canada will also accept a rapid antigen test within two days of embarkation. (See the ArriveCAN official Canada requirements in the link below.) You could do one online with your own approved covid test which is what I'm doing. ($18 plus test kit cost which was free from US government at OnPoint Testing site) or go to one of the covid test sites in Vancouver. Google will list them. The rapid antigen tests are much cheaper than PCR. COVID-19: Cruise ship travel requirements – Travel.gc.ca Travel to Canada: Requirements for COVID-19 vaccinated travellers Here's a link to the roll calls for Noordam and Nieuw Amsterdam. If not already on it I suggest reading it because it should have lots of info on the requirements for ArriveCAN and the pre boarding testing info. Good luck and if you are on Nieuw Amsterdam, I'll see you on the 2nd!! ~Nancy Edited September 21, 2022 by oakridger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coquitlam Cruiser Posted September 21, 2022 #21 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, margail1 said: Hi We have just been advised by Holland America we need a PCR test 72 hours before embarkation in Vancouver on 2nd October. It seems this will cost us upward of $300 if we can find a suitable testing venue. We are flying in from Australia on 28th September. What do you advise??? Life centers.ca offers a proctored test $30.00 Cdn. You have to supply your own test kit. Available free from most pharmacies in Vancouver. Need to have a tablet etc in order to view the test. Results in about 1/2 hour. You will be asking for the Rapid Antigen and not the PCR test. Suggest you book soon. September 29 is a good date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Roz Posted September 21, 2022 #22 Share Posted September 21, 2022 9 hours ago, julia said: I've been following this closely on several news outlets, as we're scheduled to test with OnPoint on the 30th, fly to Vancouver on the 1st, and sail on the 2nd of October. Fingers crossed. 🤞🙏 Keeping fingers crossed with you, as we've stressed over this for the past month. 😣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffElizabeth Posted September 21, 2022 #23 Share Posted September 21, 2022 13 hours ago, BermudaBound2014 said: Well, that took a bit longer than I expected, but there are still cruises to Alaska in October that maybe able to benefit from the reduced restrictions if the cruise lines elect to update their protocols. This will help on our cruise to Hawaii from Vancouver in October. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted September 21, 2022 #24 Share Posted September 21, 2022 11 hours ago, BermudaBound2014 said: Respectfully disagree. Cruise lines have removed the testing requirement for all destinations that do not require it. Why would they keep it just for Canada? Respectfully disagree - you are in error. Testing is required on our cruise embarking in Spain. Spain does not require testing to enter. The “reason” is that it’s a trans ocean cruise however neither the country we embark in nor the country we disembark in require testing. So the cruise line can still require testing if they deem it necessary. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted September 21, 2022 #25 Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 hours ago, kazu said: Respectfully disagree - you are in error. Testing is required on our cruise embarking in Spain. Spain does not require testing to enter. The “reason” is that it’s a trans ocean cruise however neither the country we embark in nor the country we disembark in require testing. So the cruise line can still require testing if they deem it necessary. That certainly wouldn't be the first time I've been in error. Thanks for pointing to another possibility. For clarity; are you sure that your cruise does not stop at any destination requiring pre-testing? Cruise ships have been requiring testing IF any country on the itinerary requires testing (not just embarkation and debarkation ports). Example, does your cruise stop in Bermuda (or currently Canada) which are some of the very last destinations with any protocols left at all? Another possible reason is that Spain DOES require pre-testing for anyone without a vaccination. So maybe that plays into your itineraries unique requirement? Also, some cruise lines have required testing for trans-ocean cruises presumably because passengers are spending so much time away from access to advanced health care. A unique itinerary with unique protocols. I would never argue that cruise lines CAN still require testing if they deem it necessary, but I think it's important to point out that they have NOT deemed it necessary in 99% of itineraries sailing. I suspect cruise ship requirements for Canada will fall in line with the 99% but time will tell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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