Man Overboard on Carnival Valor found alive

[KarmaCruisers]

2 hours ago, icft said:

He's old enough to be on his own and they perhaps thought he got lucky.

That’d have to be the WORST..unless maybe on the last night..I can only imagine beer goggles…then being stuck on the same boat as that person for the next X amount of days…

if “hook ups” are really a thing on a (normal) cruise..then…call me mindblown. (I understand “speciality” cruises)

[Ellaleah]

I can’t be the only doubter out here.  Anyone who has cruised knows that it is not so easy to go overboard.  It would be very difficult, but not nearly as difficult as treading water for 20 hours when not sober.  This story does not ring true on so many levels!

[DirtyDawg]

7 hours ago, broberts said:

 

People don't get lucky at sea?

Speak for yourself. Even after 30+ years of marriage I still get lucky at sea! And multiple times each and every cruise! 🥳 🥳 🥳

 

Gotta love those casinos! 😉

 

 

Edited December 10, 2022 by DirtyDawg

[ledges1]

This guy is not going to tell the truth. His family was incapacitated from being up late and drinking. They probably slept to 11:00 AM the next morning and did not miss him until Noon. If they told the truth, they may all look look less than intelligent. The guy has said God saved him for a reason. He should start by telling the truth.

[tweak89]

2 hours ago, ledges1 said:

This guy is not going to tell the truth. His family was incapacitated from being up late and drinking. They probably slept to 11:00 AM the next morning and did not miss him until Noon. If they told the truth, they may all look look less than intelligent. The guy has said God saved him for a reason. He should start by telling the truth.

 

Bet the "truth" will come out when he files a lawsuit trying to blame Carnival.  

[evandbob]

Most everyone assumes the brother and sister were booked in the same room, and then question the delay in reporting him missing.

 

What if they had separate cabins far apart or even on different decks?

[kelkel2]

6 minutes ago, evandbob said:

Most everyone assumes the brother and sister were booked in the same room, and then question the delay in reporting him missing.

 

What if they had separate cabins far apart or even on different decks?

I agree. Although I think the whole situation is fishy, I do agree that it’s very possible they weren’t in the same room. And honestly, my first assumption was that she maybe thought he went “home” with another cruiser? Maybe it wasn’t until the afternoon that she realized he hadn’t hooked up with someone and was actually missing. It’s hard to know. 

[1kaper]

16 hours ago, KarmaCruisers said:

That’d have to be the WORST..unless maybe on the last night..I can only imagine beer goggles…then being stuck on the same boat as that person for the next X amount of days…

if “hook ups” are really a thing on a (normal) cruise..then…call me mindblown. (I understand “speciality” cruises)

 

There was a TikTok about a post in a Carnival roll called on another social media site where a guy was letting a few of the women he hooked up with know they should go get tested. Could be a troll post but never know. 
 

I don’t doubt people hook up at all. Lots of single people on the ship. There was a guy we chatted with one night who I know was traveling alone. Last couple nights I saw him with a woman who I’d seen around and definitely wasn’t with him at first. They seemed pretty friendly. I just assumed they found a boatmance. 

[BlerkOne]

It's obvious the sister hooked up with someone and didn't notice until the next day bro was gone.

[Illbcruzn4life]

1 hour ago, BlerkOne said:

It's obvious the sister hooked up with someone and didn't notice until the next day bro was gone.

finally a logical explanation!

[Pellaz]

I'm curious as to why the Valor's man-overboard sensors didn't detect him going overboard.   The Conquest-class all seem to have the sensors; you can identify them by looking for the word "FLIR."

[shof515]

3 hours ago, Pellaz said:

I'm curious as to why the Valor's man-overboard sensors didn't detect him going overboard.   The Conquest-class all seem to have the sensors; you can identify them by looking for the word "FLIR."

FLIR is a brand of thermal imaging sensors. this may and may not be the man overboard sensors.

 

[chengkp75]

6 hours ago, Pellaz said:

I'm curious as to why the Valor's man-overboard sensors didn't detect him going overboard.   The Conquest-class all seem to have the sensors; you can identify them by looking for the word "FLIR."

While the ships do have infrared sensors, that is no indication that there is an automated man overboard (MOB) system.  As far as I can remember, only Disney went fleetwide with automatic MOB systems.  The IR sensors are most likely fed to the surveillance office, where every camera on the ship is scrolled through on a multi-image screen every 10 seconds or so, so unless there was a sharp eyed surveillance officer who caught the glimpse of the person going overboard, at that instant, it is merely recorded for later investigation, just like all the video. 

[momof3cruisers]

On 12/4/2022 at 2:43 PM, chengkp75 said:

Using average statistics, anyone less than 5'10" (for a male) has their center of gravity below the top of the handrail, so he would have had to hop up while leaning over to fall over the rail.  That is why the rail heights are set that way.

 

My boys are each over six feet and a few years ago, they did an experiment to see if they could fall over a ship railing. (Not on a ship, they  aren’t stupid. 🤡 They set up a contraption outside as I recall.) They couldn’t do it without concerted effort. That’s why these falling overboard stories always make me wonder. 

[momof3cruisers]

On 11/26/2022 at 11:28 PM, CruizinSusan70 said:

She was one of the original card carrying members of the me generation.

 

Listen—she worked hard for that Platinum/Diamond perk. She EARNED that door and didn’t want to share it!

[CruizinSusan70]

1 hour ago, momof3cruisers said:

Listen—she worked hard for that Platinum/Diamond perk. She EARNED that door and didn’t want to share it!

Didn't realize there were Platinum and Diamond perks on the Titanic.  She only earned that door because of her status and didn't want to share it with someone from steerage.  She obviously did not love him and was only concerned with her own well being and survival.

[Pellaz]

18 hours ago, chengkp75 said:

While the ships do have infrared sensors, that is no indication that there is an automated man overboard (MOB) system.  As far as I can remember, only Disney went fleetwide with automatic MOB systems.  The IR sensors are most likely fed to the surveillance office, where every camera on the ship is scrolled through on a multi-image screen every 10 seconds or so, so unless there was a sharp eyed surveillance officer who caught the glimpse of the person going overboard, at that instant, it is merely recorded for later investigation, just like all the video. 

On another Conquest-class ship (either the Freedom or the Conquest herself), the MOB alert panel on the bridge was pointed out to us during a Behind the Fun tour.  It was on the back wall of the portside bridge wing, and I'm curious if there was another panel on the starboard side.   I remember the FLIR sensors I saw were mounted on the corners in the back, and looked like they could "cover" the back of the ship as well as the sides looking forward.  

 

[BlerkOne]

12 hours ago, momof3cruisers said:

My boys are each over six feet and a few years ago, they did an experiment to see if they could fall over a ship railing. (Not on a ship, they  aren’t stupid. 🤡 They set up a contraption outside as I recall.) They couldn’t do it without concerted effort. That’s why these falling overboard stories always make me wonder. 

If you watch youtube videos of drunk people doing stupid things, it's easier to imagine.

[1kaper]

I just saw an interview with the guy. He said he had been drinking earlier in the day but didn’t know how many. He doesn’t remember leaving to go to the bathroom. Doesn’t remember falling over.  He says he was unconscious in the water.  When he came to there was no sign of the boat. 
He stripped his clothes off in the water. 
 

He also won the air guitar contest earlier that day. 

[MeganGC1983]

Lots of shipmances happen on board. In the middle of our whale watching in PV on the Panorama, I witnessed a guy go off on 2 other people, I didn’t even know he knew. Apparently, they were a work group of 8, on the cruise, and the 2 had disowned another younger co-worker who was “getting around” on the cruise ship. This was only day 3. I saw the younger girl a few more times during the cruise with a few different guys at different ship bars. 

It’s not my things, but I think it happens a lot just like on land. You gotta be careful especially with that extra element of the ocean looming below. I’ve had a lot to drink at sea, but never where I was even close to “falling” off the ship.