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#41
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Originally posted by DrivesLikeMario
I totally agree with that and for that reason, it has no appeal to me.
Usually I book the obstructed view OV cabin mid aft or least expensive balcony mid-aft and hope for an free or cheap upgrade. I will be happy with what I booked but have that hope waiting for the cruise. Last two out of three cruises I have been successful in being up graded but only to a balcony cabin or better positioned balcony cabin.

This time I decided for my ??th birthday to splurge and not book my regular low-end balcony but a club class mini-suite on the Royal. It was only $150 more per day to do that. So now I have the extra room in a great location with a "bigger" balcony. But the main reason I want to try it is for the dining arrangements.

Was on the Ruby last September to Alaska and had anytime dining as I wanted to try it. What a disaster! I thought you didn't need reservations and could go anytime, right? Wrong! The first night we went, they were full and not able to take any more in that dining room and first asked us if we had a reservation!!!!!!! Seems for anytime dining you go the first day and make reservations for the rest of the cruise?! That sort of goes against the whole point of anytime dining, doesn't it? Anyway, they send us up a deck to traditional dining and we have to wait 20 minutes plus for them to get us in up there? So the thought that Club Class looks like it is a "real" anytime dining situation is the reason I want to try it. If it doesn't work than traditional dining is for me!

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#42
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Originally posted by Skai
Sure seems to be how it appears.

I'm trying to remember the last time I saw a waiter on Princess pull out a 'crumber' to sweep the table-cloth.
Our wait staff did so on my last cruise 5/28 -6/7 on Grand Princess, late seating of traditional dining.

One evening in Sabatini's, the table of 8 (four couples) all were in CC and they said they'd never sail any other way. They also were NOT in suites but rather CC mini-suites.
#43
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Originally posted by mellon1
They always comment when sweeping the crumbs that they are for their chickens! Try not to be too messy. It is the rolls that make the mess! YUMMO!
Pet peeve of mine is that they only seem to have the crusty rolls in the dining room, while upstairs in the buffet they have some real nice soft rolls.

Personally, my biggest concern with the CC dining is the impact it's having on the regular any time dining. From what I've heard a lot of these tables are sitting completely empty while people are getting turned away from any time dining because the restaurant is full. And then after some of the two-tops are done for a seating of any-time they turn them around to be used for club class, where they end up sitting empty while people can't get a table for two because this space is being wasted. Hopefully over time they'll learn how much they really need to keep in reserve, but it's still something that's being shoehorned into a space not designed for it.
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#44
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Originally posted by piper28
Pet peeve of mine is that they only seem to have the crusty rolls in the dining room, while upstairs in the buffet they have some real nice soft rolls.
I too hate those crusty hard rolls in the dining room! Finally my last Princess cruise, before club class was a thing, I asked if they had any softer rolls and our lovely waiter brought me a basket of the ones from the buffet.
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#45
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Originally posted by piper28
Pet peeve of mine is that they only seem to have the crusty rolls in the dining room, while upstairs in the buffet they have some real nice soft rolls.

Personally, my biggest concern with the CC dining is the impact it's having on the regular any time dining. From what I've heard a lot of these tables are sitting completely empty while people are getting turned away from any time dining because the restaurant is full. And then after some of the two-tops are done for a seating of any-time they turn them around to be used for club class, where they end up sitting empty while people can't get a table for two because this space is being wasted. Hopefully over time they'll learn how much they really need to keep in reserve, but it's still something that's being shoehorned into a space not designed for it.
What you heard is not what I actually witnessed.
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#46
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Originally posted by piper28
Pet peeve of mine is that they only seem to have the crusty rolls in the dining room, while upstairs in the buffet they have some real nice soft rolls.

Personally, my biggest concern with the CC dining is the impact it's having on the regular any time dining. From what I've heard a lot of these tables are sitting completely empty while people are getting turned away from any time dining because the restaurant is full. And then after some of the two-tops are done for a seating of any-time they turn them around to be used for club class, where they end up sitting empty while people can't get a table for two because this space is being wasted. Hopefully over time they'll learn how much they really need to keep in reserve, but it's still something that's being shoehorned into a space not designed for it.
The only time I personally saw space being taken from ATD was when we had a late port in Ensenada. EVERYONE herded to the MDR and of course CC had priority.


Other than that night, CC was steady, with very few empty tables. The space seemed fluid and really was utilized well.
#47
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There are so many different opinions on CC and the value/worthiness of it. To each his own, right? We are usually inside room people because we can book more cruises, more often that way. We've done mini suites and I do love them, especially since we travel as a family of 4 but we got a really good deal on a CC cabin next year and I'm looking forward to trying it, but in the end, my family wants to be a stones throw from the IC so I suspect that will continue to happen for the foreseeable future.
We also enjoy a lot of specialty dining, so the opportunity to use the MDR is diminished for us. We often try to do Chef's table, and the specialty restaurants at least 2x each. On our upcoming CC cruise we will have to give up some things to use the MDR more. We also typically cruise 10-15 days.

I also think it's a good thing Princess now has CC for Suite guests. I agree that if you are going to be paying that much to cruise, you should get some perks.

I do enjoy hearing about other's experience in Club Class, and look forward to trying it out myself.
#48
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Today we booked a CC midship on the Regal. Reading this thread I'm a bit confused? Is this about CC or crumb sweepers? Of course I jest but has this thread as gone a bit off course?
#49
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Originally posted by Astro Flyer
Could if be another procedure that varies based on the Princess cruise?

Based on the price difference & only the dining options being different than the elite benefits, Club Class won't be in our future. But for those willing to pay extra for CC features that's another option for them to consider.
Good point sir.....

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#50
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Originally posted by DrivesLikeMario
I totally agree with that and for that reason, it has no appeal to me.

However, if you are no where near elite status or even platinum, it might be worth it especially if you are cruising for a special occasion. I have decided to give it a try on our next cruise as usually I just go for a regular balcony and this way have a mini-suite in a sweet location. Also, from what I have read about the dining, it gives you the real anytime dining experience. On our last cruise, we did anytime for the first time, but didn't go until our second night (did Crown Grill first night). Needless to say I was blown away when I was asked if I had a reservation?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And when I told him I thought this was anytime dining he just gave me that look and proceeded to tell me (this was at 6:30pm) that he could not get me into the anytime dining restaurant at anytime that night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, for real. Then he sent me upstairs to the other dining room where I had to wait 30 more minutes to get in. It seems if allowed, anytime dining becomes traditional dining at your time as they were booked solid for the entire cruise!!!! We just ate really early from then on or did speciality. So, if the dining works as outlined, it will be great for us as we can go at ANY time and actually get in with little or no wait!!!

Will let you know how it goes!

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#51
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Pooh...based on your description you apparently first went to the Anytime dining room that has traditional assigned first seating.

On all of my cruises since anytime dining was implemented one of the ATD restaurants will have an early traditional dining. Thus one will be by reservation only for a first seating & then become ATD at about 7:30.

It's been posted that sometimes there's a limited number of reservations accepted in the open anytime dining rooms. Apparently the procedure will vary & is a decision made by the maître d'. Although they never fill a restaurant open for Anytime dining with reservations but they do use one of them for an early traditional dining seating at about 5:30.
#52
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Originally posted by Skai
Sure seems to be how it appears.

I'm trying to remember the last time I saw a waiter on Princess pull out a 'crumber' to sweep the table-cloth.
They were used on Island Princess just two months ago. I was surprised because I had not seen them for a while.
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#53
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Originally posted by PoohUnderstands
However, if you are no where near elite status or even platinum, it might be worth it especially if you are cruising for a special occasion. I have decided to give it a try on our next cruise as usually I just go for a regular balcony and this way have a mini-suite in a sweet location. Also, from what I have read about the dining, it gives you the real anytime dining experience. On our last cruise, we did anytime for the first time, but didn't go until our second night (did Crown Grill first night). Needless to say I was blown away when I was asked if I had a reservation?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And when I told him I thought this was anytime dining he just gave me that look and proceeded to tell me (this was at 6:30pm) that he could not get me into the anytime dining restaurant at anytime that night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, for real. Then he sent me upstairs to the other dining room where I had to wait 30 more minutes to get in. It seems if allowed, anytime dining becomes traditional dining at your time as they were booked solid for the entire cruise!!!! We just ate really early from then on or did speciality. So, if the dining works as outlined, it will be great for us as we can go at ANY time and actually get in with little or no wait!!!

Will let you know how it goes!

Pooh
Please double check that a mini-suite qualifies you for club class. I recall seeing several threads that mini-suites do not include most suite perks.
Nevermind. I saw something on Princess that listed club class mini suites, so you should be good.
#54
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Originally posted by Mo_Cruising
Just off the Regal. Because we were in a full suite we were eligible for Club Class dining. One good thing was we didn't have to wait to be seated. That was virtually the only difference we saw between Club Class and Anytime dining. If there were any special presentations or dishes offered, we were not made aware of them.


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Club Class is a joke. Putting lipstick on a pig.

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#55
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Originally posted by Marvin Schwartz
Club Class is a joke. Putting lipstick on a pig.

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An expensive joke at that.
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#56
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Originally posted by Marvin Schwartz
Club Class is a joke. Putting lipstick on a pig.

Marvin Schwartz
Originally posted by floridalover5623
An expensive joke at that.
I'm not sure that I agree with either of these two comments.

This is the first thread that has fostered negative comments from people who have actually booked Club Class passage. It seems that prior to this discussion, people seem very pleased with it and plan to book it again.

I also don't think Princess spent a lot of money on it. What did they do? They reserved a section of an already existing room and installed some signs directing people. I really don't think the added menu features are particularly expensive, and I know that the wine that they are leaving in the cabin is very cheap. Regardless, they then raised the price of the cabins. So, I'm pretty confident that if there was any increase in cost, it has been more than covered by increased revenue in cabin bookings.

For what it's worth, I have never booked Club Class, and I really don't anticipate any scenario where I might do so. Regardless, it appears to work for many people, and my gut feel is that Princess is happy with the response.

Now, if my "gut feel" is incorrect, and Princess is having difficulty selling Club Class eligible cabins. They can discontinue the practice at practically no cost--just pull down those signs.
#57
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My wife and I were on the Emerald Princess in February for a New Zealand cruise. We were in a full suite and very much enjoyed the Club Class dining. We met interesting people every night and the service was excellent.

After a somewhat disappointing meal in the Crown Grill on departure night, we ate the rest of our meals in Club Class. We decided to forego the free specialty restaurant meal from our TA.

We never had to wait for a table, regardless of the time we arrived. There were off menu items every night. All in all, we both enjoyed it.

We're off to England to do the same thing on the Caribbean Princess on June 30th and then the Pacific Princess in January. We've booked full suites on both cruises to get Club Class.


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