Royal Caribbean banning emotional support animals

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Originally posted by rvmike
Had a little fury thing being fed off the plate next to me. I sneezd on her plate and they never came back on a 10 night cruise. Easy to fix some problems, yes I am allergic to fuzzy things.
Good move! See, allergies aren't always bad.
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Originally posted by keithm
This is one that occurred a few years ago here in NH. There's a diner about 40 miles from where we live. This guy, a supposed vet(which was never truly substantiated)brought his dog into the diner. The owner told him to leave. The guy said, but it's my Emotional Support Animal. The owner said ONLY true service animals may come in. Well, all the snowflakes went wild & protested outside & demanded a boycott. The owner lost nearly all his business to these scumbags. He then relented & allowed the damn dog inside. A shame I never went up there to teach those slack jawed yokels a little bit about the law. Once the "press" had their blood(without checking fed.law)they moved on to the next story. "Stupid is, as Stupid does" Enough on this. Let's move on.
Keith please, I thought you were calming down a bit but I guess not, please end it now, you’re making yourself sound really silly.
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Originally posted by keithm
Notice on the fine print: The Air Carriers Access Act "Allows" for the person to be accompanied. It does NOT mean "requires". This is a big difference. The carrier may refuse, the animal should it choose to. I'm fine with them caged, but they should not be allowed to roam the plane. After the Peacock/ loose Pig debacles some time ago, you'd think some common sense would prevail. There's a book by "Glenn Beck" that came out a few years ago. The "title" of that book pretty much sums up dealing with this entire "Emotional Support Animal" bunch of crap.
"I'm fine with them caged..." Do you refer to the animal, the owner, either or both?
"...but they should not be allowed to roam the plane." Again, the same question:...animal, owner, either or both?
I believe there is merit in the answer, "Both" which would apply to both questions.
Thank you for a great suggestion!
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Originally posted by dkjretired
Keith please, I thought you were calming down a bit but I guess not, please end it now, you’re making yourself sound really silly.
Sorry, Don. After my friends & their service dog was attacked by a Pit-bull mix fake service dog, I really took it on myself about this issue. You're right. I'm getting too worked up. Lets move on. Thanks for bringing me down a bit. I'd have some emotional support Scotch, but then, I don't drink
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Originally posted by 1980dory
"I'm fine with them caged..." Do you refer to the animal, the owner, either or both?
"...but they should not be allowed to roam the plane." Again, the same question:...animal, owner, either or both?
I believe there is merit in the answer, "Both" which would apply to both questions.
Thank you for a great suggestion!
Thanks. I'm taking Don's advice(dkjretired). Time to move on from this. RCCL seems to be moving in the right direction on this subject.
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Originally posted by NLH Arizona
Acutally, I'm not sure that cruse ships fall within the parameters of the Air Carriers Act and that is why Royal Caribbean can deny emotional support dogs on their ships. Some of the airlines are now requiring a letter from a doctor stating the dog owners mental state that requires the need to have the dog fly with them....what is funny is now there are those doctors (???) who are now on line offering these letters.
Agree..ships not covered so they can make this choice. You can also get fake ID online..many websites but thats another story!
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Here is my issue. People who need service dogs have real issues. People who have “emotional support” animals have, in my opinion, mental issues. I am allergic to animals. I love them but they make me itch and sneeze and have breathing problems. If airlines ban peanuts, and more people are allergic to dogs and cats than nuts, why must I put up with these “emotional support” animals?
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Legitimate Registered Service Animals are one thing and an absolute necessity for those needing them. People using the system to transport their animals free of charge or avoiding having to pay for care of their animals while they travel is another. I cannot imagine trying to evacuate an aircraft/vessel in an emergency with ponies, dogs, cats, rabbits, and whatever that are not trained service animals. So, does the pony get to go down the aircraft slide first, tear it up with it's hooves, and render it useless for the 150 plus people onboard?
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I fully agree that emotional support animals should not be allowed on cruises. However, why would we think RCCL/Celebrity would be any more likely to enforce this than other rules they have made? Half the posts on this forum are complaints about rules they set but then refuse to enforce because of their fear of offending a handful of passengers.
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Originally posted by 39august
Sure hope there is a mini-horse on my next SW flight!
Wilbuur! Do I get to go along? You have to be a child of the 50's-60's to get this.
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Originally posted by keithm
Wilbuur! Do I get to go along? You have to be a child of the 50's-60's to get this.
No problem Mr. Ed.
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We saw the same exact thing on our last Equinox cruise a few months ago




Originally posted by 39august
Great! Last month on Equinox a couple pushed a dog around in a baby stroller. Ridiculous! Saw this in a dining venue to boot.
Rowlett, Texas, USA
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At many public pools and waterparks in our area, they close the summer season with a "Doggie Splash" where you can bring your pet to swim along with you. After that, they drain and clean the pools. Maybe Celebrity should consider doing that the week before a ship is scheduled to go into drydock! I can see it now, instead of leaving a towel or flip-flips on a lounge to save it all day, you'd just let your pit bull guard it for you.
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Originally posted by Nebr.cruiser
Mini horses?!
The following post only applies to service animals. If you go back to post # 19 I posted a link to US Justice Department directive. The only animals that qualify as Service Animals are Dogs and under certain circumstances miniature horses. Nothing else.

Next time I fly I’m going to take my wife as my support person, that way she can fly for free.������
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Originally posted by Presto2
To be honest in the UK I had never seen or heard of an emotional support dog until I read CC.
Sorry, to me it is ridiculous. GOOD decision RCI and hope that other US lines follow. Looking on from outside the USA we have often said 'Only in America' (no offense) and are glad that someone 'over the pond' has seen sense.

Just to make it clear --- we have nothing other than the utmost respect for Guide Dogs for the Blind in the UK (know one very well .. woof) and Hearing Dogs for the Deaf etc as well as recognised dog support - what you would call service dogs in the US I imagine

I find that some people just take advantage and have read about the so called ES Dogs with open jaws. Unreal.

We have pets that we stress about leaving at home but they stay at home ---- well, in the K - E- N - N- E- L- S --- shhhhh

PS Hubby has just suggested that folk "take a teddy bear" If needs be --- sorry, made me laugh and I couldn't agree more. My 2 small ones come along every year .... but they stay in the cabin !!!
What a great post, Presto2!

Have truer words ever been spoken?

I'm from the US, and I find myself shaking my head daily at the number of dogs in the supermarket, department stores, restaurants etc. Some are in strollers, some in grocery carts, some just walking along beside their owners.

I am in full support of service animals (commonly dogs) who are invaluable to those with disabilities.

I don't hate animals. I have a pet cat and love her immensely. I have volunteered at my local humane society for going on 6 years now. But, pets have their place--for cats that typically means indoors at home.

Dogs have a slightly wider latitude--home, backyard, being walked around the neighborhood, local park, RV vacation, etc.

I have to say--here in Florida, at least--you kind of have to bite your tongue about this issue... Or you might find yourself at odds with friends or neighbors.

Recently, our neighbor asked my DH if he could drop her at the airport on his way to work since it's on his way. He said yes, of course, as we are friends with her and her DH.

When she got in DH's car with her dog wearing a red vest, DH was like, "Why's he wearing that?"

Without shame the first, she said, "I bought it online so he doesn't have to stay in his case and can sit on my lap on the plane."

DH was speechless.
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Originally posted by alreadypacked
What a great post, Presto2!

Have truer words ever been spoken?

I'm from the US, and I find myself shaking my head daily at the number of dogs in the supermarket, department stores, restaurants etc. Some are in strollers, some in grocery carts, some just walking along beside their owners.

I am in full support of service animals (commonly dogs) who are invaluable to those with disabilities.

I don't hate animals. I have a pet cat and love her immensely. I have volunteered at my local humane society for going on 6 years now. But, pets have their place--for cats that typically means indoors at home.

Dogs have a slightly wider latitude--home, backyard, being walked around the neighborhood, local park, RV vacation, etc.

I have to say--here in Florida, at least--you kind of have to bite your tongue about this issue... Or you might find yourself at odds with friends or neighbors.

Recently, our neighbor asked my DH if he could drop her at the airport on his way to work since it's on his way. He said yes, of course, as we are friends with her and her DH.

When she got in DH's car with her dog wearing a red vest, DH was like, "Why's he wearing that?"

Without shame the first, she said, "I bought it online so he doesn't have to stay in his case and can sit on my lap on the plane."

DH was speechless.
When you say nothing, you become an enabler.