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ChaylaT

By ChaylaT,
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big_duck

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2 cents here from a retired engineer, if the fire got into much of the electrical system the repairs and certifications will take considerable more time than 2-3 weeks. Possible to run into months.

Lets hope its a simple fix.

As far as tug costs, the ship would have to be moved to dry dock and one could assume that will be in the US.

Just glad everyone is ok.

 

Agree with everything but the need for a dry dock; assuming there is no damage to exterior submerged systems.

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salty dingo

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2 cents here from a retired engineer, if the fire got into much of the electrical system the repairs and certifications will take considerable more time than 2-3 weeks. Possible to run into months.

Lets hope its a simple fix.

I was a foreman in a plant and one night my line caught fire. It was just burning a few seconds before I broke the glass on the fire alarm and the sprinklers went off and doused the fire. Fire dep't came to make sure.

 

Anyway, all the electrical insulation melted off the wires inside the conduits. All wire had to be re-pulled and re-wired.

 

It did not take that long, a few days maybe, to make the repairs. However a manufacturing plant is no where near as complex as a ship, so maybe it will take longer. But unless they have to replace engines, it won't be terribly long to fix, I predict.

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Barsnikel

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^ I tend to agree. I've been involved in large industrial fires where generators and motors went up in flames.

 

Of course it depends upon what caused the fire, and how extensive it was.. But these things can often be fixed pretty fast.

 

Of course, a ship can be much more complex, and could have many Coast Guard certification issues... so who really knows ?

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I am just amazed no one on board has a Sat card for their laptop.

 

I'm not aware that such a beast exists, and if they do they would be hideously expensive (like sat phones) therefore beyond the means of your average Carnival customer.

 

Regular wireless cards won't work of course because the cellular-at-sea tower would probably be off line or restricted to official business only.

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Free beer on Carnival? Come on you know that ain't going to happen. Those folks will be lucky to get any sort of decent refund.

 

In view of how soon it happened after the cruise started, I'm sure they'll all get a COMPLETE REFUND.

I wouldn't be surprised if Carnival also picked up airline tickets for those that traveled from great distances at considerable cost.

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I'm sure it was quite traumatic for some, getting shook out of bed at 6 in the morning and being told to go topside.

I'm sure it was. But better being told to go topside, than to report to your lifeboat station!:eek: I hope all the passengers on board remain calm, and go with the flow. I am sure the Carnival staff on board is being bombarded with problems now. Lucky JH is on board - if anyone can handle the unhappy hordes, he probably can!

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I was a foreman in a plant and one night my line caught fire. It was just burning a few seconds before I broke the glass on the fire alarm and the sprinklers went off and doused the fire. Fire dep't came to make sure.

 

Anyway, all the electrical insulation melted off the wires inside the conduits. All wire had to be re-pulled and re-wired.

 

It did not take that long, a few days maybe, to make the repairs. However a manufacturing plant is no where near as complex as a ship, so maybe it will take longer. But unless they have to replace engines, it won't be terribly long to fix, I predict.

 

 

Well I read one article about it that it was not contained for 3 hours and had a flare up 45min later. I could only immagine there would be alot of heat damage and burnt wiring. I have never seen the engine room of a cruise ship, but or 3 hours, I would immagine it would be at a minimum weeks and or months to get it back into service.

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elcydcruiser

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If the Splendor limps home to Long Beach, where would dry dock take place? Would they try to do the majority of repairs at dockside then take her to dry dock, if necessary? I haven't seen a ship that size in dry dock in the Port of LB or LA since the Navy left. Just curious.

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Since we are all speculating and none of us have any real idea what happened let me throw some thoughts out.

 

The real question is not how much damage was done to the engines/motors themselves but to the surrounding areas. The fire burned for three hours. Logic says that was not a small fire. If you remember the Princess ship where the fire took place 2 or 3 years ago in the cabins they got that one out in less time and that ship was laid up 4 or 5 months.

 

The flare up tells me that it was a very hot fire and there is probably a lot of damage. It is certainly going to take yard work to get it repaired, maybe dry dock maybe not, but it is not likely something that can be done in a week or two.

 

Thank goodness everyone is OK, but IMO the idea the the ship can be ready to carry passengers before Christmas is pretty far fetched.

 

Hopefully for all those that are booked I am wrong, but if I had plans on Splendor before the first of the year I would be looking for alternatives to jump on as soon as carnival makes an announcement.

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*Mach*

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If the Splendor limps home to Long Beach, where would dry dock take place? Would they try to do the majority of repairs at dockside then take her to dry dock, if necessary? I haven't seen a ship that size in dry dock in the Port of LB or LA since the Navy left. Just curious.

 

 

Without a damage assessment it's impossible to say. I'm sure they have some idea of the extent of the damage but they aren't releasing that information.

There's really very little that's flammable in the engine room... it's all steel... other than the fuel itself with is just barely flammable.

No one was hurt, the ship is safe and that's all good news. When the Ecstasy caught fire in 1998 there were 50 injuries and quite extensive damage.

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Mary from Carnival HQ just posted the following on Johns web page and its also on Carnival Web. site.

 

 

 

 

Hello everyone. It’s Mary from Carnival HQ here. Indeed, John is very busy right now but I know he will sincerely appreciate all of your kind thoughts once he has an opportunity to read them. We will be posting updates on the Splendor on our PR newsblog. The latest one can be found here. http://*******.com/27e94xh

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CapMike04530

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I sailed (as a passenger) on the Splendor in it's inaurgral season, 2008. I'm sure that Carnival has an entire engineering team mobilized to get to this ship, analyze the cause and extent of damage to the vessel and will be working with the Certifying Bureau, their insurance company and the Coast Guard to develop a plan to rectify the problem and get the vessel back in service as soon as possible. I am also sure that they have a team of guest services specialists working around the clock to make arrangements to get passengers back home and once that is complete they will turn their attention to re-booking passengers from puture cruises that may be impacted until the ship is back in service. Ships such as this have Safety Management Systems (SMS) required by International regulations (IMO) to deal with such circumstances. I'm sure that Carnival is making every effort to get the vessel back in service as soon as possible.

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I would be heartbroken as a passenger. I can't even imagine the atmosphere onboard right now. I would definitely be hoping for liquor. :)

 

I have a cruise booked in 3 weeks from today and I couldn't imagine being in the situation as many of you are with it being "my" ship and having to find Plan B. Especially the few of you posted about weddings...I feel for you. Of course, no one knows what will happen, but it seems with no posts at all from anyone on board that there is not any power to be able to communicate. How scary.

 

Good luck to all of you with upcoming cruises. I'm sure Carnival will take care of their passengers for the cruise itself, but all of the other expenses...I wonder how insurance handles this.

 

I have heard wonderful things about the CD and it sounds like the best in the fleet is on that ship. I'm sure he'll be ready for a few days of R&R when they return.

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