Urgent - Ruby Princess 3 people infected - Urgent Tracking of Passengers

[lyndarra]

This;

 

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[LittleFish1976]

14 minutes ago, NSWP said:

Still there.

The attachment has been removed by the system. What was the source of your post and we can search for it on google and read it that way.

[NSWP]

3 minutes ago, lyndarra said:

This;

 

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Secret Squirrel stuff.  CIA ?  I am mystified, anyway in a nutshell things are not good with the 1000 crew still on Ruby Princess off NSW coast, crew member reports 700 in isolated cabins. We are hoping it is fake news, time will tell.

Edited March 28, 2020 by NSWP

[NSWP]

57 minutes ago, LittleFish1976 said:

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'CrewCenter'

Edited March 28, 2020 by NSWP

[Pushka]

Why that cruise was ever allowed to depart beggars belief. 

[Ondine]

11 hours ago, Relaxing Robbies said:

 

Is there any news of cases from the Carnival Spirit 2 day Melbourne to Sydney after the NZ cruise? I was onboard for that and there were still Americans on casino VIP deals on this cruise. I avoided them whenever possible.

I haven't heard or seen anything about your trip.  Still only the 1 case in Tassie confirmed.  I received another email from the CDPU in Tassie this morning saying the isolation should last till tonight.  Because we came in on 14th March we were not told to self isolate.  That became official for cruises arriving on the 15th.

 

"Hunter69" was doing b2b2bs   (NZ trip/Melb-Syd and the cancelled Alaska cruise).  He may know something if he is reading this thread.

 

Keep safe, I'm ok so far.  No symptoms but it hard to believe that only one passenger caught it.  So many passengers from overseas they could be anywhere.

[Pushka]

I was thinking that we are moving towards the 14 day period of Ruby Princess. Then it occurred to me, how many didn't self isolate. This may not be the end of the Ruby story. 

[nnps]

1 hour ago, LittleFish1976 said:

The attachment has been removed by the system. What was the source of your post and we can search for it on google and read it that way.

Perhaps our vaunted Australian Border Force has now found something to occupy their time.

[Porky55]

Just browsing BookFace and now the focus seems to be gearing up to flights - there are heaps of flight numbers quoting dates (both recent and older) and Dep/Arr details notifying Intern / transiting domestic passengers of confirmed cases. Just in our local area, so this will be happening everywhere.
Just as the cruise ship cases calm, the airplane cases ramp up. Stay at home and stay safe everyone 😳

 

Edited March 28, 2020 by Porky55

[LittleFish1976]

30 minutes ago, NSWP said:

'CrewCenter'

A very sad story. I hope they are getting lots of support from Princess Cruises to purchase and organise supplies for them. Statistically speaking, you can only assume there will be casualties.

[Pushka]

6 minutes ago, LittleFish1976 said:

A very sad story. I hope they are getting lots of support from Princess Cruises to purchase and organise supplies for them. Statistically speaking, you can only assume there will be casualties.

And which we are unlikely to hear about. 

[BRANDEE]

1 hour ago, Pushka said:

We all need to hope she just suffered from a really bad case of jet lag and back ache from flying so much. Her defiance of the restrictions is breath taking. I'm hoping her friends evaporate. 

I read the article about this lady. 

Not sure if she is being used as a scapegoat for something that is truly a tragic set of events that could have been avoided if those in charge did their job.

First she got off the ship and stayed in her hotel room for two days as per the instructions sent to all passengers from the health department.  "if you have a layover, you must remain in the airport or self isolate in your accommodation for the transit period". No special instructions for international passengers to stay 14 days in Australia.  Very confusing wording by the health department notice between domestic and international.

Secondly, her posts said she started to feel sick 5/6 days after the ship docked while she was already home and in a self isolation.

Branding all passengers from the Ruby as Typhoid Marys is unfair.  People who were sick on board and hid it is another matter.  Sorry about the rant...quite stressed. 

No one went on vacation with the intent of hurting other people or getting a disease that will kill them or their loved ones..

[Pushka]

4 minutes ago, BRANDEE said:

I read the article about this lady. 

Not sure if she is being used as a scapegoat for something that is truly a tragic set of events that could have been avoided if those in charge did their job.

First she got off the ship and stayed in her hotel room for two days as per the instructions sent to all passengers from the health department.  "if you have a layover, you must remain in the airport or self isolate in your accommodation for the transit period". No special instructions for international passengers to stay 14 days in Australia.  Very confusing wording by the health department notice between domestic and international.

Secondly, her posts said she started to feel sick 5/6 days after the ship docked while she was already home and in a self isolation.

Branding all passengers from the Ruby as Typhoid Marys is unfair.  People who were sick on board and hid it is another matter.  Sorry about the rant...quite stressed. 

No one went on vacation with the intent of hurting other people or getting a disease that will kill them or their loved ones..

I think the issue may be that Australia can't quarantine foreign nationals unless they wish to stay in Australia. I could be very wrong.  But unless someone is arrested, we simply cannot detain them if they wish to leave. And at the time people were released, there were no positive results. Which may well explain why everyone was able to leave very quickly.....

Edited March 28, 2020 by Pushka

[BRANDEE]

2 minutes ago, Pushka said:

I think the issue may be that Australia can't quarantine foreign nationals unless they wish to stay in Australia. I could be very wrong.  But unless someone is arrested, we simply cannot detain them if they wish to leave. And at the time people were released, there were no positive results. Which may well explain why everyone was able to leave very quickly.....

Just got another survey from NSW health..now they added to yes and no ..maybe.. regarding symptoms of corona.

[MMDown Under]

2 hours ago, Pushka said:

Id agree with that in a sense. But even so there can't be a rule stopping people from other countries booking the cruise. And having done a couple now, I don't think I'd want to do any more just Aus coast trips. I was thinking of only doing small boat cruises of say 35 people. Europe has some fabulous itineraries. Oh wait......

I would consider cruising again -

from 2021, assuming virus is under control and a vaccine has been developed

on a small ship with a walk around deck

with a window which opens or a balcony

under UK booking conditions 

to a destination on my bucket list. 

It would be from a small pool, but worth every cent!

Edited March 28, 2020 by MMDown Under

[The_Big_M]

3 hours ago, NSWP said:

Secret Squirrel stuff.  CIA ?  I am mystified, anyway in a nutshell things are not good with the 1000 crew still on Ruby Princess off NSW coast, crew member reports 700 in isolated cabins. We are hoping it is fake news, time will tell.

 

Reliable site, but the source can be anyone. That said, 700 isolated doesn't mean 700 cases, just that they're sensibly self-isolating to reduce transmission.

 

Will have to see how it progresses - but given how much it spread amongst passengers, they would also have an issue with crew onboard.

[Aus Traveller]

7 hours ago, MicCanberra said:

This was a point I was making several weeks ago when they brought the restrictions in, quarantining would have been better than self isolation once you arrive home.

It has been said, that with the number of people arriving in the country a week or two ago, there weren't the facilities to quarantine that many people. Now the numbers are manageable so they are being quarantined in hotels.

[MicCanberra]

17 minutes ago, Aus Traveller said:

It has been said, that with the number of people arriving in the country a week or two ago, there weren't the facilities to quarantine that many people. Now the numbers are manageable so they are being quarantined in hotels.

They should have stopped all internationals (non-residents) from coming here at that time as well.

[LittleFish1976]

3 hours ago, Pushka said:

I think the issue may be that Australia can't quarantine foreign nationals unless they wish to stay in Australia. I could be very wrong.  But unless someone is arrested, we simply cannot detain them if they wish to leave. And at the time people were released, there were no positive results. Which may well explain why everyone was able to leave very quickly.....

The 'no positive results' is a large part of why the public is upset. Tests had been taken and the people on the ship and the authorities should have waited for the results which came through same day. They were just allowed to leave and scatter.

[Pushka]

1 minute ago, LittleFish1976 said:

The 'no positive results' is a large part of why the public is upset. Tests had been taken and the people on the ship and the authorities should have waited for the results which came through same day. They were just allowed to leave and scatter.

Oh yes. Totally agree with you. So I guess the elephant in the room is - why were they bundled off so quickly knowing there were results pending. 

[LittleFish1976]

Just now, Pushka said:

Oh yes. Totally agree with you. So I guess the elephant in the room is - why were they bundled off so quickly knowing there were results pending. 

Yes, refer previous conversation! People on twitter asking for names. One NSW pollie has been named there  (I won't repeat as I do not know anything about said MP). But there will possibly be others.

[Pushka]

6 minutes ago, LittleFish1976 said:

Yes, refer previous conversation! People on twitter asking for names. One NSW pollie has been named there  (I won't repeat as I do not know anything about said MP). But there will possibly be others.

It's been interesting. And confirmed by a passenger on that cruise that they were docked into Sydney in the very wee hours of the morning......

[BRANDEE]

20 minutes ago, Pushka said:

Oh yes. Totally agree with you. So I guess the elephant in the room is - why were they bundled off so quickly knowing there were results pending. 

We were shoved off the ship and out of the country.  Princess said "Get off my ship" and the Australian gov't said "Get out of my country'.  That is what everyone at the airport was saying, especially when we were not temperature scanned getting off the ship.  Something all passengers were sure was going to happen for the safety of the Australian people. No disrespect or insult to any cruise line or country..but that is just how a lot of us felt. Go quickly. Last time I posted this.. it disappeared.

[BRANDEE]

18 minutes ago, Pushka said:

It's been interesting. And confirmed by a passenger on that cruise that they were docked into Sydney in the very wee hours of the morning......

 We docked at 1 am and first passengers walked off at 7 am.  Ship cleared by 10/10:15am

[Pushka]

5 minutes ago, BRANDEE said:

We were shoved off the ship and out of the country.  Princess said "Get off my ship" and the Australian gov't said "Get out of my country'.  That is what everyone at the airport was saying, especially when we were not temperature scanned getting off the ship.  Something all passengers were sure was going to happen for the safety of the Australian people. No disrespect or insult to any cruise line or country..but that is just how a lot of us felt. Go quickly. Last time I posted this.. it disappeared.

I'm sorry that it ended that way. Normally it takes forever to get off so this is certainly strange. No wonder the conspiracy theories have oxygen.