All Concierge Lounges now closed to Diamond Plus?

[SherriZ366]

1 hour ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Absolutely

I thought that you posted that Laura sailed on some cruises as a solo and got the extra point per night.  

[grapau27]

9 hours ago, DaniDanielle said:

You are so very cute😉

Thank you.x

[Kbonner]

11 hours ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

Suite bashing now?

Yes why not, just to keep it balanced.

[John&LaLa]

9 hours ago, SherriZ366 said:

I thought that you posted that Laura sailed on some cruises as a solo and got the extra point per night.  

Probably 60% of my listed points are due to Laura. And close to half of hers are the bonus points associated with both solo trips and suites

[A&L_Ont]

13 hours ago, LorraineP said:

RCL created a bigger problem by letting grown children keep their parents C&A status. So there are D & D+ that maybe went on 1 or 2 cruises but because of their parents status they start off as D’s or D+ instead of zero. 

Our son is D+ by his actual sailings at 12 years of age. We paid and he went.  
 

In this case RC wants cruise loyalty and they pass the reward onto the next generation of loyalists.  If these kids choose to sail at and older age, RC hopes they return to them. They also pass it onto newlyweds and people living together as a couple, even if one of them has never been on a cruise. It’s not just children that get this perk.
 

It’s RC’s program to run, and this is how they have chosen to do it. 

[Bobal]

9 minutes ago, A&L_Ont said:

In this case RC wants cruise loyalty and they pass the reward onto the next generation of loyalists.  If these kids choose to sail at and older age, RC hopes they return to them. 

 

Exactly this. Our sons were Diamond via our status with the same points until they reached 18, at which point they retained D status but reverted to their own points. They subsequently sailed enough to reach Diamond in their own right. We always sailed as a family but they haven't sailed with us for 6 years or so. However they both love cruising and I know that when they choose to do so again they will go straight back to Royal.

[John&LaLa]

28 minutes ago, A&L_Ont said:

Our son is D+ by his actual sailings at 12 years of age. We paid and he went.  
 

In this case RC wants cruise loyalty and they pass the reward onto the next generation of loyalists.  If these kids choose to sail at and older age, RC hopes they return to them. They also pass it onto newlyweds and people living together as a couple, even if one of them has never been on a cruise. It’s not just children that get this perk.
 

It’s RC’s program to run, and this is how they have chosen to do it. 

 

We didn't sail Royal much when our kids were young, so they don't have any status on Royal due to us. However, Pat saw the advantages of the program on our 2019 TA, and when I asked if he wanted to go with us on the Allure TA, his first question was how many points will he earn.😱

 

Said he wanted to start living that 'Diamond Life'🤣🤣

[Milwaukee Eight]

4 hours ago, Kbonner said:

Yes why not, just to keep it balanced.

I don’t think Suite Guest are contributing to Diamond crowding issues. Suite Cabins remain pretty much fixed while C&A numbers vary by date/price/ship. 
 

M8

[John&LaLa]

3 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

I don’t think Suite Guest are contributing to Diamond crowding issues. Suite Cabins remain pretty much fixed while C&A numbers vary by date/price/ship. 
 

M8

 

Suite passengers are generally static, I feel they do go up in summer and holidays.

[LorraineP]

42 minutes ago, A&L_Ont said:

Our son is D+ by his actual sailings at 12 years of age. We paid and he went.  
 

In this case RC wants cruise loyalty and they pass the reward onto the next generation of loyalists.  If these kids choose to sail at and older age, RC hopes they return to them. They also pass it onto newlyweds and people living together as a couple, even if one of them has never been on a cruise. It’s not just children that get this perk.
 

It’s RC’s program to run, and this is how they have chosen to do it. 

Thus overcrowding of lounges. 

[Milwaukee Eight]

16 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Suite passengers are generally static, I feel they do go up in summer and holidays.

Many Suite Guest are also Diamond and above. 

[John&LaLa]

3 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

Many Suite Guest are also Diamond and above. 

 

Ya think😇

[grapau27]

28 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

We didn't sail Royal much when our kids were young, so they don't have any status on Royal due to us. However, Pat saw the advantages of the program on our 2019 TA, and when I asked if he wanted to go with us on the Allure TA, his first question was how many points will he earn.😱

 

Said he wanted to start living that 'Diamond Life'🤣🤣

Pat is proof that C&A benefits work.

[Milwaukee Eight]

2 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Ya think😇

Yea. I know at least one Pinnacle that sailed in Star Class and a D+ who almost always sails in Star too.  Just say’n....

[John&LaLa]

19 minutes ago, LorraineP said:

Thus overcrowding of lounges. 

 

But it's way more than kids, solos, and status sharing. We are routinely seeing 800 Diamond and higher on an Oasis ship. Even if half got their status nefariously, that leaves 400 eligible for a lounge that holds less than 100.

 

The program just grew, and cruising became a lifestyle vs a vacation.

[John&LaLa]

1 minute ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

Yea. I know at least one Pinnacle that sailed in Star Class and a D+ who almost always sails in Star too.  Just say’n....

 

Are you D+ yet?

[BND]

16 hours ago, klfrodo said:

because P's have always ruled Royal's world and they deserve it. They have become members of the Royal family and have reached the peak of the mountain.

Of course 10 years from now, everything will have to be re-evaluated. There will have to be a higher level than Pinnacle. 

Deserve it?  For buying their way up the chain?  LOL.  We're not naive enough to believe we've done anything special to get 343 points on RCI except by spending money.   If the "peak of the mountain" of their life is being Pinnacle, then that's a very sad thing.  Buy your way there by purchasing cruises and enjoy the benefits, but don't begin to think Pinns are more "special or important" than anyone else.  The "peak of the mountain" on the ship is Captain, at RCI, it's CEO/President.  It's not being a Pinn.

[Milwaukee Eight]

1 hour ago, John&LaLa said:

 

We didn't sail Royal much when our kids were young, so they don't have any status on Royal due to us. However, Pat saw the advantages of the program on our 2019 TA, and when I asked if he wanted to go with us on the Allure TA, his first question was how many points will he earn.😱

 

Said he wanted to start living that 'Diamond Life'🤣🤣

Did he get any P benefits while onboard with you guys?

[Milwaukee Eight]

37 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Are you D+ yet?

No sir. Not yet. Expected this year but COVID19. Only D+ perk we like is the 30% off DP onboard. The 40% off as a P would be nice but not happening in my lifetime. The added D+ discount is really not that much. 
 

M8

[Milwaukee Eight]

1 hour ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Suite passengers are generally static, I feel they do go up in summer and holidays.

Don’t see a big increase in C&A numbers on most Holiday and Summer cruises. 

[badvector]

With all the complaints of overcrowding in the lounges, there really is a simple fix.  Why not just have a single lounge for suite guests and pinnacles?  If you want exclusive access to a lounge then you either pay for it through reserving a suite or by being a top tier.  They might even be able to open it up to JS by doing this creating another selling point for those rooms.  If that solution isn't satisfactory, then how about just dealing with the fact that the lounge is going to be crowded during happy hour and you might not find a seat.  We were on Serenade last year and the lounge was absolutely packed during the evenings.  No big deal, we either used our vouchers at dinner, the show or one of the many bars.  Any other time than during happy hour we were able to walk right in and grab a coffee or snack and seating was always available.  

[Lionesss]

59 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

Many Suite Guest are also Diamond and above. 

 

Very true.

We have sailed and planned cruises in suites with friends as well as people we met on board and we used to rotate going to diamond lounge or suite lounge. Now we stay with suite lounge.

 

We are soon to be D+, (damn plague got in the way)!

 

Stay healthy.

[LXA350]

19 hours ago, grapau27 said:

Pinnacles have use of the SL or CL so why also give them exclusive use of the Diamond Lounge?

If a change is deemed necessary by RC then making the DL into a D+ lounge only would make sense with current Diamonds being compensated by an extra drink each in any bar during cocktail hour plus 1 free speciality coffee any time of day.

 

Pimacles should get their own lounge which will replace their privilege to use the SL.

[Milwaukee Eight]

7 minutes ago, LXA350 said:

 

Pimacles should get their own lounge which will replace their privilege to use the SL.

I have said this numerous times.  P’s have certainly earned their own lounge. 

[LXA350]

1 minute ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

I have said this numerous times.  P’s have certainly earned their own lounge. 

 

They fully deserve their own lounge just the way suits deserve theirs. Concerning Coastal Kitchen, the privilege will also need to be taken away or what can be done, 2 tables could be dedicated to P's and these can be given away on a first come firsterve basis.