vulcan1971 Posted January 9, 2015 #476 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Geez Cruise kitty I hope you are an able bodied person with no physical defects because your attitude to a parapalegic in a wheelchair sux. Cut the guy some slack. If he/she is capable of making the dining room and meets the dress requirement from chair up then I will tolerate any other side issues. I note that according to Celebrity dress codes wheel chairs are not an optional item of attire so I assume strictly by your standards this person is relegated to the buffet. Yeah right I believe you missed Cruise Kitty's point, that being there are some situations that are to be outside the norm, such as wheel chair guests (and as others have said, lost luggage or X failing to deliver formal wear). She then went on to talk about the extremists views, not her's. That was my take and understanding of the comment, as well. I recently wore shorts and a polo to dinner in Tuscan Grill. Now granted, it was the first night of the cruise. Also, I was embarking the ship in Naples, Italy versus the port of Civitavecchia. Due to this change in embarkation ports, luggage did not arrive to our stateroom until after I was at dinner for an 8:30 PM reservation. Further, I personally went and spoke to the Maitre D of Tuscan Grill around 6 PM because I was concerned about my attire. He couldn't have been more understanding if he tried and said to not worry about it at all. Honestly, when you are sitting at a table, most everyone around you will only see what they see from the waist up. Edited January 9, 2015 by vulcan1971 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise kitty Posted January 9, 2015 #477 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I believe you missed Cruise Kitty's point, that being there are some situations that are to be outside the norm, such as wheel chair guests (and as others have said, lost luggage or X failing to deliver formal wear). She then went on to talk about the extremists views, not her's. That was my take and understanding of the comment, as well. I recently wore shorts and a polo to dinner in Tuscan Grill. Now granted, it was the first night of the cruise. Also, I was embarking the ship in Naples, Italy versus the port of Civitavecchia. Due to this change in embarkation ports, luggage did not arrive to our stateroom until after I was at dinner for an 8:30 PM reservation. Further, I personally went and spoke to the Maitre D of Tuscan Grill around 6 PM because I was concerned about my attire. He couldn't have been more understanding if he tried and said to not worry about it at all. Honestly, when you are sitting at a table, most everyone around you will only see what they see from the waist up. Thanks guys :) Yes, my point was that the thread used by another poster regarding shorts in the MDR was definitely an exception to the rule... if someone has a physical reason temporary or permanent, people need to be understanding & realize that people matter quite a bit more than codes. Common sense & decency go a long way. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetWet! Posted January 9, 2015 #478 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Thanks guys :) Yes, my point was that the thread used by another poster regarding shorts in the MDR was definitely an exception to the rule... if someone has a physical reason temporary or permanent, people need to be understanding & realize that people matter quite a bit more than codes. Common sense & decency go a long way. :) For the record, since I was that "another poster" you mention, I completely agree. Although the OP in that thread was handicapped as you said, I did not use any of his posts as examples, for exactly that reason. The post I referenced was from someone else without any disability who said their husband routinely wore shorts to the MDR for dinner on both Royal Caribbean and Celebrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash3x Posted January 14, 2015 #479 Share Posted January 14, 2015 What is appropriate dinner wear for men that is relaxed in MD on Constellation. And also on Formal night for me. Who don't choose to s"suit" it up? Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanb41 Posted January 14, 2015 #480 Share Posted January 14, 2015 What is appropriate dinner wear for men that is relaxed in MD on Constellation. And also on Formal night for me. Who don't choose to s"suit" it up? Sent from my iPad using Forums 1. Jeans and shirt with a collar 2. Trousers, jacket optional tie These are the minimum acceptable standards although you wont find them written down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash3x Posted January 14, 2015 #481 Share Posted January 14, 2015 1. Jeans and shirt with a collar 2. Trousers, jacket optional tie These are the minimum acceptable standards although you wont find them written down So at the least my DH needs to bring a jacket to eat in MDR on formal night. We have been on three other cruise lines and he has never brought one before. He truly believes being on vaca should be relaxing not putting on the ritz so to speak...I myself only wear capris and tanks or sleeveless tops nothing to write home about. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott2.0 Posted January 14, 2015 #482 Share Posted January 14, 2015 So at the least my DH needs to bring a jacket to eat in MDR on formal night. We have been on three other cruise lines and he has never brought one before. He truly believes being on vaca should be relaxing not putting on the ritz so to speak...I myself only wear capris and tanks or sleeveless tops nothing to write home about. Sent from my iPad using Forums I believe the tie is the optional part to the post you quoted, not the jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan1971 Posted January 14, 2015 #483 Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) So at the least my DH needs to bring a jacket to eat in MDR on formal night. We have been on three other cruise lines and he has never brought one before. He truly believes being on vaca should be relaxing not putting on the ritz so to speak...I myself only wear capris and tanks or sleeveless tops nothing to write home about. Sent from my iPad using Forums Regarding formal nights, there is nothing saying that you have to eat in the main dining room on formal nights. If either the man or woman want to dress up, no worries... There's no need to pack a lot of extra dress clothes. Many cruise passengers venture into the ocean view café for dinner on formal nights. Or, wear "smart casual" and go to one of the specialty restaurants. There are plenty of threads that discuss what smart casual dress entails. Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus on the T-Mobile 4G LTE Network using Tapatalk Pro Edited January 14, 2015 by vulcan1971 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkgourmet Posted January 14, 2015 #484 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Regarding formal nights, there is nothing saying that you have to eat in the main dining room on formal nights. If either the man or woman want to dress up, no worries... There's no need to pack a lot of extra dress clothes. Many cruise passengers venture into the ocean view café for dinner on formal nights. Or, wear "smart casual" and go to one of the specialty restaurants. There are plenty of threads that discuss what smart casual dress entails. Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus on the T-Mobile 4G LTE Network using Tapatalk Pro You're 100% correct, but Let's be quite clear about these other options. The Ocean View Cafe is the buffet. Serve yourself with food that we find inferior to what is available in the MDR. All the speciality restaurants are extra cost and IMHO not serving better food than the MDR. Just different food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan1971 Posted January 14, 2015 #485 Share Posted January 14, 2015 You're 100% correct, but Let's be quite clear about these other options. The Ocean View Cafe is the buffet. Serve yourself with food that we find inferior to what is available in the MDR. All the speciality restaurants are extra cost and IMHO not serving better food than the MDR. Just different food. jkgourmet - Appreciate your comments, but I think you over-reached on the "opinion" side of things. The person I quoted, and provided some information to, was curious/concerned about options if they did not want to bring formal attire. I provided some options to them that could make it easy to pack and plan from a clothing perspective. I don't presume to know what their tastes in food are, or how much money they have in their bank accounts. They are capable of deciding for themselves what works for them. Apparently you felt it important enough to share your personal feelings (opinions) with all of us, but not sure it actually contributed in a meaningful way. :rolleyes::confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulamoon Posted January 14, 2015 #486 Share Posted January 14, 2015 So at the least my DH needs to bring a jacket to eat in MDR on formal night. We have been on three other cruise lines and he has never brought one before. He truly believes being on vaca should be relaxing not putting on the ritz so to speak...I myself only wear capris and tanks or sleeveless tops nothing to write home about. Sent from my iPad using Forums There are lots of options...room service, buffet, paid resturants. In the end, we bring the jacket, but we always consider not doing so. I know cruisers who go to bistro every formal night. That is 7. Pp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle-guy Posted January 14, 2015 #487 Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) You're 100% correct, but Let's be quite clear about these other options. The Ocean View Cafe is the buffet. Serve yourself with food that we find inferior to what is available in the MDR. All the speciality restaurants are extra cost and IMHO not serving better food than the MDR. Just different food. Let's also clarify and add to these options, the MDR menu can be delivered at no charge to the cabin and enjoyed as room service. Ands as you say about the Specialties, the food in the Ocean View Cafe is no better or worse than MDR, just different food. Although one can get a properly cooked-to-order steak (or fish, or chicken) on demand, as opposed to one cooked up banquet style in the MDR. I actually enjoy the Ocean View Cafe a night or 2 for dinner, even in a suite and with access to BLU. If one is concerned about having to pay extra for a specialty restaurant, the solution is simple, bring a jacket. Edited January 14, 2015 by cle-guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkgourmet Posted January 14, 2015 #488 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Let's also clarify and add to these options, the MDR menu can be delivered at no charge to the cabin and enjoyed as room service. Assuming you have a table in your cabin that can comfortably be used for dining. Our standard verandah cabin, OV or inside cabins do not provide that, essentially eliminating the room service option. Sent from my LG-D851 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle-guy Posted January 14, 2015 #489 Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) Assuming you have a table in your cabin that can comfortably be used for dining. Our standard verandah cabin, OV or inside cabins do not provide that, essentially eliminating the room service option. Sent from my LG-D851 using Forums mobile app I've enjoyed room service sitting at the desk in many a hotel room, dozens, maybe even hundreds of times. Not luxurious, but convenient when I don't feel like getting dressed up to go out. All cabins, even inside and OV have a desk and chair. Agree tables aren't comfortable in OV and Insides (although the desk is acceptable as in any hotel room), but don't verandas have a table and chairs on them? I honestly can't recall from my Aqua cabin veranda if there was one. Edited January 14, 2015 by cle-guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulamoon Posted January 14, 2015 #490 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Assuming you have a table in your cabin that can comfortably be used for dining. Our standard verandah cabin, OV or inside cabins do not provide that, essentially eliminating the room service option. Sent from my LG-D851 using Forums mobile app Not to be argumentative...it doesn't eliminate it, it is just less comfortable. There is a tAble, not a large table. This does not bother me, but my husband wants a dining table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulamoon Posted January 14, 2015 #491 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I've enjoyed room service sitting at the desk in many a hotel room, dozens, maybe even hundreds of times. Not luxurious, but convenient when I don't feel like getting dressed up to go out. All cabins, even inside and OV have a desk and chair. Agree tables aren't comfortable in OV and Insides (although the desk is acceptable as in any hotel room), but don't verandas have a table and chairs on them? I honestly can't recall from my Aqua cabin veranda if there was one. AQ has a desk, coffee table and small balcony table with footstools. The food fits on the table, just not all the covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkgourmet Posted January 14, 2015 #492 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Here's my prediction: Sometime in the next 24 months, Celebrity will change their dress code to match Azmara - "Bare feet, tank tops, baseball caps, bathing suits, shorts, and jeans are not allowed in the main dining room or two specialty restaurants. (Khakis and other trousers are fine.)When dining at Windows Café, guests must wear footwear and a cover-up or shirt.In Prime C, Aqualina and Discoveries Restaurant, many guests enjoying dressing up. Formal evening wear (tuxedos and gowns) is not expected. We recommend that men bring a sport coat or suit; this attire comes in handy for evenings onshore as well. For women, dining attire includes dresses, skirts, blouses with pants and capris, and other appropriate attire." I'm going to bookmark this post for future 'I told you so' referral. Sent from my LG-D851 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gek Posted January 14, 2015 #493 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Here's my prediction: Sometime in the next 24 months, Celebrity will change their dress code to match Azmara - "Bare feet, tank tops, baseball caps, bathing suits, shorts, and jeans are not allowed in the main dining room or two specialty restaurants. (Khakis and other trousers are fine.)When dining at Windows Café, guests must wear footwear and a cover-up or shirt.In Prime C, Aqualina and Discoveries Restaurant, many guests enjoying dressing up. Formal evening wear (tuxedos and gowns) is not expected. We recommend that men bring a sport coat or suit; this attire comes in handy for evenings onshore as well. For women, dining attire includes dresses, skirts, blouses with pants and capris, and other appropriate attire." I'm going to bookmark this post for future 'I told you so' referral. Sent from my LG-D851 using Forums mobile app If they banned jeans I'd be looking for another cruise line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted January 14, 2015 #494 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Here's my prediction: Sometime in the next 24 months, Celebrity will change their dress code to match Azmara - "Bare feet, tank tops, baseball caps, bathing suits, shorts, and jeans are not allowed in the main dining room or two specialty restaurants. (Khakis and other trousers are fine.)When dining at Windows Café, guests must wear footwear and a cover-up or shirt.In Prime C, Aqualina and Discoveries Restaurant, many guests enjoying dressing up. Formal evening wear (tuxedos and gowns) is not expected. We recommend that men bring a sport coat or suit; this attire comes in handy for evenings onshore as well. For women, dining attire includes dresses, skirts, blouses with pants and capris, and other appropriate attire." I'm going to bookmark this post for future 'I told you so' referral. Sent from my LG-D851 using Forums mobile app Sport coat or suit for evenings onshore...that's where I draw the line. No way. But funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted January 14, 2015 #495 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Here's my prediction: Sometime in the next 24 months, Celebrity will change their dress code to match Azmara - "Bare feet, tank tops, baseball caps, bathing suits, shorts, and jeans are not allowed in the main dining room or two specialty restaurants. (Khakis and other trousers are fine.)When dining at Windows Café, guests must wear footwear and a cover-up or shirt.In Prime C, Aqualina and Discoveries Restaurant, many guests enjoying dressing up. Formal evening wear (tuxedos and gowns) is not expected. We recommend that men bring a sport coat or suit; this attire comes in handy for evenings onshore as well. For women, dining attire includes dresses, skirts, blouses with pants and capris, and other appropriate attire." I'm going to bookmark this post for future 'I told you so' referral. Sent from my LG-D851 using Forums mobile app Oh, I hope not. That dress code is too ambiguous and will only cause one argument after another. For example: exactly what does: "In Prime C, Aqualina and Discoveries Restaurant, many guests enjoying dressing up." mean? At most, it is a hint to dress up. At worst, it will be a source of endless questioning. Also: "We recommend....". More ambiguity. A realistic dress code should state the minimum standards in clear and unambiguous terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetWet! Posted January 15, 2015 #496 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Oh, I hope not. That dress code is too ambiguous and will only cause one argument after another. For example: exactly what does: "In Prime C, Aqualina and Discoveries Restaurant, many guests enjoying dressing up." mean? At most, it is a hint to dress up. At worst, it will be a source of endless questioning. Also: "We recommend....". More ambiguity. A realistic dress code should state the minimum standards in clear and unambiguous terms. Have to strongly agree with you about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted January 15, 2015 #497 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Have to strongly agree with you about this. And, I believe we could agree that consistent enforcement would be helpful too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetWet! Posted January 15, 2015 #498 Share Posted January 15, 2015 And, I believe we could agree that consistent enforcement would be helpful too. Most definitely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash3x Posted January 16, 2015 #499 Share Posted January 16, 2015 There are lots of options...room service, buffet, paid resturants. In the end, we bring the jacket, but we always consider not doing so. I know cruisers who go to bistro every formal night. That is 7. Pp. Don't you have to pay to got to the bistro? I know there is the buffet option...but we are buffet "snobs" If the service are requires a sneeze guard over the food we would rather not..we have cruised multiple times and have seen some rude behaviour and not just from children at. Buffets. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Junky Posted January 16, 2015 #500 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Don't you have to pay to got to the bistro? I know there is the buffet option...but we are buffet "snobs" If the service are requires a sneeze guard over the food we would rather not..we have cruised multiple times and have seen some rude behaviour and not just from children at. Buffets. Sent from my iPad using Forums They have great cook to order stations and carving stations. It's not your normal buffet. The stir fry station is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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