CrossBluePerchance Posted January 30, 2018 #526 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Because hat etiquette is hats off indoors. Emily Post would certainly frown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoneill Posted January 30, 2018 #527 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Emily Post would certainly frown.I'm pretty sure the vast majority of diners in the MDR would cause Emily Post to become very stabby. Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerif Posted January 30, 2018 #528 Share Posted January 30, 2018 How exactly is a hat at dinner rude? Yeah, some people thinks it's not appropriate, but I don't think it's rude. There are many things in this thread that are rude, but hats at dinner are just a pet peeve. Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk Someone really needs to read Emily Post - sadly many people need to do so. Actually, one of the rudest things I’ve ever witnessed was in a land restaurant. Family comes in and were seated next to us. Mom, dad and three older teens. One boy was wearing a backwards baseball cap. Mom reached over and removed it. Ah, I thought, a little class after all. Nope. She proceeded to take a brush out of her purse, brush out his longish hair, and replace the cap. OMG. I was horrified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoneill Posted January 30, 2018 #529 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Because hat etiquette is hats off indoors.So a failure to follow etiquette is rude? Which etiquette is the gold standard that all must follow? What is my etiquette book differs from yours? Why is it not rude for a woman to wear a hat but it is for a man? Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoneill Posted January 30, 2018 #530 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Someone really needs to read Emily Post - sadly many people need to do so. Actually, one of the rudest things I’ve ever witnessed was in a land restaurant. Family comes in and were seated next to us. Mom, dad and three older teens. One boy was wearing a backwards baseball cap. Mom reached over and removed it. Ah, I thought, a little class after all. Nope. She proceeded to take a brush out of her purse, brush out his longish hair, and replace the cap. OMG. I was horrified.I have read it. Majority of it is ignored in this day and age. So who decides what we can and can not ignore from it? Her book was great for the 1920's, not so much now. Or should we all keep up with reading every update? And my point is about being rude vs. following etiquette. I do not believe the two are always linked. Using the wrong fork is bad etiquette, but I would not count it as rude. Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveandcruises Posted January 31, 2018 Author #531 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hi, it's me ... the OP again. Something else happened on the very same cruise as the guy with the laptop in the MDR. What do you think of this ... rude or not rude? We were going into our cabin on the Navigator, and a man in the hallway asked if he could come in and see our room. He explained that he was going back on the Navigator in the Spring and had our room. We let him in and he took pictures of the room from all angles, even the bathroom. Then, he proceeded to sit on the couch for -- I kid you not -- 40 minutes to tell us his life story. He was sitting on the couch, and my husband and I were standing up the whole time. My husband even looked at his watch at one point and say, "We have to go to lunch." Finally, he got the message and left. We avoided him for the rest of the cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted January 31, 2018 #532 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hi, it's me ... the OP again. Something else happened on the very same cruise as the guy with the laptop in the MDR. What do you think of this ... rude or not rude? We were going into our cabin on the Navigator, and a man in the hallway asked if he could come in and see our room. He explained that he was going back on the Navigator in the Spring and had our room. We let him in and he took pictures of the room from all angles, even the bathroom. Then, he proceeded to sit on the couch for -- I kid you not -- 40 minutes to tell us his life story. He was sitting on the couch, and my husband and I were standing up the whole time. My husband even looked at his watch at one point and say, "We have to go to lunch." Finally, he got the message and left. We avoided him for the rest of the cruise. Bizarre. Did you have some ultra rare room or something? I wouldn't have let him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted January 31, 2018 #533 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hi, it's me ... the OP again. Something else happened on the very same cruise as the guy with the laptop in the MDR. What do you think of this ... rude or not rude? We were going into our cabin on the Navigator, and a man in the hallway asked if he could come in and see our room. He explained that he was going back on the Navigator in the Spring and had our room. We let him in and he took pictures of the room from all angles, even the bathroom. Then, he proceeded to sit on the couch for -- I kid you not -- 40 minutes to tell us his life story. He was sitting on the couch, and my husband and I were standing up the whole time. My husband even looked at his watch at one point and say, "We have to go to lunch." Finally, he got the message and left. We avoided him for the rest of the cruise. Do you think he was rude? You elected to let him in and pretty much do as he pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Fun Posted January 31, 2018 #534 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Strangest thing I ever saw, was on Oasis a few years back. An elderly lady (guessing 70-80) was in a deck chair across from us on the pool deck. She was wearing a bathing suit (bikini). She spent the entire time laying down, with her legs straight up in the air, with her hands on her hips to hold them up high, and doing various exercise type movements (think bicycle, spread eagle, scissors) We ended up moving...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoneill Posted January 31, 2018 #535 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Strangest thing I ever saw, was on Oasis a few years back. An elderly lady (guessing 70-80) was in a deck chair across from us on the pool deck. She was wearing a bathing suit (bikini). She spent the entire time laying down, with her legs straight up in the air, with her hands on her hips to hold them up high, and doing various exercise type movements (think bicycle, spread eagle, scissors) We ended up moving...lolSo, elderly women exercising is strange? Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyb78 Posted January 31, 2018 #536 Share Posted January 31, 2018 So, elderly women exercising is strange? Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk Alone (as in not part of some kind of organized class or session) in a deck chair on the pool deck doing that sort of exercise I would say yes, it's something you'd normally see in a gym not so much by the pool. Not to say it was rude or impolite, moreso out of place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irie Posted January 31, 2018 #537 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I know this is Royal, but my strange moment was on Holland. We got on an elevator around 9 pm. There was a 70ish man in a sportscoat, in grey briefs only and he had peed himself. We asked if we could help him. He said no thanks and got off. We think he was sober. Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoneill Posted January 31, 2018 #538 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Alone (as in not part of some kind of organized class or session) in a deck chair on the pool deck doing that sort of exercise I would say yes, it's something you'd normally see in a gym not so much by the pool. Not to say it was rude or impolite, moreso out of place. My mother lives in 55+ community in Florida that has a pool. Not an uncommon thing to see. :) Why exercise in a stuffy gym inside when you can do it in fresh air in the sun? :) Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCruzdoggie Posted January 31, 2018 #539 Share Posted January 31, 2018 My mother lives in 55+ community in Florida that has a pool. Not an uncommon thing to see. :) Why exercise in a stuffy gym inside when you can do it in fresh air in the sun? :) Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk The rudest things I've read on the boards is btoneill's posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoneill Posted January 31, 2018 #540 Share Posted January 31, 2018 The rudest things I've read on the boards is btoneill's posts.You should see how I dress in the MDR. Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCruzdoggie Posted January 31, 2018 #541 Share Posted January 31, 2018 You should see how I dress in the MDR. Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk That would nice, excellent......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlepporello Posted January 31, 2018 #542 Share Posted January 31, 2018 You should see how I dress in the MDR. Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk Wear it like a badge of honor. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JessyCruises Posted January 31, 2018 #543 Share Posted January 31, 2018 On my cruise in November 2017 on FOS, we were waiting in Vintages which was the suite waiting area for the concierge to escort us off the ship. There was a woman who was probably 60ish with her elderly husband and her middle aged daughter waiting as well. The mother was a republican who loudly went on and on about how great Trump was and how much he was doing to clamp down on liberal lifestyles and get immigrants out of the country. Keep in mind this was the Pied Piper Cruise so there were lots of LGBTQ folks in the room and onboard in general. Everyone in the room were rolling their eyes and tried to ignore her - everyone is entitled to their opinion after all. The icing on the cake though was when she was chatting up a German couple about how great the wall would be when it’s built and asking them if they had ever thought about building a wall in Germany. [emoji848] I felt like walking up to her and saying “Seriously? Pick up a history book. Been there done that and it did not go over so well...”. One of the guys who was waiting in line behind me said he wanted to build a wall around her. I think she had been giving the poor concierge a hard time the whole Cruise. The concierge politely snapped back at her when she started complaining about the wait in vintages to exit - the lady had obviously not read the instructions. The concierge looked pretty happy to see her go. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balkor2 Posted January 31, 2018 #544 Share Posted January 31, 2018 How exactly is a hat at dinner rude? Yeah, some people thinks it's not appropriate, but I don't think it's rude. There are many things in this thread that are rude, but hats at dinner are just a pet peeve. Per vocabulary.com "Disrespectful words and actions are rude and show a lack of respect. " My parents generation defined it to be disrespectful for a male to have a hat on while indoors and especially at dinner. My fanny would have been dusted for sure if my mother were alive today and I showed up at the dinning table with a hat on. For a female on the other hand, covering her head is proper. I perceive that it is also biblical 1 Corinthians 11:5 So from my upbringing it is rude for a male to wear a hat at the dinning table. Outdoor lunch or something of that manner can be open but from my parents perspective there is no discussion, MDR + Male W/ Hat on = Rude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditmar2007 Posted January 31, 2018 #545 Share Posted January 31, 2018 So from my upbringing it is rude for a male to wear a hat at the dinning table. Hat on = Rude My Gram thought I looked like a prostitute when I dyed my hair henna red. My Grampa commented on my long hair not being tied at the back. Called it 'Bedchamber hair'. Not for public viewing. In my Mom's days it was not proper for a lady to smoke on the street. Customs change over time. I believe the 'no hat on a male head indoors' only applies in churches in my country now a days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoneill Posted January 31, 2018 #546 Share Posted January 31, 2018 My parents generation defined it to be disrespectful for a male to have a hat on while indoors and especially at dinner. My parents generation found it disrespectful for a black person to sit at the front of a bus or drink out of the wrong water fountain. I gave up caring about what my parents generation considered "respect" long ago. What someone else does that has no actual impact on you should not upset you or be considered as "rude" to you. Some guy sitting on the other side of a room eating food with a hat on who has no idea of your existence only impacts you because you want to force your own code of conduct on them, which is rude. Changing a dipper on a dining room table is rude. The smell and sight can make someone physically ill. Not to mention the health issues. Kids running around uncontrolled screaming is rude. It affects your ability to have a conversation. A guy peeing on deck, gross among many other things Smeering poop in bathroom, I don't even need to say why it's rude People smoking in non-smoking sections, you smell it, if affects you. There is nothing you can do to stop it. People having sex in hot tubs, rude and unhygienic, not to mention the fact that water makes a horrible lube. Those are all things that can affect you. I also find the fact that you bring up a Bible verse as being justification rude. Like, because it's in the Bible we should do it? Trying to push your Judeo-Christian values on someone else is rude. We live in a society of people who are of many religions and should feel free to exercise their beliefs without people judging them based on their own religious beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenofKrakatoa Posted January 31, 2018 #547 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Per vocabulary.com "Disrespectful words and actions are rude and show a lack of respect. "My parents generation defined it to be disrespectful for a male to have a hat on while indoors and especially at dinner. My fanny would have been dusted for sure if my mother were alive today and I showed up at the dinning table with a hat on. For a female on the other hand, covering her head is proper. I perceive that it is also biblical 1 Corinthians 11:5 So from my upbringing it is rude for a male to wear a hat at the dinning table. Outdoor lunch or something of that manner can be open but from my parents perspective there is no discussion, MDR + Male W/ Hat on = Rude Not all of us are religious, so quoting the Bible at us doesn't mean anything. If your own religion has ruled against hats, then don't wear hats. But don't expect us to follow the same rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted January 31, 2018 #548 Share Posted January 31, 2018 On my cruise in November 2017 on FOS, we were waiting in Vintages which was the suite waiting area for the concierge to escort us off the ship. There was a woman who was probably 60ish with her elderly husband and her middle aged daughter waiting as well. The mother was a republican who loudly went on and on about how great Trump was and how much he was doing to clamp down on liberal lifestyles and get immigrants out of the country. Keep in mind this was the Pied Piper Cruise so there were lots of LGBTQ folks in the room and onboard in general. Everyone in the room were rolling their eyes and tried to ignore her - everyone is entitled to their opinion after all. The icing on the cake though was when she was chatting up a German couple about how great the wall would be when it’s built and asking them if they had ever thought about building a wall in Germany. [emoji848] I felt like walking up to her and saying “Seriously? Pick up a history book. Been there done that and it did not go over so well...”. One of the guys who was waiting in line behind me said he wanted to build a wall around her. I think she had been giving the poor concierge a hard time the whole Cruise. The concierge politely snapped back at her when she started complaining about the wait in vintages to exit - the lady had obviously not read the instructions. The concierge looked pretty happy to see her go. Sent from my iPad using Forums So are you saying anyone for MAGA or Trump or for the Wall is rude? What about hats? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoneill Posted January 31, 2018 #549 Share Posted January 31, 2018 So are you saying anyone for MAGA or Trump or for the Wall is rude? I'd say loudly talking in public about politics and/or religion could be considered by some to be rude, especially if you're doing it knowing it will upset people around you. Doesn't matter which side of the fence (or wall) you're on. :) And I thank you for your service to our country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatka Posted January 31, 2018 #550 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Wow.. that woman. Not even illegal immigrants, but immigrants! I am sure she is an immigrant herself in some generation. And talking to German guests about a wall?! Some people are just plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts