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Wanted to vent a little, and I think that it needs to be said.

Well my hubby and me(25 plus cruises) love the benefit of self disembarkment whenever the cruise ship docks at its end.

We always get up early clear out of the room and like to get down to the "assigned" area to wait for the ship to be cleared for disembarkment by customs. We have been platinum members for quite a while.

 

What is wrong with people who saunder down to the area at the last minute and think that they can stand in front of you and get off the ship before you??? We are all adults right? Well today I decided that I would make them famous by taking their pictures and telling them I was gonna post their pictures as line cutters.

 

I dont think you should have to even have a conversation with adults, cause they know. One of the line cutters told me that she had it done to her before and she didnt like it. Why would she do that then?? Are people getting more stupid??

 

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While I sympathize with your frustration, threatening others’ is not a mature way of handling the situation...nor is calling them names.

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Wanted to vent a little, and I think that it needs to be said.

Well my hubby and me(25 plus cruises) love the benefit of self disembarkment whenever the cruise ship docks at its end.

We always get up early clear out of the room and like to get down to the "assigned" area to wait for the ship to be cleared for disembarkment by customs. We have been platinum members for quite a while.

 

What is wrong with people who saunder down to the area at the last minute and think that they can stand in front of you and get off the ship before you??? We are all adults right? Well today I decided that I would make them famous by taking their pictures and telling them I was gonna post their pictures as line cutters.

 

I dont think you should have to even have a conversation with adults, cause they know. One of the line cutters told me that she had it done to her before and she didnt like it. Why would she do that then?? Are people getting more stupid??

 

Thanks

How horrible that the people who come later and are unable to get past the people who are crowded at the entrance with luggage blocking the way are forced to wait in the hallway.

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Not sure what posting their pictures and trying to publicly shame them will do. Some people are inconsiderate, that’s been the way of the world for quite some time. It’s unfortunate, but in the grand scheme of things does it really negatively impact your life significantly?

 

 

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There are dumb people everywhere. Just look at how many line up by the gangway and clog the staircases going up for decks when they are told not to. You can’t fix stupid and rude. And those are people of all card colors so it’s not exclusive.

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Where’s the picture, So I can give them a dirty look or a small kick if I see them? ;p

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Think this will change anything, or just venting? I'd guess that those on you cruise won't see your post here.

 

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Why worry yourself over such unnecessary things? All it will do is raise your blood pressure. You don't get a ship on a stick for being the 1st one off the ship. Let it go and don't worry about it and your day will be a heck of a lot less stressful.

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While I do find this frustrating, it does get very cramped and getting past all those by the door can be difficult for the late arrivals. In the grand scheme of things, these people "line jumpers" are beating me out the door by what 10 minutes?

 

The far more frustrating thing for me is all these people with their GIGANTIC LUGGAGE that can't manage it and drop it, trip me, run me over, plow over everyone and oh yea, wait until the last minute when they are standing at the door to try to "find" their sail and sign card for 10 minutes because they can't remember where they put it!

 

Sorry guys, if you can't handle your luggage and be ready with everything you need to go out the door right at hand - DON'T DO SELF ASSIST!

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Wanted to vent a little, and I think that it needs to be said.

Well my hubby and me(25 plus cruises) love the benefit of self disembarkment whenever the cruise ship docks at its end.

We always get up early clear out of the room and like to get down to the "assigned" area to wait for the ship to be cleared for disembarkment by customs. We have been platinum members for quite a while.

 

What is wrong with people who saunder down to the area at the last minute and think that they can stand in front of you and get off the ship before you??? We are all adults right? Well today I decided that I would make them famous by taking their pictures and telling them I was gonna post their pictures as line cutters.

 

I dont think you should have to even have a conversation with adults, cause they know. One of the line cutters told me that she had it done to her before and she didnt like it. Why would she do that then?? Are people getting more stupid??

 

Thanks

 

I save all that frustration by not waking up until 8am or so, clearing our room around 830am and having breakfast at the buffet. Then we sit on the lido enjoying the last moments waiting for last call to get off the ship.

 

We are able to walk right off (and we carry on our own luggage, so no looking for at after).

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Wanted to vent a little, and I think that it needs to be said.

Well my hubby and me(25 plus cruises) love the benefit of self disembarkment whenever the cruise ship docks at its end.

We always get up early clear out of the room and like to get down to the "assigned" area to wait for the ship to be cleared for disembarkment by customs. We have been platinum members for quite a while.

 

What is wrong with people who saunder down to the area at the last minute and think that they can stand in front of you and get off the ship before you??? We are all adults right? Well today I decided that I would make them famous by taking their pictures and telling them I was gonna post their pictures as line cutters.

 

I dont think you should have to even have a conversation with adults, cause they know. One of the line cutters told me that she had it done to her before and she didnt like it. Why would she do that then?? Are people getting more stupid??

 

Thanks

While I agree with your frustration, I disagree with your proposed way of handling line-cutters. To deliberately take a photo of someone without their express permission and then post it online for the purpose of shaming them, to me, is itself shameful.

I remember the days when a newspaper was loathe to publish a photo with recognizable faces of bystanders without their written permission. Perhaps, I am old fashioned.

In short, two "wrongs" don't make a "right": The line-cutting (if intentional) is wrong, but so is posting their photos IMHO. Food for thought.

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Why is your thread directed towards Platinums?????

smh.............

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I used to get a kick from being able to sign up for Luggage express. We got lots of "death stares" from passengers doing self assist with all their luggage in tow, waiting, impatiently, to get through to customs as we strolled past those waiting.

Ah, the good old days, eh?

(I know this comment wasn't called for, but..........) ;p

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Why worry yourself over such unnecessary things? All it will do is raise your blood pressure. You don't get a ship on a stick for being the 1st one off the ship. Let it go and don't worry about it and your day will be a heck of a lot less stressful.

Agree totally. While I am often at a loss for words at the inconsideration of so many people these days, I try not to let it raise my blood pressure. I always remind myself, no matter how bothered I am by their inconsideration, that I must not allow myself descend to the level of that selfish person because then I would be no better off and neither would anyone else. Having said that, I am hoping that the pendulum will start to swing back towards people practicing their manners again.

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The irony is that I see these rude people as being the same ones earlier in the cruise who were calling people snowflakes.

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Easiest way to keep someone from skipping you is to take up the room in front of you.

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It's even worse when you're solo and people think they can just walk around you because there's more space around you. While disembarking down the ramp towards customs on my last cruise this impatient guy tried to squeeze right past me while going around the curve of the ramp. I moved over quickly and blocked him and received the most evil look in return and I didn't care. I can't stand those types who think they're special! When you walk just hold out your bags and block em!

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What does being Platinum have to do with the rant? There will always be rude people trying to be the first in line anywhere. Not worth raising your blood pressure over it. DH and I sit and wait in the special needs area on the last morning because I need a wheelchair to go the long distance from the ship to our car at Valet parking. It is amazing at the number of people trying to do self assist with so much luggage they can barely wrangle it and bump into people around them. Also, the number of people trying to get off the ship who are not Platinums/Diamonds or self assists and they are directed back to the appropriate decks to wait. Hats off to the Carnival staff who good naturedly redirect them. There are non-special needs passengers who haul their luggage to our area and sit, totally disregarding the very obvious signs saying it is a special needs area. Again, the staff politely tell them what the area is for and they are redirected to their proper staging areas.

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<<There are non-special needs passengers who haul their luggage to our area and sit, totally disregarding the very obvious signs saying it is a special needs area. Again, the staff politely tell them what the area is for and they are redirected to their proper staging areas>>

 

 

And how do you know who is special needs and who isn't? Are you polling each one? FYI, I am Deaf and unless you spoke directly to me, you wouldn't know it. So next time you accuse someone of hauling their luggage into YOUR area, please keep this in mind. Not everyone's special needs is immediately visible to you.

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It's even worse when you're solo and people think they can just walk around you because there's more space around you. While disembarking down the ramp towards customs on my last cruise this impatient guy tried to squeeze right past me while going around the curve of the ramp. I moved over quickly and blocked him and received the most evil look in return and I didn't care. I can't stand those types who think they're special! When you walk just hold out your bags and block em!

 

 

 

You block someone’s path only for the sake of not letting them by you, even though there’s room and they might be moving quicker and more efficiently?

 

Classy. Move up and occupy the space in front of you to avoid this in the future. My wife and I will happily pass you or any other single if they aren’t moving at a decent pace. Stay with the line and all this is moot. No?

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You block someone’s path only for the sake of not letting them by you, even though there’s room and they might be moving quicker and more efficiently?

 

Classy. Move up and occupy the space in front of you to avoid this in the future. My wife and I will happily pass you or any other single if they aren’t moving at a decent pace. Stay with the line and all this is moot. No?

 

So you're justifying line cutting then?! And FYI i'm not old, I carry one bag and move very quickly. But there's always those that still just HAVE to go faster and get ahead. And yes, those people I will happily block.

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Wanted to vent a little, and I think that it needs to be said.

Well my hubby and me(25 plus cruises) love the benefit of self disembarkment whenever the cruise ship docks at its end.

We always get up early clear out of the room and like to get down to the "assigned" area to wait for the ship to be cleared for disembarkment by customs. We have been platinum members for quite a while.

 

What is wrong with people who saunder down to the area at the last minute and think that they can stand in front of you and get off the ship before you??? We are all adults right? Well today I decided that I would make them famous by taking their pictures and telling them I was gonna post their pictures as line cutters.

 

I dont think you should have to even have a conversation with adults, cause they know. One of the line cutters told me that she had it done to her before and she didnt like it. Why would she do that then?? Are people getting more stupid??

 

Thanks

ok........

 

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Part of the problem is the whole debarkation system is rather inefficient and the cruise staff does very little to ask people to go to their assigned areas. As a result it becomes a cluster (you know what).

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I believe that the OP was just 'threatening' to post the pictures, I didn't read in their comment that they actually intended to follow through on it.

 

I tend to get very annoyed with people who don't believe they're required to stand in line like the rest of us and will jump ahead just because they can. I will keep pace with the group in front exiting the ship, but I also don't want to walk on people's heels! And for some, if I leave 3 feet between me and the person in front of me as we're walking, that indicates that they should be able to squeeze in front of me and crowd that person in front of me!

 

While I may not be able to avoid your rudeness, I definitely won't give you the same courtesy I was giving the person you're now behind! I'll cram up as close behind you as I can... PLEASE say something to me!

 

(Ahh, who am I kidding! I'm too passive aggressive! Even if you said something to me I'd just probably ignore you rather than get into a verbal battle about it!)

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<<There are non-special needs passengers who haul their luggage to our area and sit, totally disregarding the very obvious signs saying it is a special needs area. Again, the staff politely tell them what the area is for and they are redirected to their proper staging areas>>

 

 

And how do you know who is special needs and who isn't? Are you polling each one? FYI, I am Deaf and unless you spoke directly to me, you wouldn't know it. So next time you accuse someone of hauling their luggage into YOUR area, please keep this in mind. Not everyone's special needs is immediately visible to you.

I am wondering- DEFINITELY not being confrontational- but why would a deaf person need to sit in the Special Needs sitting area? I'm not challenging your right to site there at all, I just am honestly curious... what service does Carnival provide to you by allowing you to use that area?

 

Is it so you can be given visual queues as to debarking instructions? Or something else I wasn't aware of....

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So you're justifying line cutting then?! And FYI i'm not old, I carry one bag and move very quickly. But there's always those that still just HAVE to go faster and get ahead. And yes, those people I will happily block.

 

 

 

I’m not justifying line cutting whatsoever, but I will justify passing someone that isn’t taking up the space in front of them in the line, especially if we’re all walking and spread out.

 

No different than sitting in traffic in a car. People that are going faster can and should pass stragglers. People want to get off the ship at their pace, not yours.

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I'll cram up as close behind you as I can...

 

 

 

Good. That’s exactly what the ship wants you to do. Get off in the most efficient manner. Vacation is over.

 

I’ll never just step in front of someone if we’re all waiting in a line, but if the line is moving smoothly and you fall behind, expect to be passed. There’s really nothing wrong with that.

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I am wondering- DEFINITELY not being confrontational- but why would a deaf person need to sit in the Special Needs sitting area? I'm not challenging your right to site there at all, I just am honestly curious... what service does Carnival provide to you by allowing you to use that area?

 

Is it so you can be given visual queues as to debarking instructions? Or something else I wasn't aware of....

 

Exactly that. For the visual cues provided since I can't hear when the PA system calls all the groups. However, on my last cruise a Carnival rep just brought me to the dining room and let me know when it was time for me to go. Looking back, i'm not even sure that was a special needs area, but just early debarking group.

In any case, my point in the previous post was simply that you can't immediately identify everyone's special needs by glancing at them and it's wrong to make assumptions like the poster did.

I do the same when flying too since I can't hear the boarding announcements so i'm allowed early boarding which is actually a nice perk since I always have first access to overhead bins. Sometimes it pays to be disabled. :)

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I’m not justifying line cutting whatsoever, but I will justify passing someone that isn’t taking up the space in front of them in the line, especially if we’re all walking and spread out.

 

No different than sitting in traffic in a car. People that are going faster can and should pass stragglers. People want to get off the ship at their pace, not yours.

 

 

What's your hurry? To be first in the customs line? I'm genuinely curious.

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What's your hurry? To be first in the customs line? I'm genuinely curious.

 

 

 

My pace of life is my prerogative. You genuinely think people need to move at your pace if there’s a gap in front of you and you’re holding up an otherwise quickly moving line? That’s the definition of being selfish.

 

Do you wait in a slow traffic lane or would you go around the person in front of you if you were driving quicker? I’m genuinely curious.

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Good. That’s exactly what the ship wants you to do. Get off in the most efficient manner. Vacation is over.

 

I’ll never just step in front of someone if we’re all waiting in a line, but if the line is moving smoothly and you fall behind, expect to be passed. There’s really nothing wrong with that.

OK I wasn't going to say anything after your last post about the traffic and keeping up, but this is exactly what annoys me- if I leave safe stopping distance in front of me, some dunderhead is going to inevitably jam his overpriced Lexus in between me and the car in front of me, forcing me to break or else leave a foot and a half between our bumpers! If I'm lagging far behind the traffic, of course I don't care of someone cuts in front, but it's stupid & rude to do it if there's barely enough room for your car!

 

And this is the same thing when exiting the ship! I shouldn't have to invade someone's personal space and cram up against them just to prevent some rudee rube from jumping in front of the 2 feet I left in front of me!

 

Be reasonable! and considerate! and don't cut me off in traffic- remember Fried Green Tomatoes... you may be younger and faster but I'm older and have more insurance!

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Reasonable and considerate is exactly what I’m preaching if there’s a legit line, be patient. If it’s a flowing walking path to customs and your moving at a slower pace than others, be prepared to be passed. I don’t see what the issue is with this logic.

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We’ve had this same issue but on my last cruise it was well organized. On the vista when you enter the assigned station (dining room), you are instructed exactly where to place your suitcase. We were also instructed to have suitcase turned to the correct position so you could easily grab it and walk forward. After the suitcase was parked, you could sit wherever until your line of suitcases was called to debark. Those that came in later were escorted to the back of the suitcase line to leave their bag. It was well organized. Once the go ahead was given we went to our suitcase and simply followed the line out.

 

 

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My pace of life is my prerogative. You genuinely think people need to move at your pace if there’s a gap in front of you and you’re holding up an otherwise quickly moving line? That’s the definition of being selfish.

 

Do you wait in a slow traffic lane or would you go around the person in front of you if you were driving quicker? I’m genuinely curious.

 

 

Please don't put words in my mouth. Nowhere did I make that declaration, and this is the second time you made the incorrect assumption that others are moving at a slower pace or "holding up" the line.

That's another issue entirely to what we're discussing here which is people who cut in front of others in line while disembarking in a normal moving line. No one is talking about slow pokes who hold up the line, but regular moving people and selfish entitled people who try and squeeze past them.

And yes, I say squeeze past because that's what my experience was that I mentioned earlier in the thread. The guy literally attempted to SQUEEZE past between me and the wall while I was moving at a quick pace.

You'd think he was escaping a fire the way he was trying to get by...and I swung my bag over closing that space effectively blocking him from doing so.

That wasn't just trying to keep the flow of the line going smoothly....he was an out and out line cutter who thought his time was more important than everyone else's.

And FYI, there were no "gaps" in the line....it was crowded like cattle and when lines are filled like that you DON'T try and cut. Just keep your place in line and go with the flow.

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These are things I never even think of, but as I read this thread I keep hearing my 7 year old in the back of my head (as he has this problem with the drinking fountain at recess lol) and as he would advise simply say "no cuts, no butts, no coconuts"...

 

Come on people...first world problems much......

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Some people just think rules pertain for everyone but them.... Plain obnoxious Ignorance and rudeness

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I just eat burritos with heavy beans the night before disembarking. I then stand in line with my luggage and let nature take it's course. Never have folks trying to get too close to me......

Obviously I'm kidding. This whole thread should be used when teaching second graders how to act. Let's act like adults and hope that those around do the same. Life is way too short to die from a heart attack from others behavior.......

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Wanted to vent a little, and I think that it needs to be said.

 

Well my hubby and me(25 plus cruises) love the benefit of self disembarkment whenever the cruise ship docks at its end.

 

We always get up early clear out of the room and like to get down to the "assigned" area to wait for the ship to be cleared for disembarkment by customs. We have been platinum members for quite a while.

 

 

 

What is wrong with people who saunder down to the area at the last minute and think that they can stand in front of you and get off the ship before you??? We are all adults right? Well today I decided that I would make them famous by taking their pictures and telling them I was gonna post their pictures as line cutters.

 

 

 

I dont think you should have to even have a conversation with adults, cause they know. One of the line cutters told me that she had it done to her before and she didnt like it. Why would she do that then?? Are people getting more stupid??

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

And when you mess with that one hothead that punches you. What next? You must be prepared for retaliation.

 

Sometimes in life you need to pick your battles wisely. In five minutes time, they are out of your life forever.

 

 

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