KiwiGal117 Posted October 2, 2018 #1 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Hi CC friends: I just received this email about my March 2019 Symphony cruise: ABOUT YOUR UPCOMING TRAVELS Dear Guest, We have an itinerary update to share with you for our March 9, 2019, Symphony of the Seas cruise. As a result of low water depths and docking issues at the port in Miami, Florida, we’ve adjusted the time we will be in Nassau, Bahamas. We’ll now be there at 7:00 AM to 4:00 PM instead of 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM to ensure we arrive back in Miami as scheduled. In the Bahamas, start your day off by exploring the streets and tunnels of the lost city of Atlantis while viewing stunning marine life exhibits. Once you’ve worked up an appetite with all there is to do there, head to Arawak Cay on West Bay Street in Nassau. This popular area is home to a variety of authentic Bahamian restaurants, featuring traditional dishes and ice-cold beverages with a local twist! Additionally, any pre-paid shore excursions scheduled for Nassau will be rescheduled for you. Within the next 2 business days, you’ll receive an email from our Shore Excursions Department advising of your updated shore excursion details. You’re also welcomed to book any additional excursion that interest you via our Cruise Planner at http://*******/RCCruisePlanner. Thank you for understanding and we can’t wait to welcome you onboard for a thrill seeking, adventure packed vacation. Sincerely, Royal Caribbean International I just thought I'd share, but also wondered if anyone else has heard anything about what the docking issues are? Is the terminal not going to be ready, or is it simply anticipated water levels in March? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcgrumpy Posted October 2, 2018 #2 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I'm on Allure out of Miami in November and haven't heard anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taglovestocruise Posted October 2, 2018 #3 Share Posted October 2, 2018 We will be on Symphony arriving at the new terminal in Miami Nov 9 and have not heard a word about changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rain777 Posted October 2, 2018 #4 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I received the same email. Sounds like our time in the Bahamas will be cut short unless you get up at 7am for your tours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BillOh Posted October 2, 2018 #5 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I didn't search to see if any else posted, but my cruise isn't for 200 days, I'm guessing everyone sailing an Oasis class out of Miami, at least Eastern itinerary might have got this message. Dear Guest, We have an itinerary update to share with you for our April 27, 2019, Symphony of the Seas cruise. As a result of low water depths and docking issues at the port in Miami, Florida, we’ve adjusted our departure time from Nassau, Bahamas. We’ll now depart Nassau at 4:00 PM instead of 6:00 PM, to ensure we arrive back in Miami as scheduled. We are truly sorry for the impact to your vacation, however, we know you’ll have a blast while in the Bahamas. Start your day off by exploring the streets and tunnels of the lost city of Atlantis while viewing stunning marine life exhibits. Once you’ve worked up an appetite, head to Arawak Cay on West Bay Street in Nassau. This popular area is home to a variety of authentic Bahamian restaurants, featuring traditional dishes and ice-cold beverages with a local twist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiGal117 Posted October 2, 2018 Author #6 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I received the same email. Sounds like our time in the Bahamas will be cut short unless you get up at 7am for your tours! It won't be me! That's a bit early and I'm on vacation!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BillOh Posted October 2, 2018 #7 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) This will bear watching when Symphony arrives in Miami in November I think it is. Allure was headed to Miami, but I have lost track if they changed that. Low water levels? I thought global warming was raising sea levels. Maybe changes after the 2017 hurricane season? I wonder what they are seeing with the existing ships that are there. They are allowing more time to get back to Miami, I wonder if they will leave earlier? Edited October 2, 2018 by BillOh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcgrumpy Posted October 2, 2018 #8 Share Posted October 2, 2018 This will bear watching when Symphony arrives in Miami in November I think it is. Allure was headed to Miami, but I have lost track if they changed that. Low water levels? I though global warming was raising sea levels. I wonder what they are seeing with the existing ships that are there. They are allowing more time to get back to Miami, I wonder if they will leave earlier? Allure is still scheduled to move to Miami on November 5th. We're on the November 11th sailing out of Miami. We're doing a Western itinerary and didn't receive an email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveru621 Posted October 2, 2018 #9 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Who dumped all that sand in the harbor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_BJ Posted October 2, 2018 #10 Share Posted October 2, 2018 since a weather issue obviously can't be determined this far out my guess would be something that IS predictable and that would be tides . . . perchance an unusually low tide is predicted forcing an earlier than normal arrival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted October 2, 2018 #11 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Sounds like someone forgot to dredge around Terminal A. Should have had more cushion. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillB48 Posted October 2, 2018 #12 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Looked up the tides for Mar 9 '19 and they do have a slight minus tide right around 4PM at -0.2ft. The Corps of Engineers say the cruise ship channel is now down to 36'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumbaamd Posted October 2, 2018 #13 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Could have something to do with her having to back in as the turning basin will not be used. There is a previous thread here on CC concerning that item. R&D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W2N Posted October 2, 2018 #14 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Receive this email a little bit ago. I think they might need to do some dredging around the new terminal. ABOUT YOUR UPCOMING TRAVELS Dear Guest, We have an itinerary update to share with you for our November 17, 2018, Symphony of the Seas cruise. As a result of low water depths and docking issues at the port in Miami, Florida, we’ve adjusted the time we will be in Nassau, Bahamas. We’ll now be there at 7:00 AM to 4:00 PM instead of 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM to ensure we arrive back in Miami as scheduled. In the Bahamas, start your day off by exploring the streets and tunnels of the lost city of Atlantis while viewing stunning marine life exhibits. Once you’ve worked up an appetite with all there is to do there, head to Arawak Cay on West Bay Street in Nassau. This popular area is home to a variety of authentic Bahamian restaurants, featuring traditional dishes and ice-cold beverages with a local twist! Additionally, any pre-paid shore excursions scheduled for Nassau will be rescheduled for you. Within the next 2 business days, you’ll receive an email from our Shore Excursions Department advising of your updated shore excursion details. You’re also welcomed to book any additional excursion that interest you via our Cruise Planner at http://*******/RCCruisePlanner. Thank you for understanding and we can’t wait to welcome you onboard for a thrill seeking, adventure packed vacation. Sincerely, Royal Caribbean International Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwar2cf Posted October 2, 2018 #15 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Same email for February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillB48 Posted October 2, 2018 #16 Share Posted October 2, 2018 On the Nov. 17 sailing, returning to Miami On Nov. 24 there is a small minus tide at 2:21AM of -0.1 and then you have an incoming tide. The Fischer Island Turning Basin is 48' deep so there should not be an issue there. The USACE says the channel is 36' deep, perhaps the draft of the Symphony maybe technically outside of the limits in the portion of the channel she is going to use. Where I used to work, there had to 5' between the keel and the channel bottom. I really don't know what parameters the POM and Royal are working with, but maybe the height of the tide is just not quite enough and they want to be at the channel entrance with the tide high enough??? My best guess anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted October 3, 2018 #17 Share Posted October 3, 2018 It should work out great for those not in a hurry to go ashore....many of the masses will exit the ship, leaving breakfast to be quieter and more leisurely! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W2N Posted October 3, 2018 #18 Share Posted October 3, 2018 I think there cutting it a bit close if they need to worry about the tide to get in or out. I worked sea rescue in the Tampa Bay area and the difference between high and low tide was only 3 or 4 ft. Not like Alaska where it's 30 ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredflint Posted October 3, 2018 #19 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Tide for March shows -1 ft too http://tides.mobilegeographics.com/locations/3751.html?y=2019&m=3&d=9 I think that Royal has their own dock so it is not a matter of who gets the best spot to dock, so it probably is some place in between as has been stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatour Posted October 3, 2018 #20 Share Posted October 3, 2018 So much for dredging the Miami channel to 50 feet. Now in all seriousness, I am guessing this is a side channel. Still shows poor planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted October 3, 2018 #21 Share Posted October 3, 2018 I don't think this is a depth problem for Symphony of the Seas. I think it is a Port Miami operations problem. The post Panamax cargo ships are having trouble entering the channel, and need to schedule their arrivals months in advance. My guess is that the earlier arrival is needed to ensure Symphony can enter the channel on time given the other shipping traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishOn55 Posted October 3, 2018 #22 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Receive this email a little bit ago. I think they might need to do some dredging around the new terminal. ABOUT YOUR UPCOMING TRAVELS Dear Guest, We have an itinerary update to share with you for our November 17, 2018, Symphony of the Seas cruise. As a result of low water depths and docking issues at the port in Miami, Florida, we’ve adjusted the time we will be in Nassau, Bahamas. We’ll now be there at 7:00 AM to 4:00 PM instead of 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM to ensure we arrive back in Miami as scheduled. In the Bahamas, start your day off by exploring the streets and tunnels of the lost city of Atlantis while viewing stunning marine life exhibits. Once you’ve worked up an appetite with all there is to do there, head to Arawak Cay on West Bay Street in Nassau. This popular area is home to a variety of authentic Bahamian restaurants, featuring traditional dishes and ice-cold beverages with a local twist! Additionally, any pre-paid shore excursions scheduled for Nassau will be rescheduled for you. Within the next 2 business days, you’ll receive an email from our Shore Excursions Department advising of your updated shore excursion details. You’re also welcomed to book any additional excursion that interest you via our Cruise Planner at http://*******/RCCruisePlanner. Thank you for understanding and we can’t wait to welcome you onboard for a thrill seeking, adventure packed vacation. Sincerely, Royal Caribbean International Looks like my Symphony cruise Nov. 24, 2018 may be next. Haven't received any change info as yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foosguy Posted October 3, 2018 #23 Share Posted October 3, 2018 I got notified for March 30th, 2019 Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisecrazymama Posted October 3, 2018 #24 Share Posted October 3, 2018 We are on Allure Eastern Nov 18th thru 25th. No email as yet. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kokomo91165 Posted October 3, 2018 #25 Share Posted October 3, 2018 The issue deals with SY needing to be one of first ships in Miami to do turnaround in main basin by Fisher Island and to not hold up incoming vessels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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