clo Posted July 2, 2019 #126 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 minute ago, evandbob said: With carry luggage, I can be in a taxi halfway to the cruise port with everything I need while others on my flight are just beginning to see their luggage carousel start to move. But for any trip we arrive at least the day before so rushing is never an issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted July 2, 2019 #127 Share Posted July 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, evandbob said: Just make sure your pop top wine has a good vintage date, like last Tuesday. 😄😄😁 Of course if lt’s a Beaujolais we’re talking about, last Friday would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evandbob Posted July 2, 2019 #128 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) Has anyone mentioned a dental repair kit? I bring a small dental adhesive for a filling that falls out or a crown that comes loose. It might be mentioned that anyone catching noro on a ship should not use immodium, pepto or other anti diarrheal. Staying hydrated and letting noro run its course is the quickest way to get the virus out of your system. Edited July 2, 2019 by evandbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC in CA Posted July 2, 2019 Author #129 Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 hours ago, evandbob said: Something wrong in this picture!!??!! Absolutely! Thank goodness you were able to get replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Itchy&Scratchy Posted July 2, 2019 #130 Share Posted July 2, 2019 3 hours ago, evandbob said: In Barcelona, I went to a "pharmacia" and described my situation. well, I would trust a pharmacy in Europe, but not necessarily in other parts of the world... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted July 2, 2019 #131 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) We had excellent experiences with pharmacies in Kuala Lumpur, in Ko Lanta, Thailand, and in Rio. No issues. Perhaps it was good fortune. Edited July 2, 2019 by iancal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slidergirl Posted July 2, 2019 #132 Share Posted July 2, 2019 31 minutes ago, iancal said: We had excellent experiences with pharmacies in Kuala Lumpur, in Ko Lanta, Thailand, and in Rio. No issues. Perhaps it was good fortune. I've had good experiences with pharmacies in Cairo, multiple places in Europe, Grand Cayman, even Puerto Vallarta and Tijuana. Maybe I've been lucky, too! I always have some ibuprofen in my purse, along with a few bandaids ("plasters") - I'm really clumsy. I also have a tiny pair of tweezers in my purse. I don't do much else special for a "travel" kit. If I need something, I can always get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizmark'sMom Posted July 2, 2019 #133 Share Posted July 2, 2019 I can vouch for pharmacies in Puerto Vallarta, Illulisat, Ushuaia, and Nuremberg. No issues at all with the service or the medications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted July 3, 2019 #134 Share Posted July 3, 2019 6 hours ago, evandbob said: t might be mentioned that anyone catching noro on a ship should not use immodium, pepto or other anti diarrheal. Staying hydrated and letting noro run its course is the quickest way to get the virus out of your system. Could you provide a reputable citation to support this please? I'm not doubting you but would like it verified. TIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted July 3, 2019 #135 Share Posted July 3, 2019 3 hours ago, iancal said: We had excellent experiences with pharmacies in Kuala Lumpur, in Ko Lanta, Thailand, and in Rio. No issues. Perhaps it was good fortune. I believe that being from an English speaking country has a huge amount to do with "good fortune." 🙂 And I've had that also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evandbob Posted July 3, 2019 #136 Share Posted July 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, clo said: Could you provide a reputable citation to support this please? I'm not doubting you but would like it verified. TIA. Google is my friend and can be yours too. Google "Norovirus and Immodium". Or try norovirus on webMD or another general mediacl site. You'll find plenty of reputable citations to support my statement. I actually thought most CC posters would know this since it gets discussed frequently here. Many nurses chime in whenever it's reported there's a ship with a noro outbreak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted July 3, 2019 #137 Share Posted July 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, evandbob said: Google is my friend and can be yours too. Google "Norovirus and Immodium". Or try norovirus on webMD or another general mediacl site. You'll find plenty of reputable citations to support my statement. I actually thought most CC posters would know this since it gets discussed frequently here. Many nurses chime in whenever it's reported there's a ship with a noro outbreak. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK518995/ Scroll down to "treatment/management. I have a ton of medical background and thank the she-gods every day for Google. It can be your friend also. webMD is not what I would depend on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calliopecruiser Posted July 3, 2019 #138 Share Posted July 3, 2019 1 minute ago, clo said: webMD is not what I would depend on Yes - I think of it like Wikipedia......some good information to help you search for and navigate to more dependable websites. Staying hydrated in the face of nasty diarrhea can be a challenge; there are times when an anti-diarrheal is called for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted July 3, 2019 #139 Share Posted July 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, calliopecruiser said: Yes - I think of it like Wikipedia......some good information to help you search for and navigate to more dependable websites. Staying hydrated in the face of nasty diarrhea can be a challenge; there are times when an anti-diarrheal is called for. And I thank the she-gods for you also 🙂 Unfortunately the 'average' person likely doesn't have the knowledge to separate the wheat from the chaff (did I spell that correctly?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evandbob Posted July 3, 2019 #140 Share Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, clo said: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK518995/ Scroll down to "treatment/management. I have a ton of medical background and thank the she-gods every day for Google. It can be your friend also. webMD is not what I would depend on. I did - here's what it said (I added emphasis) : Debate exists over antidiarrheal medication usage. Medications such as diphenoxylate/atropine or loperamide are not recommended in patients who are 65 or older. Younger patients may benefit from antimotility medications [4]. However, some feel that if a patient can maintain a well-hydrated status, antidiarrheal treatment should not be initiated. For oral rehydration, some studies have shown that commercially available oral rehydration solutions containing electrolytes are superior to sports drinks and other forms of oral rehydration [2]. However, a recent study using children with mild dehydration demonstrated no differences between children receiving oral rehydration solutions versus ad lib oral intake [17]. No specific nutritional recommendations are universal for patients with viral gastroenteritis. A diet of banana, rice, apples, tea, and toast is often advised, but several studies have failed to show any significant outcome difference when compared to regular diets [18]. Your citation supports what I stated, thanks! Edited July 3, 2019 by evandbob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evandbob Posted July 3, 2019 #141 Share Posted July 3, 2019 More support: https://www.cdc.gov/norovirus/about/treatment.html https://www.pharmacytimes.com/publications/issue/2017/february2017/viral-gastroenteritis-managing-symptoms-and-finding-relief https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/norovirus/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20355302 https://www.emedicinehealth.com/norovirus/article_em.htm#what_are_home_remedies_for_norovirus_infections Most physicians do not recommend taking over-the-counter antidiarrheal medications such as diphenoxylate atropine (Lomotil) or loperamidehydrochloride (Imodium) because they may prolong the infection or cause complications. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mom says Posted July 3, 2019 #142 Share Posted July 3, 2019 5 hours ago, evandbob said: Most physicians do not recommend taking over-the-counter antidiarrheal medications such as diphenoxylate atropine (Lomotil) or loperamidehydrochloride (Imodium) because they may prolong the infection or cause complications. Or, for the laymen, in the immortal words of Shrek, "Better out than in". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRF Posted July 7, 2019 #143 Share Posted July 7, 2019 On 7/2/2019 at 10:34 AM, iancal said: A tiny roll of Tums, a few band-aids, a strip of 6 claratin tabs and five or six ibprobhen capsules. On 7/2/2019 at 11:31 AM, clo said: When I was having my awful back pain I was taking four six hours! We carry a zipping bag of them on any trip. My doc says if you don't take at least 3 or 4 for muscle/joint pain, don't bother taking them. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted July 7, 2019 #144 Share Posted July 7, 2019 2 hours ago, SRF said: My doc says if you don't take at least 3 or 4 for muscle/joint pain, don't bother taking them. 😄 And you need to get the level up and keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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