Adawn47 Posted January 4, 2021 #12626 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 hours ago, batholiver said: Please.......there haven't been any right choices. It's been muddle and delay from the outset - what we're looking for is decisive leadership. Would you like a list of all the failures? Not particularly, but I'm sure you would supply them if required. One point I would like to make though. Do you think that the main requirement for any governmental post is a certificate of perfection,?because at the end of the day we're all human, and as such are not infallible. Avril 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Hill Posted January 4, 2021 #12627 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Eglesbrech said: Yes Parliament went into session at 2pm so that all parties could debate the new restrictions. There seems to be general consensus that it is necessary. The restrictions are even tougher than they were back in March to the end of January at present with a review mid month onward. Where Nicola leads Johnson will follow 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshirephil Posted January 4, 2021 #12628 Share Posted January 4, 2021 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted January 4, 2021 #12629 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Snow Hill said: Where Nicola leads Johnson will follow When she gives her update at 2pm she already knows what England will do. The 4 national chief medical officers have a conference call each morning. Edited January 4, 2021 by zap99 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eglesbrech Posted January 4, 2021 #12630 Share Posted January 4, 2021 48 minutes ago, yorkshirephil said: Nicola Sturgeon has has done her usual trick. I take it of course by that you mean showing some leadership and foresight. She recalled her cabinet and the Scottish Parliament at the weekend so that our MSPs could debate this important national issue today. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted January 4, 2021 #12631 Share Posted January 4, 2021 41 minutes ago, Eglesbrech said: I take it of course by that you mean showing some leadership and foresight. She recalled her cabinet and the Scottish Parliament at the weekend so that our MSPs could debate this important national issue today. She was the only leader who came on GMB for several months so well done Nicola. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eglesbrech Posted January 4, 2021 #12632 Share Posted January 4, 2021 41 minutes ago, zap99 said: When she gives her update at 2pm she already knows what England will do. The 4 national chief medical officers have a conference call each morning. So she had her crystal ball out at the weekend, when she recalled Holyrood then to debate the changes? A real shame the PM did not use his before his interview on Andrew Marr. And by the way Scotland, Wales and NI do don’t need to know what England will do. The four nationals have followed different paths. I just hope whatever each nation decides to do it is effective and gets the virus under control for us all. Stay safe and well. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted January 4, 2021 #12633 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Eglesbrech said: So she had her crystal ball out at the weekend, when she recalled Holyrood then to debate the changes? A real shame the PM did not use his before his interview on Andrew Marr. And by the way Scotland, Wales and NI do don’t need to know what England will do. The four nationals have followed different paths. I just hope whatever each nation decides to do it is effective and gets the virus under control for us all. Stay safe and well. +1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyMichelle Posted January 4, 2021 #12634 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I'm missing all the fun on here during the day trying to keep the economy afloat single handedly...😊 I wonder if I will have more time tomorrow? Andy 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josy1953 Posted January 4, 2021 #12635 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, yorkshirephil said: We all need one of these 😇 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eglesbrech Posted January 4, 2021 #12636 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, AndyMichelle said: I'm missing all the fun on here during the day trying to keep the economy afloat single handedly...😊 I wonder if I will have more time tomorrow? Andy Well done Andy, someone has to. 😀 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted January 4, 2021 #12637 Share Posted January 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, Eglesbrech said: So she had her crystal ball out at the weekend, when she recalled Holyrood then to debate the changes? A real shame the PM did not use his before his interview on Andrew Marr. And by the way Scotland, Wales and NI do don’t need to know what England will do. The four nationals have followed different paths. I just hope whatever each nation decides to do it is effective and gets the virus under control for us all. Stay safe and well. The inference was that the UK prime minister looks over the Scottish first ministers shoulder copying what she does. I doubt that is the case. The FM is doing well, no doubt, but as long a folk on here criticise everything that the UK government does on every occasion , despite leaving Europe standing in terms of vaccine rollout, I may have a contrary opinion. Can you imagine the outcry by some on this cruising site if 2500 people had celebrated NYE here like they did in Brittany.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eglesbrech Posted January 4, 2021 #12638 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, zap99 said: The inference was that the UK prime minister looks over the Scottish first ministers shoulder copying what she does. I doubt that is the case. The FM is doing well, no doubt, but as long a folk on here criticise everything that the UK government does on every occasion , despite leaving Europe standing in terms of vaccine rollout, I may have a contrary opinion. Can you imagine the outcry by some on this cruising site if 2500 people had celebrated NYE here like they did in Brittany.? But that’s not what you said, is it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eddie99 Posted January 4, 2021 #12639 Share Posted January 4, 2021 You won’t like this then Zapp 🙄 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted January 4, 2021 #12640 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Eglesbrech said: But that’s not what you said, is it. What I said was that the 4 Chief Medical Officers all confer and advise their political masters. The prime/ first ministers make their decisions. They all differ a bit and the timing is different, that is what devolution is all about. If they come up with similar plans, but at different times, no mystery as we are all a bit further up, or down the curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josy1953 Posted January 4, 2021 #12641 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) I have been to Sainsbury's today so I am ready for the lockdown that Boris is announcing this evening. I thought that going today would mean there would be fewer people and it was very quiet. I will not need to go out again for 10 to 14 days apart from getting fresh fruit and vegetables which I can get from the farm shop. I hope that I am wrong but to me it looks like it is going to get worse before it gets better. Stay safe everyone Edited January 4, 2021 by Josy1953 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eglesbrech Posted January 4, 2021 #12642 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, zap99 said: What I said was that the 4 Chief Medical Officers all confer and advise their political masters. The prime/ first ministers make their decisions. They all differ a bit and the timing is different, that is what devolution is all about. If they come up with similar plans, but at different times, no mystery as we are all a bit further up, or down the curve. “When she gives her update at 2pm she already knows what England will do” She planned well ahead (and by the way I don’t vote SNP). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete14 Posted January 4, 2021 #12643 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Josy1953 said: I have been to Sainsbury's today so I am ready for the lockdown that Boris is announcing this evening. I thought that going today would mean there would be fewer people and it was very quiet. I will not need to go out again for 10 to 14 days apart from getting fresh fruit and vegetables which I can get from the farm shop. I hope that I am wrong but to me it looks like it is going to get worse before it gets better. Stay safe everyone If the getting worse is the way to achieve a lasting getting better, I am all for it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted January 4, 2021 #12644 Share Posted January 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Eddie99 said: You won’t like this then Zapp 🙄 Please don't get me wrong, I am no fan of Boris or his Government and the advisors and scientists seem to have wildly differing opinions. We pay these people to run things. There is an election in 4 years and I am bored already. Can you imagine all the negatives on here for the next few years. Exiting prospect. All this will change.......Nothing. let people charged with sorting it out for on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshirephil Posted January 4, 2021 #12645 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Josy1953 said: I have been to Sainsbury's today so I am ready for the lockdown that Boris is announcing this evening. I thought that going today would mean there would be fewer people and it was very quiet. I will not need to go out again for 10 to 14 days apart from getting fresh fruit and vegetables which I can get from the farm shop. I hope that I am wrong but to me it looks like it is going to get worse before it gets better. Stay safe everyone I think you are right, full lockdown till ??? IMHO I think it should be for a minimum of a month and that may be optimistic. Get the hospitalisations and death rates down and chance to get people vaccinated. Short lockdowns just seem to create waves followed by more lockdowns which cause more confusion. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Presto2 Posted January 4, 2021 #12646 Share Posted January 4, 2021 20 hours ago, terrierjohn said: No one thinks the teachers are the bad guys, but your Union officials do seem to be a law unto themselves. Not my Union 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted January 4, 2021 #12647 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, yorkshirephil said: I think you are right, full lockdown till ??? IMHO I think it should be for a minimum of a month and that may be optimistic. Get the hospitalisations and death rates down and chance to get people vaccinated. Short lockdowns just seem to create waves followed by more lockdowns which cause more confusion. Absolutely, but I would like to take DW to some nice hotel for her birthday/valentine's. Mid February .Devon looks nice and a warm welcome to the county will be assured. Won't it Jean? Or St Ives. Ok purplesea? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Presto2 Posted January 4, 2021 #12648 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Hi folks, thanks for all the messages of support last night - it meant a lot. Was feeling down last night having read the comments on one on line newspaper and though I try not to let it get to me it does. Have just checked your messages out. 🙂 Today has been crazy to say the least, but we await the announcement at 8pm. Dread to think what it will say as we always find out what is happening with everyone else. For all we know, we could all be closed tomorrow !!!!! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Presto2 Posted January 4, 2021 #12649 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Presto2 said: Not my Union 😉 PS All of them seem to be saying different things at the moment as usual. One day they will all work together ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted January 4, 2021 #12650 Share Posted January 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, Eglesbrech said: She is going to be all shiny and new for me by the time I get on her, I’m happy. End if August for us. I hope she will be nicely run in.🚣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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