grapau27 Posted March 28, 2021 #301 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, jeanlyon said: I am not concerned about catching the virus after I have had 2 vaccinations. Sorry if that is what I implied. Wasn't meant that way. I was merely thinking about half the crew going down with it and that would ruin the cruise. Families with children won't be able to cruise on anything this year if children can't be vaccinated either. Even with the vaccines P&O are saying that you must not have been told to isolate before the staycation cruise by being in close contact with anyone who is covid19 positive. Graham. Edited March 28, 2021 by grapau27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisenewbie1976 Posted March 28, 2021 #302 Share Posted March 28, 2021 4 hours ago, grapau27 said: Even with the vaccines P&O are saying that you must not have been told to isolate before the staycation cruise by being in close contact with anyone who is covid19 positive. Graham. I suspect that will evolve over the next few months as the vaccine continues to be rolled out. The government won't want large numbers of vaccinated people isolating and not going to work etc, if there's little chance of them having caught it. Hopefully life will be a lot less restrictive by the time these cruises start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyCruiserUK Posted March 28, 2021 #303 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I think the rules will change as more people get a vaccine. Currently the most vulnerable have had the vaccine and the vast majority of them dare i say could be retired. The vast majority of the working population still need to have the vaccine and as such rules will be heavy at the mo. These are my thoughts and i apologize to any over 50 who may feel that i have classed them as retired or a non-worker, as i know plenty are working just as hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted March 28, 2021 #304 Share Posted March 28, 2021 47 minutes ago, cruisenewbie1976 said: I suspect that will evolve over the next few months as the vaccine continues to be rolled out. The government won't want large numbers of vaccinated people isolating and not going to work etc, if there's little chance of them having caught it. Hopefully life will be a lot less restrictive by the time these cruises start. Let's hope so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshirephil Posted March 28, 2021 #305 Share Posted March 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, FamilyCruiserUK said: I think the rules will change as more people get a vaccine. Currently the most vulnerable have had the vaccine and the vast majority of them dare i say could be retired. The vast majority of the working population still need to have the vaccine and as such rules will be heavy at the mo. These are my thoughts and i apologize to any over 50 who may feel that i have classed them as retired or a non-worker, as i know plenty are working just as hard. Things will change for sure as we understand how the vaccine is working and/or we reach herd immunity. It will be restrictive for those not vaccinated for a few months. Cruise companies will be finding their feet and like the rest of us keeping fingers crossed that it goes well. There is still a long way to go in the covid saga, but there is light at the end of the tunnel. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragilek Posted March 29, 2021 #306 Share Posted March 29, 2021 17 hours ago, grapau27 said: Even with the vaccines P&O are saying that you must not have been told to isolate before the staycation cruise by being in close contact with anyone who is covid19 positive. Graham. I don't think this requirement will chance until after Septembers boosters have been given out. Then I expect things to relax a bit for 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazrat Posted March 29, 2021 #307 Share Posted March 29, 2021 People seam to forget the Italian and German companies are already running cruises successfully, and there vaccinations are way behind ours so I would think P&O would pick up some useful tips from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave2 Posted March 29, 2021 #308 Share Posted March 29, 2021 On 3/17/2021 at 11:23 AM, zap99 said: When I look out of my cabin window in the English channel I expect to see herds of wilderbeest sweeping across the plain, or the Sydney opera house.🤣 or Mount Krakatoa erupting in the background. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted March 29, 2021 #309 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 hours ago, fragilek said: I don't think this requirement will chance until after Septembers boosters have been given out. Then I expect things to relax a bit for 2022 This email is being sent out to people who have staycation bookings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyh25 Posted March 31, 2021 #310 Share Posted March 31, 2021 We're both off to get our first injections tomorrow. May get our photographs taken with a copy of a newspaper in shot so we can prove where and when it was done. 😄 Someone has already mentioned that in Scotland the only record that you have actually had the covid vaccination is on your medical records. Most people will also have been invited by letter, and that contains your name, NHS appointment number, date, time and location of your vaccine. It of course doesn't prove you actually turned up for the injections and I am sure could be easily copied and amended, but may be better than nothing! Who knows what proof P&O will actually require but I would imagine/hope they have a realistic idea of what most people can reasonably produce in the UK. He says with his fingers crossed. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted March 31, 2021 #311 Share Posted March 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, sammyh25 said: We're both off to get our first injections tomorrow. May get our photographs taken with a copy of a newspaper in shot so we can prove where and when it was done. 😄 Someone has already mentioned that in Scotland the only record that you have actually had the covid vaccination is on your medical records. Most people will also have been invited by letter, and that contains your name, NHS appointment number, date, time and location of your vaccine. It of course doesn't prove you actually turned up for the injections and I am sure could be easily copied and amended, but may be better than nothing! Who knows what proof P&O will actually require but I would imagine/hope they have a realistic idea of what most people can reasonably produce in the UK. He says with his fingers crossed. 😉 And give people sufficient time to actually get that proof given that the first cruises are due to start in July. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragilek Posted April 1, 2021 #312 Share Posted April 1, 2021 18 hours ago, sammyh25 said: We're both off to get our first injections tomorrow. May get our photographs taken with a copy of a newspaper in shot so we can prove where and when it was done. 😄 Someone has already mentioned that in Scotland the only record that you have actually had the covid vaccination is on your medical records. Most people will also have been invited by letter, and that contains your name, NHS appointment number, date, time and location of your vaccine. It of course doesn't prove you actually turned up for the injections and I am sure could be easily copied and amended, but may be better than nothing! Who knows what proof P&O will actually require but I would imagine/hope they have a realistic idea of what most people can reasonably produce in the UK. He says with his fingers crossed. 😉 over on the other side of Scotland we all got our dates by text or were phoned to come to the surgery. We don't have big vax centers near us we live in very small towns/ villages. So was a call for me & my husband and a text for my mum and daughter. MIL was a call from health board. all of us got called to get vax'd next working day. No paper work at all. In fact my MIL wasn't even sure which vax she had been given no-one said. My other daughter and future SIL got the letters but they live in Glasgow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshirephil Posted April 1, 2021 #313 Share Posted April 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, fragilek said: In fact my MIL wasn't even sure which vax she had been given no-one said. My other daughter and future SIL got the letters but they live in Glasgow. That is not good, at least if you know which vaccine you got first time you know which to expect the second time, as currently it is important that you have both the same, albeit this may change in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake 26 Posted April 3, 2021 #314 Share Posted April 3, 2021 On 3/31/2021 at 5:29 PM, sammyh25 said: We're both off to get our first injections tomorrow. May get our photographs taken with a copy of a newspaper in shot so we can prove where and when it was done. 😄 Someone has already mentioned that in Scotland the only record that you have actually had the covid vaccination is on your medical records. Most people will also have been invited by letter, and that contains your name, NHS appointment number, date, time and location of your vaccine. It of course doesn't prove you actually turned up for the injections and I am sure could be easily copied and amended, but may be better than nothing! Who knows what proof P&O will actually require but I would imagine/hope they have a realistic idea of what most people can reasonably produce in the UK. He says with his fingers crossed. 😉 I read today that Royal Caribbean will require a GP letter or a letter of vaccine appointments as you mention. I suppose if you also have the blue cards giving the vaccine batch that would help. Although not everyone got those I understand. I should imagine P&O will require the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted April 3, 2021 #315 Share Posted April 3, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 12:44 PM, yorkshirephil said: That is not good, at least if you know which vaccine you got first time you know which to expect the second time, as currently it is important that you have both the same, albeit this may change in the future. When I arrived nursery said you will be getting the AZ vaccine. Although I was not that bothered which one, I would have asked the question if she hadn't told me.🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted April 3, 2021 #316 Share Posted April 3, 2021 25 minutes ago, jake 26 said: I read today that Royal Caribbean will require a GP letter or a letter of vaccine appointments as you mention. I suppose if you also have the blue cards giving the vaccine batch that would help. Although not everyone got those I understand. I should imagine P&O will require the same. In the absence of any further information I will provide my card ( with the secret dye ) and print out the emails and take copies of the letters. I would think that some digital proof will be available soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted April 3, 2021 #317 Share Posted April 3, 2021 I suppose the problem with digital proof is for those who are not on the internet and do not have a Smartphone. We do, but our friend is 85, has never touched a computer and doesn't have a mobile, so hers will have to be paper proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted April 4, 2021 #318 Share Posted April 4, 2021 It is reported today that the government expect a digital vaccine passport for international travel will not be available before autumn. So will we see pressure from certain areas to allow non vaccinated passengers on the summer staycation cruises. Can the cruise lines legally resist this and if not I expect a rash of cancellations and the cruises becoming booze cruises for those who can't go abroad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann141 Posted April 4, 2021 #319 Share Posted April 4, 2021 8 hours ago, davecttr said: It is reported today that the government expect a digital vaccine passport for international travel will not be available before autumn. So will we see pressure from certain areas to allow non vaccinated passengers on the summer staycation cruises. Can the cruise lines legally resist this and if not I expect a rash of cancellations and the cruises becoming booze cruises for those who can't go abroad. I think the companies selling the seacation cruises e g P and O Princess and Cunard have specified that a vaccine is mandatory to book one of their cruises..There are other cruise lines e.g Fred Olsen and MSC (and I think Disney) that will probably accept a negative test instead of a vaccine so people will have a choice.Marketing surveys from Saga, P and O and Cunard showed the majority of people surveyed wanted to cruise with others who had been vaccinated so I would be surprised if these cruise lines changed their policies and I think most people who have booked have realised that a vaccine was a condition of booking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted April 4, 2021 #320 Share Posted April 4, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, davecttr said: It is reported today that the government expect a digital vaccine passport for international travel will not be available before autumn. So will we see pressure from certain areas to allow non vaccinated passengers on the summer staycation cruises. Can the cruise lines legally resist this and if not I expect a rash of cancellations and the cruises becoming booze cruises for those who can't go abroad. If a cruise company decide only vaccinated passengers are allowed on board, that is entirely their decision. And the majority of cruise lines have made just that decision. Whilst many will be upset, the new rules only apply to the new Seacation cruises, so it is not as if the ruies are being applied retrospectively, so I can't see any issue. And the new cruises are not exactly cheap, so I can't see them becoming booze cruises. Edited April 4, 2021 by wowzz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshirephil Posted April 5, 2021 #321 Share Posted April 5, 2021 23 hours ago, davecttr said: It is reported today that the government expect a digital vaccine passport for international travel will not be available before autumn. So will we see pressure from certain areas to allow non vaccinated passengers on the summer staycation cruises. Can the cruise lines legally resist this and if not I expect a rash of cancellations and the cruises becoming booze cruises for those who can't go abroad. I think the staycation cruises will be booked to capacity so there is no logic in P&O allowing non vaccinated passengers as that would cause a lot of bad feeling and people who had booked would cancel/change as a lot have only booked because they felt safe with the vaccination policy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted April 5, 2021 #322 Share Posted April 5, 2021 On 4/4/2021 at 11:01 AM, davecttr said: It is reported today that the government expect a digital vaccine passport for international travel will not be available before autumn. So will we see pressure from certain areas to allow non vaccinated passengers on the summer staycation cruises. Can the cruise lines legally resist this and if not I expect a rash of cancellations and the cruises becoming booze cruises for those who can't go abroad. Or a non digital proof of vaccination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazrat Posted April 5, 2021 #323 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I really cannot see the argument for not having a vaccination passport makes life a lot easier all around. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted April 5, 2021 #324 Share Posted April 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bazrat said: I really cannot see the argument for not having a vaccination passport makes life a lot easier all around. If we wish to go abroad on holiday, the choice may not be ours to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batholiver Posted April 5, 2021 #325 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Can't see a problem here. If all those microchip stories are true, we've already got our digital passports. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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