NightOne Posted April 13, 2021 #1 Share Posted April 13, 2021 https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24765-senators-introduce-bill-allowing-to-restart-cruising-by-july-4.html Fingers and toes crossed Call your Senators 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted April 13, 2021 #2 Share Posted April 13, 2021 May the force be with you... but without democrats, zero chance. I saw zero democrats listed in the article. Tilting at windmills comes to mind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted April 13, 2021 #3 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Grandstanding and showboating at best 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tapi Posted April 13, 2021 #4 Share Posted April 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, xpcdoojk said: May the force be with you... but without democrats, zero chance. I saw zero democrats listed in the article. To be objective, Florida and Alaska, are the two most affected states by the CSO so of course it makes sense that the 3 senators introducing this bill are from those states, regardless of their political affiliation. Let’s see now how much support the bill gets from the other 97 senators. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace2542 Posted April 13, 2021 #5 Share Posted April 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Tapi said: To be objective, Florida and Alaska, are the two most affected states by the CSO so of course it makes sense that the 3 senators introducing this bill are from those states, regardless of their political affiliation. Let’s see now how much support the bill gets from the other 97 senators. It will get no support because cruise ship are polluting floating covid hubs who employ about what 10-15 americans each NCL pride being the exception. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted April 13, 2021 #6 Share Posted April 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, ace2542 said: It will get no support because cruise ship are polluting floating covid hubs who employ about what 10-15 americans each NCL pride being the exception. The senators in question do not care about pollution , they just care about all the revenue created by passengers visiting and spending money before and after cruises in hotels and restaurants. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cured Posted April 13, 2021 #7 Share Posted April 13, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, NightOne said: https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24765-senators-introduce-bill-allowing-to-restart-cruising-by-july-4.html Fingers and toes crossed Call your Senators Won't go anywhere. This is the third bill introduced by senators since Covid started. The first one was introduced last Setember by Rubio and Scott when the Republicans had the senate and it didn't go anywhere. It ended up in McConnell's graveyard where apparently even Republican sponsored bills could go. The second one was introduced in March by Murkowski to allow ships to sail to Alaska without having to stop in Canada. That bill is still waiting. If recent history continues, this bill won't even have Republican (McConnell) support, let alone bipartisan support. Edited April 13, 2021 by cured 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogimax Posted April 13, 2021 #8 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Hey Rubio has been pushing for an end to Daylight Savings Time for years. How successful has he been? And that's pretty non controversial. This is simply a grandstand play from presidential wannabes. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick93 Posted April 13, 2021 #9 Share Posted April 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, yogimax said: Hey Rubio has been pushing for an end to Daylight Savings Time for years. How successful has he been? And that's pretty non controversial. This is simply a grandstand play from presidential wannabes. Actually daylight savings time is controversial when your 5 year old is at the bus stop at 7:45am and its dark as it would be in may northern major cities in December and January. The cruise ships aren't going anywhere because the majority of politicians, both red guys and blue guys don't care. They got no stimulus money and they get no love as they don't flag their ships here and act autonomously in international waters. The people who work on the docks and suppliers are the pons in the game that are getting hurt - The little people or better known as the middle class that is always screwed! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogbay Posted April 13, 2021 #10 Share Posted April 13, 2021 58 minutes ago, yogimax said: Hey Rubio has been pushing for an end to Daylight Savings Time for years. And that's pretty non controversial. My mum is in her 90's and hates the extra hour of daylight cause it fades here curtains and the cow's don't know when to come home.😇 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Barracuda Posted April 13, 2021 #11 Share Posted April 13, 2021 From the article: The Act also requires the CDC to revoke the order entitled “Framework for Conditional Sailing and Initial Phase COVID-19 Testing Requirements for Protection of Crew” no later than July 4. It also ensures that HHS and CDC retain all appropriate authorities to make and enforce regulations necessary to prevent the introduction, transmission, or spread of communicable diseases on any individual cruise ship. So they demand that the CSO be cancelled, but then instruct CDC to tell cruise lines how to keep ships safe. Isn't that what the CSO did? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroltovt Posted April 13, 2021 #12 Share Posted April 13, 2021 47 minutes ago, Hogbay said: My mum is in her 90's and hates the extra hour of daylight cause it fades here curtains and the cow's don't know when to come home.😇 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroltovt Posted April 13, 2021 #13 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Some farmers never change clocks. Easier for the cows. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etta1213 Posted April 14, 2021 #14 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, yogimax said: Hey Rubio has been pushing for an end to Daylight Savings Time for years. How successful has he been? And that's pretty non controversial. This is simply a grandstand play from presidential wannabes. I think it's fair to have an opinion regarding the bill's chances. I would suggest that attributing motives to another is perhaps unfair. Edited April 14, 2021 by Etta1213 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenquixote66 Posted April 14, 2021 #15 Share Posted April 14, 2021 I want 24 hours of daylight.Any chance for that ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted April 14, 2021 #16 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Baron Barracuda said: From the article: The Act also requires the CDC to revoke the order entitled “Framework for Conditional Sailing and Initial Phase COVID-19 Testing Requirements for Protection of Crew” no later than July 4. It also ensures that HHS and CDC retain all appropriate authorities to make and enforce regulations necessary to prevent the introduction, transmission, or spread of communicable diseases on any individual cruise ship. So they demand that the CSO be cancelled, but then instruct CDC to tell cruise lines how to keep ships safe. Isn't that what the CSO did? It's poorly written but I think it means they can still dictate rules for protocols for pre-, during and post-cruise. Just can't outright ban cruising like they are now. Edited April 14, 2021 by smokeybandit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mek Posted April 14, 2021 #17 Share Posted April 14, 2021 24 minutes ago, lenquixote66 said: I want 24 hours of daylight.Any chance for that ? Move to Alaska. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenquixote66 Posted April 14, 2021 #18 Share Posted April 14, 2021 31 minutes ago, mek said: Move to Alaska. LOL Alaska is not 24 hours of daylight.It is 6 months of 21 hours and 6 months of 21 hours of darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 14, 2021 #19 Share Posted April 14, 2021 5 hours ago, xpcdoojk said: May the force be with you... but without democrats, zero chance. I saw zero democrats listed in the article. Tilting at windmills comes to mind. Where is Lenny Quixote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 14, 2021 #20 Share Posted April 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, lenquixote66 said: Alaska is not 24 hours of daylight.It is 6 months of 21 hours and 6 months of 21 hours of darkness. A little over simplified, wouldn't you agree 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenquixote66 Posted April 14, 2021 #21 Share Posted April 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: A little over simplified, wouldn't you agree In what sense ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted April 14, 2021 #22 Share Posted April 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Tapi said: To be objective, Florida and Alaska, are the two most affected states by the CSO so of course it makes sense that the 3 senators introducing this bill are from those states, regardless of their political affiliation. Let’s see now how much support the bill gets from the other 97 senators. Really only needs one senator and about a dozen congress people.... of course we will eventually see it one party against the other, and one party is total in their convictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted April 14, 2021 #23 Share Posted April 14, 2021 4 hours ago, yogimax said: Hey Rubio has been pushing for an end to Daylight Savings Time for years. How successful has he been? And that's pretty non controversial. This is simply a grandstand play from presidential wannabes. Rubio, has exactly the same chance I have of being president. IE zero. Republicans don’t trust him, therefore, he is toast. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted April 14, 2021 #24 Share Posted April 14, 2021 5 hours ago, ace2542 said: It will get no support because cruise ship are polluting floating covid hubs who employ about what 10-15 americans each NCL pride being the exception. Why are you here? If you hate cruising, please go to the Greenpeace web page and leave us in our misery alone. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 14, 2021 #25 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, lenquixote66 said: In what sense ? At 6 months it magically swaps from 21 hours of light to 21 hours of dark. 🤔🤣🤣 Plus Alaska is huge, northern parts get more summer daylight than northern parts. Any part of Alaska within the Arctic Circle gets 24 hours of sunlight on at least the June Solstice Edited April 14, 2021 by John&LaLa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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