lisiamc Posted October 22, 2014 #1 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Now that Michael's Club has been designated as a lounge for suite passengers and Zenith-level Captain's Club members, I've also read that there will be a separate dining room for suite passengers as well. So a suite passenger can drink, relax, and attend special events in Michael's, eat in the special suite dining room, get priority tendering and disembarkation at ports, have reserved seating at shows (so far only for formal nights, I think) and generally manage not to come into contact with "regular" passengers. We will probably never be a suite passengers. If we want that level of perks, we can sail with a more luxurious line like Seabourn or Azamara, where we are pampered but basically equal with all the other passengers. And we'd pay about the same money as the suite passengers on Celebrity. What do others think? Will you be happy to be on a two-class ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orator Posted October 22, 2014 #2 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Perhaps you can offer some examples of cruise lines that don't give more perks to those who pay more. What lines don't have a least a two class system? I really don't care what others get. I can get it as well if I pay and that's fair. Hate to be the one that breaks the news, but there's been a multi class system for years. Edited October 22, 2014 by Orator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miched Posted October 22, 2014 #3 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) There are more than two classes and have been that way for a long time. It doesn't bother me as I can choose what I want to pay for and value. If people have the means or desire to pay more for what they want, can afford or feel they need that is their privilege. It is nothing unique to the cruise lines as many other destinations do the same, Disney, hotels, casinos, AI's, air travel, and etc. In fact it even applies to buying a house, automobile, boat, where you live, and .... It doesn't slight me at all. Happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅 Edited October 22, 2014 by miched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Raider Posted October 22, 2014 #4 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It doesn't bother me one little bit if someone pays for an experience they feel is superior to mine. Half of my enjoyment is getting the bargain....so they will never get the chance to feel what makes my cruise vacation special. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisiamc Posted October 22, 2014 Author #5 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) I don't begrudge others the benefits. If they want to pay, that's fine with me. It is sort of the real estate thing, though. I'd rather live in the worst house in a good neighbourhood than the best house in a bad neighbourhood. So for cruising, I'd rather have a regular cabin on a luxury line if I want luxury, or a regular cabin on a mass-market line if I want that experience. Edited October 22, 2014 by lisiamc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonintassie Posted October 22, 2014 #6 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Its user pays just like most things I work in the dirt and sand all year and yes I book suites and fly business class and it has nothing to do with being seperated from others.It is my little treat for the rough nights and hard days in conditions which are far removed from the little bit of pampering I pay for when we take a break. I just really like the space a suite offers and certainly dont make a big deal about it to others.:) Now that Michael's Club has been designated as a lounge for suite passengers and Zenith-level Captain's Club members, I've also read that there will be a separate dining room for suite passengers as well. So a suite passenger can drink, relax, and attend special events in Michael's, eat in the special suite dining room, get priority tendering and disembarkation at ports, have reserved seating at shows (so far only for formal nights, I think) and generally manage not to come into contact with "regular" passengers. We will probably never be a suite passengers. If we want that level of perks, we can sail with a more luxurious line like Seabourn or Azamara, where we are pampered but basically equal with all the other passengers. And we'd pay about the same money as the suite passengers on Celebrity. What do others think? Will you be happy to be on a two-class ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted October 22, 2014 #7 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Agree with the other posts in some regards. Paying more may segregate people into a perceived class system (us and them), but money has always brought benefits like this, you only have to look at all the differing classes for cabins. By joining one of these clubs or having priority status for certain areas of the ship does not automatically mean the person has class just money. Having Money doesn't always equal Class and the same applies the other way.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted October 22, 2014 #8 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Perhaps you can offer some examples of cruise lines that don't give more perks to those who pay more. What lines don't have a least a two class system? I really don't care what others get. I can get it as well if I pay and that's fair. Hate to be the one that breaks the news, but there's been a multi class system for years. Yes, it has always been and will probably always be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooncat Posted October 22, 2014 #9 Share Posted October 22, 2014 My last cruise was in 2010 only because I haven't had the funds to go on another since. Anyway, it was on the Oasis of the Seas and that was before the people in suites had a separate dining room. We were all together. Yes, perhaps, the higher more frequent cruisers and suite people had their own lounge, but we all ate together and it was fun. Yes, it seems RCI corporation is going towards a more multi-class system like on Cunard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swigso Posted October 22, 2014 #10 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Well for me it's a so what, all those bemoaning Michaels Club being used For Zenith and Suite guests, I ask why didn't you use the place in the past? As for an exclusive dining room, Aqua class has had that since the inception of the S class Ships. All the other passengers have their own exclusive dining room, I enjoy what celebrity has to offer and they also IMHO look after their past guests very well. This seems as a way of rewarding those who choose to cruise in suites and that makes good business sense, if it pushes up the price of suites maybe it will help to keep those balcony prices lower:D Edited October 22, 2014 by swigso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise kitty Posted October 22, 2014 #11 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It doesn't bother me at all, & I don't travel in a suite :) I could, but the ones I'd be willing to pay for don't really appeal to me, I'd hate for my bed to be that far away from the balcony, the high end suites are way out of my budget! On the other hand, I don't fly coach, & yes, I enjoy the class system, on a 15 plus hour flight, I don't want to share the restroom with everyone else on the plane or be packed like a sardine. So, I have no problem with someone who pays more getting more perks, & more private space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryZ Posted October 22, 2014 #12 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It doesn't bother me one little bit if someone pays for an experience they feel is superior to mine. Half of my enjoyment is getting the bargain....so they will never get the chance to feel what makes my cruise vacation special. :D Wow, me too! I love to play the game of how low can we go :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted October 22, 2014 #13 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Wow, me too! I love to play the game of how low can we go :) Yes, bargain hunting for cruises is a favourite pastime of ours as well.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.T.B. Posted October 22, 2014 #14 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'd rather not spend the money on the suite and spend it elsewhere while on vacation.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis Posted October 22, 2014 #15 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I think it's important for X to try harder when it comes to suites. For a while, now, NCL has held the market on the suite experience. We strayed (from favs X and RCI) and tried it. Yes, the NCL suite experience was fabulous, but we really didn't care for the life onboard outside of the suite enclave ("The Haven"). By contrast, I think there are many who love the overall X experience and will take the suite plunge if they know they are getting more value from it than just a nicer cabin and butler. That is really good for everyone, as it keeps X competitive and financially healthy. Sent from my iPad using Cruise Critic Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted October 22, 2014 #16 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I have no problem with a multi-class system, as long as they don't reduce what the base class gets to try and push you into a higher class. For example I have no problems with them giving some class a wider range on the room service menu than I get in my humble balcony, but if they took away free room service in a balcony I wouldn't be happy. Or if they give certain categories separate restaurants, like they already do with blu, no worries, but if they said only buffet for OV's and below I'd arc up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckle Posted October 22, 2014 #17 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) I have no problem with a multi-class system, as long as they don't reduce what the base class gets to try and push you into a higher class. That thought has probably occurred to many of us.I would have no problem at all if the extra cost food items are included on the suite dining menu at no additional charge. But I think a primary concern now about the new suite dining room is whether it will result in diminishing the quality of the food and service in the regular dining room, or in Blu. Let's hope it doesn't. As for the OP's initial question about whether Celebrity is going to a two-class system, that is unlikely to happen. It will continue to offer multiple classes, as it always has. Edited October 22, 2014 by fleckle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalcruz Posted October 22, 2014 #18 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It doesn't bother me that people can pay more and get exclusive benefits. No one is being separated by social class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project_gal Posted October 22, 2014 #19 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Now that Michael's Club has been designated as a lounge for suite passengers and Zenith-level Captain's Club members, I've also read that there will be a separate dining room for suite passengers as well. So a suite passenger can drink, relax, and attend special events in Michael's, eat in the special suite dining room, get priority tendering and disembarkation at ports, have reserved seating at shows (so far only for formal nights, I think) and generally manage not to come into contact with "regular" passengers. We will probably never be a suite passengers. If we want that level of perks, we can sail with a more luxurious line like Seabourn or Azamara, where we are pampered but basically equal with all the other passengers. And we'd pay about the same money as the suite passengers on Celebrity. What do others think? Will you be happy to be on a two-class ship? I cannot comment on Seabourn but you are mistaken if you think that those in the top suites on Azamara do not have different perks to other guests. Personally, I always found it uncomfortable saying that I was attending the "Best of the Best" dinner on Azamara. Celebrity do not use that type of elitist language when describing their suite amenities. If you did not know about this, clearly a "two-class ship" did not affect you on Azamara and neither should it on Celebrity. Edited October 22, 2014 by Project_gal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project_gal Posted October 22, 2014 #20 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It doesn't bother me at all, & I don't travel in a suite :) I could, but the ones I'd be willing to pay for don't really appeal to me, I'd hate for my bed to be that far away from the balcony, the high end suites are way out of my budget! On the other hand, I don't fly coach, & yes, I enjoy the class system, on a 15 plus hour flight, I don't want to share the restroom with everyone else on the plane or be packed like a sardine. So, I have no problem with someone who pays more getting more perks, & more private space. We each have our different priorities but I can accept spending a few hours in intolerable conditions on a 'plane and would rather spend the money on better cruise accommodation for 14 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted October 22, 2014 #21 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'd rather not spend the money on the suite and spend it elsewhere while on vacation.... Now with that, I am in total agreement. The only reason that I'd book a suite is the extra room. I really don't want a butler, love eating in the MDR and Buffet. It's probably just the way I was bought up but I hate being fussed over. Having said all that we are looking at a couple of long cruises, 105 and 75 nighters and we are seriously considering a suite for those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloop-JohnB Posted October 22, 2014 #22 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) I don't think there is a "Class System" on Celebrity. Just a case of you pay more... You get more. And I am ok with that. I have found that in life very few people agree on what they would do with their money... Everyone has different priorities. Unfortunately some people can be quite RUDE when it comes to money ( Judgemental of others ) They are boors. I've know Mega Rich people in life as well as dead broke people... And everything I between. Having money doesn't make someone better than anyone else... Fortunately most people know this But there are certainly some who think that their money should speak volumes about them, their social status etc. They have no class (to put it mildly) I make a point of avoiding such people. They may as well enjoy their money... Cause in their oLd age it may be all they have I on the other hand intend to be RICH in experiences & friendships. A far better investment in my book Cheers! Edited October 22, 2014 by Sloop-JohnB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted October 22, 2014 #23 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I don't think there is a "Class System" on Celebrity. Just a case of you pay more... You get more. And I am ok with that. I have found that in life very few people agree on what they would do with their money... Everyone has different priorities. Unfortunately some people can be quite RUDE when it comes to money ( Judgemental of others ) They are boors. I've know Mega Rich people in life as well as dead broke people... And everything I between. Having money doesn't make someone better than anyone else... Fortunately most people know this But there are certainly some who think that their money should speak volumes about them, their social status etc. They have no class (to put it mildly) I make a point of avoiding such people. They may as well enjoy their money... Cause in their oLd age it may be all they have I on the other hand intend to be RICH in experiences & friendships. A far better investment in my book Cheers! Yes Yes Yes and Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gek Posted October 22, 2014 #24 Share Posted October 22, 2014 A true class system dictates responsibilities as well as privileges. The "upper" classes are expected to dress, act and talk in a certain way or risk being ostracized. This is not the case on Celebrity. I can cruise Aqua or Suite class and be as slovenly, obnoxious and boorish as I like so long as I cough up the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjoon Posted October 22, 2014 #25 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Its user pays just like most things I work in the dirt and sand all year and yes I book suites and fly business class and it has nothing to do with being seperated from others.It is my little treat for the rough nights and hard days in conditions which are far removed from the little bit of pampering I pay for when we take a break.I just really like the space a suite offers and certainly dont make a big deal about it to others.:) We feel the same as you. We both work hard all year. I'm also care for both my parents 83 & 91 who live with us. My husband has a stressful job and he also spends plenty of nights away in un glamorous mining accommodation. This is our 2 weeks that we feel that for a change someone is looking after us. We enjoy the space of a suite and if it comes with extra perks so be it. We are quiet people we would never make people feel like 2nd class passengers. Most of the time I don't even know what type of cabins people are staying in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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