Carnival enforces dress code

[jonbgd]

10+ years ago. when did the OP's friend's incident occur........2001??

 

Since you created ur AI to stir the pot and had not read the whole thread:eek:

 

I'm an original Platinum and the Capers was changed to the Fun Times in 2010

I still call it the Capers

Edited October 17, 2016 by jonbgd

[repo-cruiser]

They're stating it because the dress code clearly says:

 

"

The Steakhouse

The dress requirements for the Steakhouse follows the dress code specified for the Main Dining Room(s); if the evening is specified as 'Cruise Casual', shorts are not permitted."

 

https://help.carnival.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1093/~/what-to-wear---evenings

 

Even for the MDR code, the only part of the code that specifies "men's" in the Elegant code is "sleeveless tees" (women are allowed to wear sleeveless shirts, but that's likely because the style of a lot of elegant female clothing is sleeveless and not as typically so for men). The prohibited shorts has no gender listed. (Shorts are allowed on Cruise Casual nights for anyone and everyone, so long as they are considered "nice" enough and that basically amounts to not "cut-offs". This is in the MDR though, which is why the Steakhouse specifies otherwise.)

 

I imagine with things like capris and whatnot, it is a lot more likely a woman in shorts is not noticed by the Maitre'D in the MDR, plus not all MDRs on Carnival are super vigilant about policing the dress code, but the Steakhouse is not the MDR... it is much smaller for one and they are very specific about their code (even note it when they call to confirm) for another.

 

Personally, I don't care about dress codes. I only learn them because I, by nature, follow rules. But this thread, with the screenshot someone posted was the first time I heard about dress shorts for women being any different. That must be new or maybe even vary ship-to-ship, I don't know.

 

Edit: If you're saying someone got away with it somewhere, I mean... that might have happened (definitely, I assume, in MDR; less likely in Steakhouse, but not impossible) but that doesn't change the rule. If you get away with going 90 in a zone where the speed limit is 45, it doesn't change the speed limit...

 

You need to go read post #45. It is the steakhouse dress code and specifically shows women allowed to wear dress shorts.

[pe4all]

They need to enforce the dress code consistently on all cruises for Steakhouse, Elegant Night, and in MDR The Lido Buffet is casual dining. Our last cruise we saw lots of tshirts, shorts, and sandals on Elegant Night. :)

This. Tired of seeing cut-off jean short shorts in dining room on ANY night. Also baseball caps (on men Or women) and wifebeaters. If you have a rule, enforce it, or get rid of it.

[jimbo5544]

This. Tired of seeing cut-off jean short shorts in dining room on ANY night. Also baseball caps (on men Or women) and wifebeaters. If you have a rule, enforce it, or get rid of it.

 

I have only seen wife beaters on two occasions in all my cruises. While I know what you mean, I have never understood the logic to enforce it or get rid of it. Seems to me it would only get worse to have it removed......

[KCMiller]

I wonder how many people will miss this part of your post ;)

 

From the Carnival website:

 

"The Steakhouse

The dress requirements for the Steakhouse follows the dress code specified for the Main Dining Room(s); if the evening is specified as 'Cruise Casual', shorts are not permitted."

 

So shorts are not permitted. Not confusing at all.

 

KC

[KCMiller]

edit . .

Edited October 17, 2016 by KCMiller

[asalligo]

This is good to hear, love to see Carnival enforcing the dress code.

[Sweet Dutch Girl]

I am not a proponent of the dress code...I find it very sexist (since women are never held to the same standard as men) and on a cruise ship, that is supposed to be a relaxing casual experience, a whole lot of archaic nonsense.

Hence, I don't pay the $30 to go to the steakhouse, and based on the fact that it never seems to be full I am sure that Carnival's "dress code" is a turn-off for others. The elegant $100 a plate restaurants in my town, which are in the heart of the hotel district welcome everyone, even those dressed in vacation shorts and tees, and they are always "reservation only" full. And no one complains that elegant (which the food and decor is) is not limited to those who choose to dress up or down. In fact many of their advertisements read: open to all no matter how dressy or casual.

 

Hopefully cruiselines will advance into the 21st century where people are just more inclined to dress casually and comfortably and will stop equating "dress" with "fine" dining. And, for the record, casual doesn't equate in most people's mind with bathing attire, gym clothes or bathrobes. Other than the lowest common denominator casual folks are clean, pressed, and presentable in their knee length shorts. Can't always say that about the slovenly and unkept who may wear slacks and a shirt and "follow" the current code.

[Donh44]

Only on cruise casual nights.

 

I think that some are comparing MDR to the Steakhouse. I have been to the MDR many many times and see people in shorts. Depends on whether they enforce it or not. But in the Steakhouse, it is strictly enforced. No shorts.

[Je Souhaite]

No shorts in the Steakhouse. Any night.

 

I was responding to a post about jeans.

[minikiss]

The lack of enforced dress code in the MDR on the Vista totally spoiled dinning there for us. And don't get me started on the American table set up, awful!!:(

 

We normally like to eat at shared tables but decided to ask for a table to ourselves instead.

Hubby said there was a sign by the door that got totally ignored every night.

They let you in what ever you wore as far as I could tell, flip flops, shorts and t shirts all of which were "supposed to be no no's".

 

Sorry but I prefer to see some enforcement on what you wear, if you booked a nice restaurant back home would you turn up in beach shorts, t shirt and flip flops then. If you don't and dress smartly, then why dress like that to the dinning room on a ship.

 

I know elegant night is not for everyone so I expected to see not everyone dressed the same as we did (evening dress and Tux, Twice) . But they could have at least enforced it better on those 2 night for the enjoyment of those who do like to follow a code.

 

Flame me all you wish as I don't care. No way will we be back on a carnival ship.

[jimbo5544]

The lack of enforced dress code in the MDR on the Vista totally spoiled dinning there for us. And don't get me started on the American table set up, awful!!:(

 

We normally like to eat at shared tables but decided to ask for a table to ourselves instead.

Hubby said there was a sign by the door that got totally ignored every night.

They let you in what ever you wore as far as I could tell, flip flops, shorts and t shirts all of which were "supposed to be no no's".

 

Sorry but I prefer to see some enforcement on what you wear, if you booked a nice restaurant back home would you turn up in beach shorts, t shirt and flip flops then. If you don't and dress smartly, then why dress like that to the dinning room on a ship.

 

I know elegant night is not for everyone so I expected to see not everyone dressed the same as we did (evening dress and Tux, Twice) . But they could have at least enforced it better on those 2 night for the enjoyment of those who do like to follow a code.

 

Flame me all you wish as I don't care. No way will we be back on a carnival ship.

 

Well all righty then, happy cruising.

[Sweet Dutch Girl]

 

Flame me all you wish as I don't care. No way will we be back on a carnival ship.

 

No flaming...everyone is entitled to an opinion. Aren't you glad that the more expensive lines do cater to the "dress-up" for dinner mindset...but, alas, they too have gone the way of the "dodo bird" and no longer require tuxes and gowns.

 

Some of us just don't want to be extras in someone else's experience.

[poobears]

They're stating it because the dress code clearly says:

 

"

The Steakhouse

The dress requirements for the Steakhouse follows the dress code specified for the Main Dining Room(s); if the evening is specified as 'Cruise Casual', shorts are not permitted."

 

https://help.carnival.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1093/~/what-to-wear---evenings

 

Even for the MDR code, the only part of the code that specifies "men's" in the Elegant code is "sleeveless tees" (women are allowed to wear sleeveless shirts, but that's likely because the style of a lot of elegant female clothing is sleeveless and not as typically so for men). The prohibited shorts has no gender listed. (Shorts are allowed on Cruise Casual nights for anyone and everyone, so long as they are considered "nice" enough and that basically amounts to not "cut-offs". This is in the MDR though, which is why the Steakhouse specifies otherwise.)

 

I imagine with things like capris and whatnot, it is a lot more likely a woman in shorts is not noticed by the Maitre'D in the MDR, plus not all MDRs on Carnival are super vigilant about policing the dress code, but the Steakhouse is not the MDR... it is much smaller for one and they are very specific about their code (even note it when they call to confirm) for another.

 

Personally, I don't care about dress codes. I only learn them because I, by nature, follow rules. But this thread, with the screenshot someone posted was the first time I heard about dress shorts for women being any different. That must be new or maybe even vary ship-to-ship, I don't know.

 

Edit: If you're saying someone got away with it somewhere, I mean... that might have happened (definitely, I assume, in MDR; less likely in Steakhouse, but not impossible) but that doesn't change the rule. If you get away with going 90 in a zone where the speed limit is 45, it doesn't change the speed limit...

 

No you are the one mistaken the steakhouse specifically states in their own dress code they DO permit women to wear dress shorts, it's posted in the emails they send out with your reservation as been posted here several times. They do not permit men to wear them at all as a general rule but they have put up signs allowing them on certain nights. So the whole never thing is a crock. They are allowed daily for women other than elegant night and on the rare occasion with specific permission for men.

[jimbo5544]

No you are the one mistaken the steakhouse specifically states in their own dress code they DO permit women to wear dress shorts, it's posted in the emails they send out with your reservation as been posted here several times. They do not permit men to wear them at all as a general rule but they have put up signs allowing them on certain nights. So the whole never thing is a crock. They are allowed daily for women other than elegant night and on the rare occasion with specific permission for men.

 

.....and here I thought the crock was the thing that the onion soup came in.

[poobears]

.....and here I thought the crock was the thing that the onion soup came in.

 

 

What's in the crock depends on the type of crock you are referring to :D

[jimbo5544]

What's in the crock depends on the type of crock you are referring to :D

 

Way too much crock around here at times....;)

[poobears]

Way too much crock around here at times....;)

 

Sometimes the crocks around here overflow lol

[jimbo5544]

Sometimes the crocks around here overflow lol

 

The visual on that is beyond words....:)

[stevenr597]

While I do feel sorry that this individual was turned away, rules are rules, and one should expect that they will be enforced. The problem is not the rules or regulations, but Carnival has the habit, at times, of enforcing rules on a case by case basis.

[DebJ14]

Just chiming in.....

 

I booked the Steakhouse on Magic for January. Didn't prepay. Here's the confirmation I received....there's nothing in the email that prompted me on the dress code, but we've always worn dress slacks and collar shirts....

 

Dear Jeffrey

Thank you for choosing Prime Steakhouse.

Your reservation request for 4 Guests at 8:00pm on Jan 07, 2017 has been confirmed.

Should your plans change, please keep us advised at mcsupper@carnival.com

I will do my best to accommodate you at another time.

We look forward to serving you!

 

Your Steakhouse Manager,

Kristina Popic

Carnival Magic

 

P.S. We are having a promotion in the Steakhouse Embarkation and first Cruise Elegant nights of the cruise!

Guests booking a reservation on either night will receive a complimentary bottle of house wine or 50% off any bottle from our wine list!

 

 

I just got another confirmation this morning from the Freedom. It also has the dress code info on it.

 

Dear Deb

 

Thank you for choosing Sun King Steakhouse.

 

Your reservation request for 2 Guests at 7:00pm on October, **** 2017 has been confirmed.

 

Should your plans change, please keep us advised at fdsupper@carnival.com

I will do my best to accommodate you at another time.

 

We look forward to serving you!

 

Your Steakhouse Manager,

Jovana Bajkovic

Carnival Freedom

 

P.S. We are having a promotion in the Steakhouse Embarkation and first Cruise Elegant nights of the cruise!

Guests booking a reservation on either night will receive a complimentary bottle of house wine or 50% off any bottle from our wine list!

 

Cruise Casual Dress Code

Men: sport slacks, khakis, Jeans (no cut-offs), and collared polo shirts

Women: summer dresses, casual skirts, pants, capris, dress shorts, Jeans (no cut-offs) blouses and tops

Not permitted: Cut-off Jeans, men’s sleeveless shirts, tee-shirts, shorts, baseball hats, flip-flops and bathing suit attire

 

Cruise Elegant Dress Code

Men: dress slacks, dress shirts, and we also suggest a sport coat; men may also wish to wear a suit and tie or tuxedo

Women: Cocktail dresses, pantsuits, elegant skirts and blouses; ladies may also wish to wear an evening gown

Not permitted: Jeans, men’s sleeveless shirts, shorts, tee-shirts, sportswear, gym or basketball shorts, baseball hats, flip-flops and bathing suit attire.

[Aquahound]

P.S. We are having a promotion in the Steakhouse Embarkation and first Cruise Elegant nights of the cruise!

Guests booking a reservation on either night will receive a complimentary bottle of house wine or 50% off any bottle from our wine list!

 

 

Cruise Elegant Dress Code

Men: dress slacks, dress shirts, and we also suggest a sport coat; men may also wish to wear a suit and tie or tuxedo

Women: Cocktail dresses, pantsuits, elegant skirts and blouses; ladies may also wish to wear an evening gown

Not permitted: Jeans, men’s sleeveless shirts, shorts, tee-shirts, sportswear, gym or basketball shorts, baseball hats, flip-flops and bathing suit attire.

 

That is exactly what the dress code was on Liberty last week....and yes, we did receive a free bottle of wine on Elegant night. :)

[AALCRUISER]

We were on the Carnival Freedom the week of October 8, 2016. On the first elegant night there was a table of about 10-12 people at one table, and were traveling as a group. All the women were dressed up for the Elegant night and the men with the exception of maybe 2 had identical shirts, and beige shorts. All of the men were escorted out, but 2, who wore slacks. I guess someone did not inform their spouse/date what the dress code was, as the women were all dressed nice. So yes, they do enforce the rules. The next elegant night I do not think any of them showed up, but were there all of the casual nights.

[crusinpsychRN]

I got the confirmation from the SH but nothing about the dress code.

[Computer Nerd]

I find it almost funny when someone says, "abolish the code, but don't allow ....."

 

The day the abolish the code is the night I come to the MDR in my skivvies and a tie. Yes, I know the tie wouldn't be necessary but I want to show a little class. ;)