Carnival may resume US cruises in 2020

[Dermotsgirl]

19 hours ago, arby70 said:

So what happens if you don't own a smart phone.  There are a few of us that don't.  It would be nice if they would have the menus that you could get with the daily events schedule.  Or put the menus up in more places for people to look at for those without smart phones.

The way things are going, you’ll need to get a smart phone. 

[laumicmah]

So....wait...my Oct cruise was cancelled. They aren't cruising in Oct, right? Someone (xDis) said through Sept 30 above but I thought it is now through Oct 31, no?

Edited August 19, 2020 by laumicmah

[ontheweb]

12 hours ago, RD64 said:

I agree - people want to cruise - I want to cruise again as well. I do not - however - want to book a cruise that may or may not sail.

And it does not make sense to book a cruise that even if it does sail may end up with a quarantine.

[firefly333]

1 hour ago, Dermotsgirl said:

The way things are going, you’ll need to get a smart phone. 

Not going to do a smart phone just to cruise. If they give us a way to view menus I'll take my tablet with me to meals if I have to. I play war games on a 10 inch tablet, not a tiny phone. My cell phone stays in my safe for phone calls in a emergency or call my mom saying ok I'm on the ship, quit worrying, then in the safe it goes. Some day like some say maybe I'll learn qr codes but not just to cruise. 

 

Not sure where someone got the list above as the segment on FBN yesterday regarding the current msc sailing mentioned a mandatory covid test and 60% occupancy. .. neither on the list. The list doesnt give a source, so unknown. 

[firefly333]

29 minutes ago, laumicmah said:

So....wait...my Oct cruise was cancelled. They aren't cruising in Oct, right? Someone (xDis) said through Sept 30 above but I thought it is now through Oct 31, no?

I wondered too. My october cruise was cancelled along with all the other oct cruises. They arent going back and undoing the cancellations. Crazy thread.

[Dermotsgirl]

7 minutes ago, firefly333 said:

Not going to do a smart phone just to cruise. If they give us a way to view menus I'll take my tablet with me to meals if I have to. I play war games on a 10 inch tablet, not a tiny phone. My cell phone stays in my safe for phone calls in a emergency or call my mom saying ok I'm on the ship, quit worrying, then in the safe it goes. Some day like some say maybe I'll learn qr codes but not just to cruise. 

 

Not sure where someone got the list above as the segment on FBN yesterday regarding the current msc sailing mentioned a mandatory covid test and 60% occupancy. .. neither on the list. The list doesnt give a source, so unknown. 

I wasn’t really thinking about just cruising. 
 

I don’t know what it’s like in the USA, but in the U.K. , smart phones are used for numerous purposes, such as paying for parking, self scanning supermarket shopping, making appointments, and so on.

 

It’s extremely convenient, and people are being left behind If they don’t have a smart phone. 

[xDisconnections]

40 minutes ago, laumicmah said:

So....wait...my Oct cruise was cancelled. They aren't cruising in Oct, right? Someone (xDis) said through Sept 30 above but I thought it is now through Oct 31, no?

The CDC requirement is different than a CLIA recommendation. One needs to be followed legally and the other doesn’t.

 

The brand ambassador is hopeful to offer short cruises in October for new reservations and the current suspension of operations is considered voluntary.

[firefly333]

22 minutes ago, xDisconnections said:

The CDC requirement is different than a CLIA recommendation. One needs to be followed legally and the other doesn’t.

 

The brand ambassador is hopeful to offer short cruises in October for new reservations and the current suspension of operations is considered voluntary.

I really think all cruises were cancelled in october so I dont get your posts saying they arent.

 

Says all carnival cruises out of north america cancelled thru oct 31 on my canc letter.

[xDisconnections]

8 minutes ago, firefly333 said:

I really think all cruises were cancelled in october so I dont get your posts saying they arent.

 

Says all carnival cruises out of north america cancelled thru oct 31 on my canc letter.

Per Carnival today at this video link beginning at 2:35:

 

"When are you actually going to sail again not just take bookings?"

 

"Hope is on the horizon and it comes in November or as the press release that we put out and also the CLIA clearly puts out that we are hopefully going to cruise even before November on some shorter, modified cruises. I wanted to say to you and everyone else who is nervous again, I understand it. I totally get it. You look at what has happened in the past and you think about is it going to happen again in the future, but things really are getting better everyday."

 

The cancelation letter also notes this is voluntary per CLIA, not the CDC, and hints at the possibility of modified sailings.

 

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=583908578954860&ref=watch_permalink

 

Edited August 19, 2020 by xDisconnections

[firefly333]

2 minutes ago, xDisconnections said:

Per Carnival today at this video link beginning at 2:35:

 

"When are you actually going to sail again not just take bookings?"

 

"Hope is on the horizon and it comes in November or as the press release that we put out and also the CLIA clearly puts out that we are hopefully going to cruise even before November on some shorter, modified cruises. I wanted to say to you and everyone else who is nervous again, I understand it. I totally get it. You look at what has happened in the past and you think about is it going to happen again in the future, but things really are getting better everyday."

 

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=583908578954860&ref=watch_permalink

 

Doesnt make sense to cancel all october cruises out of the USA and then think they will allow them to be rebooked. Maybe out of Europe? UK? I see short ones out of Australia they keep trying to get me to book on carnival site. ... but they cancelled all cruises in oct from usa. There isn't time to get ships staffed here and rebook cancelled cruises and get the ships here for october. 

 

November next up to hope for here.

[xDisconnections]

3 minutes ago, firefly333 said:

Doesnt make sense to cancel all october cruises out of the USA and then think they will allow them to be rebooked. Maybe out of Europe? UK? I see short ones out of Australia they keep trying to get me to book on carnival site. ... but they cancelled all cruises in oct from usa. There isn't time to get ships staffed here and rebook cancelled cruises and get the ships here for october. 

 

November next up to hope for here.

No, USA is the intended region. They don't need to sail at full capacity and would be short cruises. Just to get a small rebound if possible. They will begin accepting reservations closer to that date if it's something they can do.

 

They canceled the cruises but that doesn't mean they can't post new ones. There's plenty of time to recruit and charter flights. They don't need an entire fleet- it could even be just one ship. If they're planning for November, it wouldn't be hard to get some crew here quicker through chartered flights. If occupancy is projected to be 20%, they don't need to be staffed as if it were 100%.

Edited August 19, 2020 by xDisconnections

[ProgRockCruiser]

21 minutes ago, firefly333 said:

I really think all cruises were cancelled in october so I dont get your posts saying they arent.

As @xDisconnections stated, they cancelled those cruises, but can always bring ships back into service, with new (apparently shorter) itineraries and bookings offered, sooner than originally planned.  Kinda like how your doctor might call and say an appointment slot has opened up, wanna come in early, or how restaurants do soft openings before their official grand opening?

 

As long as the sailings meet CDC requirements (and have a "distant foreign port", etc), they can happen.

 

Should they happen?  Will they happen?  :shrug: to both.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[xDisconnections]

4 minutes ago, ProgRockCruiser said:

As @xDisconnections stated, they cancelled those cruises, but can always bring ships back into service, with new (apparently shorter) itineraries and bookings offered, sooner than originally planned.  Kinda like how your doctor might call and say an appointment slot has opened up, wanna come in early, or how restaurants do soft openings before their official grand opening?

 

As long as the sailings meet CDC requirements (and have a "distant foreign port", etc), they can happen.

 

Should they happen?  Will they happen?  :shrug: to both.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

For roundtrip, a near foreign port will suffice. If the Discovery can do day trips to Freeport and Carnival has a history of offering a two night cruise to Nassau, what’s to stop them from offering 2, 3 and 4 day cruises assuming they meet regulations?

 

I personally wouldn’t want to go on those but that’s my opinion.

Edited August 19, 2020 by xDisconnections

[ProgRockCruiser]

1 minute ago, xDisconnections said:

For roundtrip, a near foreign port will suffice. If the Discovery can do day trips to Freeport and Carnival has a history of offering a two night cruise to Nassau, what’s to stop them from offering 2, 3 and 4 day cruises assuming they meet regulations?

 

I personally wouldn’t want them to but that’s my opinion.

Yes, you are correct - the "distant" part got auto-typed by my brain which has the whole PVSA thing rattling around for some reason.

 

Yeah, not my preference, but if I didn't have an 8-day booked for Dec I might jump at a quick 4-day/night Bahamas cruise in Oct just to wind down a bit.

 

2020, in a nutshell, thanks to Steven Wilson for the lyrics:

 

All my designs, simplified
And all of my plans, compromised
And all of my dreams, sacrificed

[Don Kehote]

1 hour ago, skridge said:

Do tell.

Nah, I think you already know, and I'm not going to feed you any further.

[TexasRon]

I am scheduled on a Bahamas cruise out of Port Canaveral in early November that they are asking for final payment on next week.  Not going to happen; the event we were cruising involved a HS reunion that has already been postponed so the cruise is a no go for us.  I assume we may lose the $50 deposit which is no big deal.  I'll wait it out and see when the next round of cancellations comes out--if it comes out before the due date, perhaps I can get those big bucks back!

 

I did see a few cruise ships headed back north while we were in the Keys a couple of weeks ago...apparently, they moved some of them that way (somewhere down south) from off of the southern Florida coast out of the way of Isaias.  I usually see them every trip but I did not expect to see any this time...

 

 

 

 

[keywest1]

One of our county's school system's superintendent announce his positive Covid results yesterday.  He is asymptomatic and was part of a small group who tested just to assure folks it is safe to reopen on Monday 🤨

[jetsfan58]

I thoroughly understand the continued rhetoric regarding the University/College and Cruising similarities. The most obvious dis-similarity would be the majority 18-21 year old College campus students that are still "grappling" with the "It Won't Happen To Me Theory". Hopefully the majority of seasoned cruisers would be way past this "State Of Denial" by now. 

 

Maybe we should try and spend more time educating these University students that this is "real" and that when they do begin cruising again that they follow the rules. 

 

We Will Cruise Again. Have Faith People. 

[ProgRockCruiser]

1 hour ago, TexasRon said:

I am scheduled on a Bahamas cruise out of Port Canaveral in early November that they are asking for final payment on next week.  Not going to happen; the event we were cruising involved a HS reunion that has already been postponed so the cruise is a no go for us.  I assume we may lose the $50 deposit which is no big deal.  I'll wait it out and see when the next round of cancellations comes out--if it comes out before the due date, perhaps I can get those big bucks back!

If you call Carnival, you may be able to re-schedule your cruise using the deposit already paid for the new booking.  You might need to bump up to whatever the current deposit amount is, though.

 

16 minutes ago, jetsfan58 said:

Maybe we should try and spend more time educating these University students that this is "real" and that when they do begin cruising again that they follow the rules. 

I'm pretty sure anyone who has raised kids through college will back me when I say: Nope, would be pointless.  21-year olds (or so) deny that reality exists until it bops them in the nose.

 

Recently my now-adult daughter, in her first real professional job, was reviewing her benefits package, which comes with a death benefit, and so needed to designate a beneficiary in case of her death.  She admitted this was the first time she actually had to consider the possibility of dying - it just simply hadn't been part of her headspace previously.  Death is what happens to old people, not people like her!

[jetsfan58]

From a Biblical vantage point our kids have always known about death and the "Ultimate Celebration" that accompanies the event. They still do believe the way " Millennials" do but they also learned early on that "reality" trumps peer pressure anytime. 

 

Firm believer that all of our adult opinions were formed at "home". I pray that someday we get back to "home Learning".    

[BlerkOne]

Once Carnival gets a go ahead, I think they could start, in effect, cruises to nowhere, as in never leave the dock. There would be some limitations, as in likely no casinos, but what the heck.

 

Even short cruises to any foreign port that is open to Americans could be offered with minimal lead time. A billboard announcement might be enough to get enough locals to bring the ship to target capacity.

 

A soft restart is probably what is best anyway.

[Bgwest]

On 8/17/2020 at 9:52 PM, yankees111 said:

That was a wasted 2 minute read!

The fact that the article is linked to an msn address told me all I needed to know. Didn't bother opening it.

[quattrohead]

Yes there are going to be some "test" cruises before they really start to get back into the swing of things.

Then there will be a case and the dodo will hit the fan again. It's all so silly.

[BlerkOne]

15 minutes ago, quattrohead said:

Yes there are going to be some "test" cruises before they really start to get back into the swing of things.

Then there will be a case and the dodo will hit the fan again. It's all so silly.

 

They could even make a cruise a reward for the guinea pigs getting C19 test vaccines. Some cruises would have masks, social distancing, and the normal reasonable precautions, and some could go all out for covid soup, and see what happens? What could go wrong? Everyone is vaccinated, right?

[pc_load_letter]

On 8/18/2020 at 7:45 AM, arby70 said:

So what happens if you don't own a smart phone.  There are a few of us that don't.  It would be nice if they would have the menus that you could get with the daily events schedule.  Or put the menus up in more places for people to look at for those without smart phones.

 

A cruise vlog I watched the other day indicated that for those that don''t have a phone, menus will be available. Not sure about the other features you may need one for like booking a show etc.

 

But, in most cases a tablet would work just like a phone. You can get apps just like a phone and all tablets pretty much come with wifi.