Vaping in Stateroom

[4774Papa]

12 hours ago, K12Guy said:

Well, I think she needs to work some overtime to make up for the cost of cancelling this cruise and losing the money. Vaping must be very important to her. I have never been an addicted smoker so I don't understand that need, but I know for some people it is real.

If she vapes in the stateroom next to ours I will knock at the door and ask that she take advantage of the very nice smoking areas (Warning 1). If she continues I will turn it over to security and she will receive Warning 2. If she continues I will complain again and she/you will be escorted off ship at the next port.

 

You may want to know that stateroom attendants and butlers are expected to report smoking violations to security, as well.

We adults have decisions to make and not every decision makes us happy.

 

It might be that her best decision is to go back to Princess. She certainly won't have to worry about someone like me on that line.

I have a cousin's husband that I like very much, who stopped smoking by vaping, but he still vapes after 5 years.  I don't like it at all, even though it is better than the smoking.

 

I have never smoked, but my wife and several friends once did and they quit.  Nicotine addiction is hard to end.  Good luck.

[cruisestitch]

13 hours ago, geordiebing said:

I know you can’t smoke in your stateroom or balcony, but can you vape. Has anyone tried it and been caught.

I ask this because my partner Vapes and she is says she used to vape on Princess.

This will be our first time on Celebrity and she now wants to cancel even though we would loose the full cost of the cruise as it is only three weeks away.

 

 

 

 

Celebrity provides locations for smoking and vaping.  Your partner doesn’t want to abide by their rules and is willing to a.) forfeit a lot of money by cancelling now which would b.) ruin your vacation or c.) take a chance on running afoul of Celebrity and being put off the ship which would d.) ruin your vacation and  e.) forfeit a lot of money and  f.) cause you to scramble to find an alternate and probably expensive way home.  
 

There are lots of red flags here.

[happy cruzer]

13 hours ago, geordiebing said:

I know you can’t smoke in your stateroom or balcony, but can you vape. Has anyone tried it and been caught.

I ask this because my partner Vapes and she is says she used to vape on Princess.

This will be our first time on Celebrity and she now wants to cancel even though we would loose the full cost of the cruise as it is only three weeks away.

 

 

 

 

Vaping was not allowed in the cabin on Princess.  So what has changed as far as partner is concerned?  Was not aware?  More afraid of getting caught on Celebrity?  Some other concern about the cruise?

 

Have a friend who vapes.  She uses a setting that no one would ever know she is using the device (besides looking directly at her) even in a car.  I'm sure she would use it in a cabin on a cruise with no issue.  YMMV

[JamieLogical]

The simple solution to me seems to be to just use the designated smoking areas on the ship. As far as I know, no cruise lines allow smoking or vaping inside your stateroom or on your balcony. Just because she was able to get away with it in the past doesn't mean she should expect to moving forward. I have reported people for smoking on balconies near mine on NCL. Security is always quick to respond.

[puppycanducruise]

21 minutes ago, JamieLogical said:

The simple solution to me seems to be to just use the designated smoking areas on the ship. As far as I know, no cruise lines allow smoking or vaping inside your stateroom or on your balcony. Just because she was able to get away with it in the past doesn't mean she should expect to moving forward. 

I agree. 

Just follow the rules.  Less worry and a better cruise.

Edited July 21, 2021 by puppycanducruise

[graphicguy]

14 hours ago, geordiebing said:

I know you can’t smoke in your stateroom or balcony, but can you vape. Has anyone tried it and been caught.

I ask this because my partner Vapes and she is says she used to vape on Princess.

This will be our first time on Celebrity and she now wants to cancel even though we would loose the full cost of the cruise as it is only three weeks away.

 

 

 

 

It’s really not going to matter if you cancel now for an FCC to use later.  The vaping/smoking rules are going to be the same regardless of when you cruise.

 

BTW, I don’t believe oil vaporizers are allowed, either.  They would be considered a fire hazard.  

[Smmessineo]

To start, my husband and I both smoke cigars.. There are several nice places to smoke on every Celebrity ship, accessible 24/7.I also used to vape for mental health purposes, (not nicotine) . I can't ever remember being so deprived or desperate that I couldn't take the 2 minutes to walk down to an approved smoking area.   She must have the attitude that vaping isn't smoking so she can do it where she pleases. 

Don't risk it. I know  I would be happy to turn in neighbors smoking or vaping in their stateroom.

And I agree with others that this is a relationship red flag. 

 

[gold1953]

I am one of many who would report and smoking or vaping . It is a serious infraction of the rules. I would refuse a stateroom that has a hint of either in the air as well

[zitsky]

10 hours ago, kevanmia said:

In terms of leaving behind a residual odor that would require some sort of stateroom cleaning, comparing vaping to smoking is like comparing a cup of coffee to crack cocaine.  I really can't tell the difference between a vape and my essential oil humidifier.  Especially after 30 minutes.  Teenagers who vape in the school bathroom do it because there's really no getting "caught" after you've left the scene of the crime.

 

Then again, if your policies can't adopt to a world of color, black and white it is.  Fair enough.

 

I can tell when someone's been vaping.  I think it's from the flavor added.  Not sure if I would notice without it.  Besides that, the "exhaust" is not something I want to breathe in anyway.  It's more than CO2.  It's all kinds of nasty chemicals.  I'm not convinced that vaping is harmless.

[JamieLogical]

3 minutes ago, zitsky said:

 

I can tell when someone's been vaping.  I think it's from the flavor added.  Not sure if I would notice without it.  Besides that, the "exhaust" is not something I want to breathe in anyway.  It's more than CO2.  It's all kinds of nasty chemicals.  I'm not convinced that vaping is harmless.

 

Very first Google result showed a study that found:

 

The vaping aerosols contained over 30 chemical compounds such as nicotine, nicotyrine, formaldehyde, acetaldehyde, acrolein, and acetol. A new compound in these aerosols was identified as glycidol, a probable or anticipated carcinogen by definitions of World Health Organization (WHO) and International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), and US EPA. Under the State of California Proposition 65, glycidol is known as a compound to cause cancer.

 

The study found that heating of the toxic chemicals in “e-liquids” generates additional harmful and potentially cancer-causing agents. The dose and levels at which these chemicals may exert a harmful effect on human health vary, and some case remain unknown.

 

The study says that, “Because emissions originate from reaction of the most common e-liquid constituents, harmful emissions are expected to be ubiquitous when e-cigarette vapor is present.”

 

https://www.trdrp.org/news/electronic-cigarettes-emissions.html#:~:text=The vaping aerosols contained over,acetaldehyde%2C acrolein%2C and acetol.

[davekathy]

16 minutes ago, gold1953 said:

I am one of many who would report and smoking or vaping . It is a serious infraction of the rules. I would refuse a stateroom that has a hint of either in the air as well

I ratted out a balcony vapor next to us on our last cruise. 🤣

[K12Guy]

24 minutes ago, gold1953 said:

I am one of many who would report and smoking or vaping . It is a serious infraction of the rules. I would refuse a stateroom that has a hint of either in the air as well

That's the other issue. For some reason smokers who now use the vaping system must think it can't be smelled. Wrong. My wife can smell someone two cars ahead of vaping. The odor doesn't just go away when the person doing the vaping disembarks. Stateroom attendants smell it immediately when they walk in.

[Bo1953]

15 minutes ago, davekathy said:

I ratted out a balcony vapor next to us on our last cruise. 🤣

dk - sounds like you are a viper!!! 🐍

 

LOL

 

In health and bon voyage

[davekathy]

3 minutes ago, Bo1953 said:

dk - sounds like you are a viper!!! 🐍

 

LOL

 

In health and bon voyage

Hell, I thought we were sailing thru the fog and Capt. Matt forgot to sound the fog horn. 

[DCPIV]

13 hours ago, Jim_Iain said:

I guess the alarms are sensitive to the  Vapor not the smell.

 

Yes, they detect particles or droplets, not scent.  As the other poster mentioned, all sorts of things can set them off.

[DCPIV]

20 minutes ago, K12Guy said:

My wife can smell someone two cars ahead of vaping.

 

I can smell it, too.  I don't know what irks me more, cigarette smoke or the sickly, sweet smell that so many vapers put out (usually cotton candy).  There are vape pens and materials that put out little to no odor, and I sure do appreciate it when someone uses those.

[K12Guy]

25 minutes ago, Bo1953 said:

dk - sounds like you are a viper!!! 🐍

Better to be a viper than a vape er er, right? 🤢

[Algebralovr]

11 hours ago, kevanmia said:

In terms of leaving behind a residual odor that would require some sort of stateroom cleaning, comparing vaping to smoking is like comparing a cup of coffee to crack cocaine.  I really can't tell the difference between a vape and my essential oil humidifier.  Especially after 30 minutes.  Teenagers who vape in the school bathroom do it because there's really no getting "caught" after you've left the scene of the crime.

 

Then again, if your policies can't adopt to a world of color, black and white it is.  Fair enough.

There is still an odor left in many cases, and often a film remains on surfaces.    I work as a rental property manager and you would not BELIEVE the condition of the walls and the HVAC filters from a household that uses vape.  The oily film that remains after they move out is just as bad as smoking.  

 

Depeneding on the essential oil humidifier, it may be releasing the same garbage into the air. 

[K12Guy]

1 minute ago, Algebralovr said:

There is still an odor left in many cases, and often a film remains on surfaces.    I work as a rental property manager and you would not BELIEVE the condition of the walls and the HVAC filters from a household that uses vape.  The oily film that remains after they move out is just as bad as smoking.  

 

Depeneding on the essential oil humidifier, it may be releasing the same garbage into the air. 

I'm constantly amazed at what I learn from these pages. This just shows that my ignorance has no bounds! 😎

[DCPIV]

13 minutes ago, Algebralovr said:

Depeneding on the essential oil humidifier, it may be releasing the same garbage into the air.

 

Pretty much.  They all are oil or wax based.  That's why the exhaled clouds hold together and linger for such distance and time.

[kearney]

Question: do electronic cigarettes generate any heat? In addition to odors and toxic chemicals... I wonder if there are concerns related to fire? You can't have irons, steamers, rice cookers etc. I wonder if there is any issue as a fire hazard? I have never smoked.. so am not familiar with vaping either... just wondering if that might feed into the concerns.

[DCPIV]

16 minutes ago, kearney said:

Question: do electronic cigarettes generate any heat? In addition to odors and toxic chemicals... I wonder if there are concerns related to fire? You can't have irons, steamers, rice cookers etc. I wonder if there is any issue as a fire hazard? I have never smoked.. so am not familiar with vaping either... just wondering if that might feed into the concerns.

 

They do generate some heat, but it's very little, and it's not something that draws the sort of current or generates the kind of heat as the devices you mentioned do.  It's the sort of thing you can carry around in your pocket.  

[Algebralovr]

20 minutes ago, kearney said:

Question: do electronic cigarettes generate any heat? In addition to odors and toxic chemicals... I wonder if there are concerns related to fire? You can't have irons, steamers, rice cookers etc. I wonder if there is any issue as a fire hazard? I have never smoked.. so am not familiar with vaping either... just wondering if that might feed into the concerns.

Generally the only heat is from charging them.  Many of them are charged by a USB charger and have a rechargable battery in them.  Occasionally, they can catch fire when charging, but it is rare on their OEM batteries.  Not much different than any other gadget that has a battery and is charged.    For example, have you ever felt the charger for an iPad when it is plugged in?  They are often a bit warm.  Same thing.  e-Cigs generally are not significantly warm when being used, from my understanding.  

[kearney]

Just now, Algebralovr said:

Generally the only heat is from charging them.  Many of them are charged by a USB charger and have a rechargable battery in them.  Occasionally, they can catch fire when charging, but it is rare on their OEM batteries.  Not much different than any other gadget that has a battery and is charged.    For example, have you ever felt the charger for an iPad when it is plugged in?  They are often a bit warm.  Same thing.  e-Cigs generally are not significantly warm when being used, from my understanding.  

Thanks... I wasn't sure if they heated oil... and that might be a secondary issue. But you are correct...all of our electronic devices have some risk of battery related fires. Let's keep that between us...:) 

[nocl]

13 hours ago, kevanmia said:

In terms of leaving behind a residual odor that would require some sort of stateroom cleaning, comparing vaping to smoking is like comparing a cup of coffee to crack cocaine.  I really can't tell the difference between a vape and my essential oil humidifier.  Especially after 30 minutes.  Teenagers who vape in the school bathroom do it because there's really no getting "caught" after you've left the scene of the crime.

 

Then again, if your policies can't adopt to a world of color, black and white it is.  Fair enough.

Except if the liquid contain nicotine, it will leave a film of it on surfaces that can be an issue. Do a search on 3rd hand exposure nicotine