Seems Like a Good Time to Buy RCCL Stock

[Bgwest]

After doing so, can someone please direct me to the form or electronic platform that I would use to submit my information in order to obtain the OBC associated with stock ownership?

 

Is a minimum of 100 shares required like other cruise lines?

[wrk2cruise]

Yes 100 shares is required for shareholder benefit.    Here is the online form

 

https://rclshareholderbenefit.questionpro.com/

[Bgwest]

2 hours ago, wrk2cruise said:

Yes 100 shares is required for shareholder benefit.    Here is the online form

 

https://rclshareholderbenefit.questionpro.com/

Thank you!!

[grandgeezer]

Some facts about RCL stock. Low during pandemic $19.25. All time high $135.05, paying $3.12, per share dividend. Stock price on 6/10/2020 $63.29 with none of their ships sailing. On 6/10/2021, $90.63 with talks of cruising starting up with limited number of ships and limited capacity. Finally on 6/10/2022, $45.75 with basically all the ships sailing, and little, if any restrictions on capacity. This doesn’t bode well for a very fast recovery.  Granted, the economy is in the toilet but none of my investments are down anywhere near as much as the cruise industry. If you are doing it for the shareholder obc, there are better ways to get a better return.

[basenji56]

5 hours ago, grandgeezer said:

Some facts about RCL stock. Low during pandemic $19.25. All time high $135.05, paying $3.12, per share dividend. Stock price on 6/10/2020 $63.29 with none of their ships sailing. On 6/10/2021, $90.63 with talks of cruising starting up with limited number of ships and limited capacity. Finally on 6/10/2022, $45.75 with basically all the ships sailing, and little, if any restrictions on capacity. This doesn’t bode well for a very fast recovery.  Granted, the economy is in the toilet but none of my investments are down anywhere near as much as the cruise industry. If you are doing it for the shareholder obc, there are better ways to get a better return.

Thank you for presenting facts.  When the stock paid a dividend, it could be worth it.  Now there is no dividend and the stock appears to have been diluted to keep the cruise line afloat. The OBC is too low as to drive investment decisions unless you sail many, many times a year.  

 

I bought one hundred shares in 2/2020 at $80.  Gulped when it went down to $19.25.  Sold when it got back to $75.00.  Should have held at that time but I was glad to get out at that time.

[Fly and Sail]

7 hours ago, grandgeezer said:

Some facts about RCL stock. Low during pandemic $19.25. All time high $135.05, paying $3.12, per share dividend. Stock price on 6/10/2020 $63.29 with none of their ships sailing. On 6/10/2021, $90.63 with talks of cruising starting up with limited number of ships and limited capacity. Finally on 6/10/2022, $45.75 with basically all the ships sailing, and little, if any restrictions on capacity. This doesn’t bode well for a very fast recovery.  Granted, the economy is in the toilet but none of my investments are down anywhere near as much as the cruise industry. If you are doing it for the shareholder obc, there are better ways to get a better return.

 

True and I'm glad I bought when it was rock bottom. That being said the stock price doesn't have to accurately reflect the state of the company or the current business environment.

 

Airline stock is also in the toilet right now and it followed almost the same pattern as cruise line stock.

Edited June 13, 2022 by Fly and Sail

[grandgeezer]

3 hours ago, Fly and Sail said:

 

True and I'm glad I bought when it was rock bottom. That being said the stock price doesn't have to accurately reflect the state of the company or the current business environment.

 

Airline stock is also in the toilet right now and it followed almost the same pattern as cruise line stock.

Stock prices have never reflected the state of the company. Stock price reflect where the company is going in the future, as predicted by the so called experts.  Like what I’ve read and heard, “The current price is no guarantee of what it will be in the future.

The current price of $41 is a lot closer to the $19 than it is to the $135.

[AmCam]

I bought it at $41 ish at some point in 2020 then sold it quickly when it went just above where I bought it (buyer's remorse, worrying about the long term impact of Covid).  You can imagine my chagrin when it shot up to the $90s not long after.  Just noticed that it's back in the $40s which surprises me.

[the penguins]

On 6/13/2022 at 6:32 AM, grandgeezer said:

Some facts about RCL stock. Low during pandemic $19.25. All time high $135.05, paying $3.12, per share dividend. Stock price on 6/10/2020 $63.29 with none of their ships sailing. On 6/10/2021, $90.63 with talks of cruising starting up with limited number of ships and limited capacity. Finally on 6/10/2022, $45.75 with basically all the ships sailing, and little, if any restrictions on capacity. This doesn’t bode well for a very fast recovery.  Granted, the economy is in the toilet but none of my investments are down anywhere near as much as the cruise industry. If you are doing it for the shareholder obc, there are better ways to get a better return.

When we decided to start cruising with 5 x B2B bought our 100 shares. My experience to date is:

Shares cost: 2200

OBC: 4800

Dividends: 1300

Good or bad I don't know but we like the OBC and invest it wisely in the casino.

 

 

 

[miched]

The best time to buy stock is when you have the money.  Stock isn’t considered a investment.   It is speculation.    Don’t buy if it is something you can’t afford to lose.

 

I lost money in 5 different companies that went bankrupt.   GM was one.   I worked for them and had stock  in the employee program.  

I bought 100 shares at $39.    $3900 isn’t much and  it isn’t even the cost of a cruise for us. If it doubles it may pay for one.   It is just fun money to get extra shareholders credit.    If I lose it -I can write it off against my gains.  
 

‘Happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

[Ipeeinthepools]

How much is the shareholder benefit per cruise?

[DCPIV]

13 minutes ago, Ipeeinthepools said:

How much is the shareholder benefit per cruise?

 

It varies by length of sailing.  Check #2 under the FAQ.

 

https://www.rclinvestor.com/contact-us/faqs/shareholder-benefit/

[Ipeeinthepools]

20 minutes ago, DCPIV said:

 

It varies by length of sailing.  Check #2 under the FAQ.

 

https://www.rclinvestor.com/contact-us/faqs/shareholder-benefit/

 

Thanks

[Arizona Wildcat]

To make sure all understand the shareholder credit cannot be combined with some special fares.  Travel agent, family fares for crew etc.

Also RCL has not paid a dividend since 2020 and is not likely to resume paying one soon because of the large debt load it has assumed.

[Ex-Airbalancer]

Bought 100 shares of CCL yesterday , at $9.90, if it gets back to $73 a share in 10 years I will be laughing

Have to look at some HAL CRUISES now

 

 

 

[KKB]

18 hours ago, Ex-Airbalancer said:

Bought 100 shares of CCL yesterday , at $9.90, if it gets back to $73 a share in 10 years I will be laughing

Have to look at some HAL CRUISES now

 

 

 

Yep getting 100 shares this week.

5 Princess/Carnival cruises in the next 8 mos. (1 is 2 wks)

I can’t get that kind of return on anything…even if it goes down more I’m ahead.

 

[wrk2cruise]

Was going to buy more shares yesterday, glad I didn't down 11.5% today.

[graphicguy]

57 minutes ago, KKB said:

Yep getting 100 shares this week.

5 Princess/Carnival cruises in the next 8 mos. (1 is 2 wks)

I can’t get that kind of return on anything…even if it goes down more I’m ahead.

 

Buying NCL, too.  I think all the cruise lines offer OBC at the same rate.  I usually sail 7 days.  On any of them, that's $100 OBC.  I average about 4 cruises/year.

 

NCL is trading at $10.40/share last I checked=$1040 total investment, with an annual $400 OBC.  GThat's a really good ROI.  Plus, buying low increases the odds of me selling high somewhere down the road.  Just put in for my $100 OBC credit for my upcoming July cruise.

 

I see Carnival is even better, trading at $8.44/share right now.  Probably won't sail them in the foreseeable future unless a crazy good deal comes around.

 

RCCL is trading at ~$35/share.  ROI isn't as good but as you say, the OBC per cruise would still net me $400 if I cruised 4 times/year with them (or 10+% annualized).  May not sail Royal but probably will sail Celebrity in the foreseeable future.

 

Here's my stock tip of the day....BUY LOW..take the OBC....SELL HIGH.

Edited June 16, 2022 by graphicguy

[Orator]

1 hour ago, KKB said:

Yep getting 100 shares this week.

5 Princess/Carnival cruises in the next 8 mos. (1 is 2 wks)

I can’t get that kind of return on anything…even if it goes down more I’m ahead.

 

$8.75 now. Predict we will see CLL at $5.00. RCL will go down to new lows. Most people who booked at inflated prices used FCC or booked at a time when inflation was low and stock market high. That’s what I feared when Celebrity shifted its emphasis on loyalty. 

[graphicguy]

https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/nclh/earnings

 

https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/ccl/earnings

 

https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/rcl/earnings

 

NCL and RCL are kinda where I thought they'd be.  Q4 will be telling.  But, we're seeing bookings fill the ships to "near" capacity, and certainly more than they were sailing with this time last year.  CCL is something of a mystery.  

 

Fares have stabilized.  They know how to make money in the cruise and hospitality vertical.  Revenue is real given the FCCs are probably (mostly) used up by now.

 

Can share prices go lower?  Yeah...the entire market is that way right now.  But, I also think the Fed's moves will have money tighten a bit and moving back into the Market.  That will be good for bargain hunters (like me) who are looking for revenue growth opportunities with these shares.

[Searanger]

Next Q report will be dismal for all brands.  The costs of startup have far outweighed revenue and will be reflected in the next report.  Look for a substantial downward plunge before stabilization.

[Dar & Bob]

I am looking at buying both CCL and RCL just trying to find the "bottom".  🙂

 

[verizon]

Celebrity hardly make any profit without sailing FULL capacity.

Thats why we see the new promotion CRUISE ONLY FACE .

Celebrity Knows Suite Life is not that Sweet without loyal customers.

I just keep my 100 shares.There are better stocks to buy during this down market.

Edited June 16, 2022 by verizon

[KKB]

3 hours ago, graphicguy said:

Buying NCL, too.  I think all the cruise lines offer OBC at the same rate.  I usually sail 7 days.  On any of them, that's $100 OBC.  I average about 4 cruises/year.

 

NCL is trading at $10.40/share last I checked=$1040 total investment, with an annual $400 OBC.  GThat's a really good ROI.  Plus, buying low increases the odds of me selling high somewhere down the road.  Just put in for my $100 OBC credit for my upcoming July cruise.

 

I see Carnival is even better, trading at $8.44/share right now.  Probably won't sail them in the foreseeable future unless a crazy good deal comes around.

 

RCCL is trading at ~$35/share.  ROI isn't as good but as you say, the OBC per cruise would still net me $400 if I cruised 4 times/year with them (or 10+% annualized).  May not sail Royal but probably will sail Celebrity in the foreseeable future.

 

Here's my stock tip of the day....BUY LOW..take the OBC....SELL HIGH.

Yep NCL will be grabbed too!

[Fly and Sail]

7 hours ago, Dar & Bob said:

I am looking at buying both CCL and RCL just trying to find the "bottom".  🙂

 

 

We're not too far off from that anymore since yesterdays drop. I believe the lowest for RCL was $17-$19 in 2020.