canderson Posted July 9, 2023 #101 Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Gourmet Gal said: No one is telling anyone they cannot dress up. Has someone suggested otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A Tucson Guy Posted July 9, 2023 #102 Share Posted July 9, 2023 All I can say is just oy vey!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted July 10, 2023 #103 Share Posted July 10, 2023 On 7/7/2023 at 9:44 PM, canderson said: Old, OLD argument. Let me try to put it to bed one last time. To answer your question, no, not much, but it does show your disrespect for the line's business model, and in some fashion, those who might have chosen the line because of it. Let's assume for just a moment that it is Silversea's intent to attempt to differentiate their product from others by, among other things, continuing to cater to those who still enjoy this style of dining, and hope to capture that segment of the cruising public by doing so. Who are you to object? But that is NOT silversea’s business model. You are free to dine in other venues without a tie. Silversea is making that clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted July 10, 2023 #104 Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, bitob said: But that is NOT silversea’s business model. You are free to dine in other venues without a tie. Silversea is making that clear We seem to be talking at crossed purposes. The challenge in the post to which I responded didn't address the casual venues where wearing a tie has no relevance to the discussion as far as I could tell. I certainly never suggested anyone need wear one where unnecessary. ??? Edited July 10, 2023 by canderson typoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincslady Posted July 10, 2023 #105 Share Posted July 10, 2023 This is another of those threads which now needs to bite the dust. No doubt it will be started up again in due course. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1talks Posted July 10, 2023 #106 Share Posted July 10, 2023 6 hours ago, RetiredandTravel said: "The next generation aren't going to wear them on vacation and SS will adjust." To hear the next generation talk of hoped-for travel, I expect the cruise industry will shrink considerably. SS will have to find a way to reinvent itself as a less costly proposition, to compete for the discretionary income of the next generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveywavey70 Posted July 10, 2023 #107 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I Work 334 days a year to enjoy my month off. I couldn’t give a bugger what the programme says I’m never going to be the least dressed person in the room. I,For one, embrace the chance.to get my glad rags on. Grumble and gripe all you like but if you want to wear shorts to dinner then chuck £499 in P&os direction for a weeks all inclusive but don’t complain when you get glassed at the bar. You takes your chances. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare drron29 Posted July 10, 2023 #108 Share Posted July 10, 2023 3 hours ago, canderson said: We seem to be talking at crossed purposes. The challenge in the post to which I responded didn't address the casual venues where wearing a tie has no relevance to the discussion as far as I could tell. I certainly never suggested anyone need wear one where unnecessary. ??? But it can reward you if you do dress up when not called for. Some of the crew really do like it. This is what happened to me on the Silver Explorer on the night of the Captain's farewell. Note the jacket and tie. Some may recognise Karolina a polar bear guard AKA the Chick with a Gun. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted July 10, 2023 #109 Share Posted July 10, 2023 9 hours ago, Gourmet Gal said: SS faces the reality that many of the old guard are just that…sorry to say, old and will not be cruising indefinitely. The next generations are simply not wedded to the concept that luxury means dressed to the nines. The World is always evolving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare david63 Posted July 10, 2023 #110 Share Posted July 10, 2023 The issue of dress codes on cruise ships applies across most (all?) cruise lines and is largely territorial. In general the American passengers do not want to be told what to wear, when and where and prefer to "dress down" whereas, again in general, the European passengers prefer to "dress up". This becomes more apparent when an American cruise line sails out of Europe as opposed to sailing out of the US - and actually comes as a surprise to many American passengers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labrasett Posted July 10, 2023 #111 Share Posted July 10, 2023 12 hours ago, david63 said: Are you sure that is correct? Twenty one nights = twenty two dresses (must have a spare - just in case) I dont even own 21 (or 22) dresses and only two of those are posh (evening) dresses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tothesunset Posted July 10, 2023 #112 Share Posted July 10, 2023 21 minutes ago, labrasett said: I dont even own 21 (or 22) dresses... Me neither. I just borrow my wife's. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted July 10, 2023 #113 Share Posted July 10, 2023 There is a live thread from the Dawn. Apparently there are few ties on board and men are removing their jackets. Don't shoot the messenger. Might have to do with the new "formal optional" I will know more when I board Moon in a few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted July 10, 2023 #114 Share Posted July 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Mr Luxury said: The World is always evolving Change is very difficult for many. Try reading a dress code thread on the Cunard boards. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted July 10, 2023 #115 Share Posted July 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, bitob said: Change is very difficult for many. Try reading a dress code thread on the Cunard boards. LOL Yes I suppose some get confused with white tie,black tie and morning dress. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lvshack Posted July 10, 2023 #116 Share Posted July 10, 2023 28 minutes ago, Mr Luxury said: Yes I suppose some get confused with white tie,black tie and morning dress. Don't try keeping up with the Jones ,bring them down to your level 😉🥂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lois R Posted July 10, 2023 #117 Share Posted July 10, 2023 3 hours ago, labrasett said: I dont even own 21 (or 22) dresses and only two of those are posh (evening) dresses. I don't own any dresses. I am not a "dress" gal. Slacks are my clothing of choice and I have never had an issue. Formal nights? Dressy slacks are always acceptable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted July 10, 2023 #118 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr Luxury said: Yes I suppose some get confused with white tie,black tie and morning dress. Just listen to your valets advice. He'll keep it all straight for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted July 10, 2023 #119 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, canderson said: Just listen to your valets advice. He'll keep it all straight for you! The problem comes when you have to wear medals and sashes. Very strict rules apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted July 10, 2023 #120 Share Posted July 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, Mr Luxury said: The problem comes when you have to wear medals and sashes. Very strict rules apply. Indeed. Different for all three styles of dress. Where's Bates when you need him? No white tie attire in my closet, so need to worry over the medals there. If I'm ever invited to a State dinner, a bespoke tailor might be the only choice in this part of the world unless one is willing to search for something 'vintage', but finding the bits and pieces to go along with it would be near impossible. The words "bibbed shirt" would draw nothing but blank faces in any clothier in Colorado (though I do own one, but with a contemporary collar - so I'd be out of luck there, too). Is Darcy still doing business in the UK, I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare calm down dear Posted July 10, 2023 #121 Share Posted July 10, 2023 16 hours ago, Host Jazzbeau said: Exactly. But I am being told that not fully complying with the Silversea dress code is disrespectful to other passengers and the cruise line. The Silversea dress code is much stricter than people here admit: "Appropriate formal wear for women is an evening gown or cocktail dress; men wear tuxedos, dinner jackets or dark suits. Tie is required... Following dinner, guests may take advantage of public spaces, however, jacket is required." Nothing here about sport coat on formal night, even if dark color. And having a requirement that goes beyond the dining room is definitely old fashioned. But I must be "respectful." Here on Dawn, it most definitely is not that, the formal night is now officially in the chronicles and on the app “formal optional”. It does not require a tie and on that night most were in jackets but not all, especially before dinner when many were casual taking advantage of the great light evenings as we sailed out on the fjords. Talking to Bruno the CD he says ‘formal optional’ is the new official name on these 7 day cruises. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted July 10, 2023 #122 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, canderson said: Indeed. Different for all three styles of dress. Where's Bates when you need him? No white tie attire in my closet, so need to worry over the medals there. If I'm ever invited to a State dinner, a bespoke tailor might be the only choice in this part of the world unless one is willing to search for something 'vintage', but finding the bits and pieces to go along with it would be near impossible. The words "bibbed shirt" would draw nothing but blank faces in any clothier in Colorado (though I do own one, but with a contemporary collar - so I'd be out of luck there, too). Is Darcy still doing business in the UK, I wonder? Yes Darcy clothing dot com I got rid of Bates as I couldn't cope with his falling over and now he and Mrs Bates have twelve children. Six boys with a limp and six girls who want to be pregnant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted July 10, 2023 #123 Share Posted July 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, Mr Luxury said: I got rid of Bates as I couldn't cope with his falling over and now he and Mrs Bates have twelve children. Six boys with a limp and six girls who want to be pregnant. Can't beat genetics, I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted July 10, 2023 #124 Share Posted July 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Mr Luxury said: The problem comes when you have to wear medals and sashes. Very strict rules apply. My husband was a military man -- he wears those medals on Cunard. Everyone does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare david63 Posted July 10, 2023 #125 Share Posted July 10, 2023 2 hours ago, calm down dear said: ‘formal optional’ is the new official name on these 7 day cruises. I suspect that may be the key phrase "7 day cruises" - the question is what is the definition on cruises greater than 7 days? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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