Another Carnival passenger jumps overboard

[BlerkOne]

On 7/24/2023 at 12:21 PM, Stick93 said:

If someone is hell bend on jumping there is really nothing stopping them, but on  Royal and NCL the ledges are higher in the common areas. The elation has very low railings. 

 

Also Carnival doesn’t have that many more ships and if you add the others there are many more than Carnival’s total. 

 

Apparently from a Royal Radiance class.

 

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

9 hours ago, BlerkOne said:

 

Apparently from a Royal Radiance class.

 

 

Kids who don't yet have a fully developed frontal lobe - yet somehow they're not well represented in the stats. It's amazing many of us survived our childhood/adolescent years !!

 

Tom

[Laszlo]

On 7/24/2023 at 12:28 PM, ontheweb said:

The US Coast Guard is searching for a 30-year-old cruise passenger who Carnival says 'jumped' from a ship on its way back from the Bahamas (yahoo.com)

Nice to see it say "Jumped" and not fell. Nobody falls off a cruise ship

[ontheweb]

19 minutes ago, Laszlo said:

Nice to see it say "Jumped" and not fell. Nobody falls off a cruise ship

Right, not without help from booze or unfortunately a murderer.

[Stick93]

These kids didn’t fall off _ maybe part of a circus act

[shipgeeks]

15 hours ago, BlerkOne said:

 

Apparently from a Royal Radiance class.

 

Yikes! Where are their parents? Do they know the kids are out there without them? Have the kids been told they are allowed out there on their own??

[BlerkOne]

1 hour ago, shipgeeks said:

Yikes! Where are their parents? Do they know the kids are out there without them? Have the kids been told they are allowed out there on their own??

Nobody seems to know when or where.

 

https://www.cruisehive.com/passengers-captured-sitting-on-cruise-ship-balcony-railings/107486

 

 

[AFS1970]

5 hours ago, Laszlo said:

Nice to see it say "Jumped" and not fell. Nobody falls off a cruise ship

We had this same debate when I worked in mall security, over the years there have been at least a dozen jumpers inside and outside of the mall. Management likes to call these incidents falls because they think it deters people from jumping. I used to argue that they should be called jumps because falls implied a failure or inadequacy of our safety barriers. 

[pe4all]

That is a really scary picture.  If one of those kids went overboard no doubt the parents would be on the phone with their lawyer suing.  Hopefully someone will be able to track down what ship it was.  

[princess76021]

That doesn't look like a cArnival ship to me.  It looks more like a princess ship, it's layered. The floor under it is wider.  None the less it's quite a fall.  And yes where in the world are their parents!!

 

Hugs from the oven (Texas)

[crzndeb]

59 minutes ago, princess76021 said:

That doesn't look like a cArnival ship to me.  It looks more like a princess ship, it's layered. The floor under it is wider.  None the less it's quite a fall.  And yes where in the world are their parents!!

 

Hugs from the oven (Texas)

Nobody knows the actual ship or if the pic is a true pic or was photoshopped. It appears by some to look like a RCI Radiance class ship. But it all of a sudden became viral, so who really knows the authenticity.

[Runaway Parent]

My daughter and son-in-law were on an NCL trip for their honeymoon when someone jumped. The ship and coast guard circled and searched for about 8 hours...finally left. It's not something that can be blamed on cruise ship lines and shouldn't harm a line's reputation. A jumper has made a personal decision. 

 

[jimbo5544]

14 hours ago, Runaway Parent said:

My daughter and son-in-law were on an NCL trip for their honeymoon when someone jumped. The ship and coast guard circled and searched for about 8 hours...finally left. It's not something that can be blamed on cruise ship lines and shouldn't harm a line's reputation. A jumper has made a personal decision. 

 

prob not part of the person's intent, it also ruins the cruise for the remainder of people on the ship.

[missholly24]

On 7/24/2023 at 7:58 PM, Elaine5715 said:

Suicide sites attract suicides.  The Golden Gate is one example.  There are several bridges in the area but Golden Gate is chosen.  

 

EXACTLY. And while I feel very bad for people who commit suicide its awful to "ruin" thousands of peoples vacations. The ship has to stop and turn around and look. Its obviously traumatizing to have had someone kill themselves. Explaining to children? I'm afraid its becoming a trend to do it this way. Sad. 

[Elaine5715]

On 7/26/2023 at 5:10 PM, crzndeb said:

Nobody knows the actual ship or if the pic is a true pic or was photoshopped. It appears by some to look like a RCI Radiance class ship. But it all of a sudden became viral, so who really knows the authenticity.

It was confirmed by Miami

[Cruiser_1977]

Can anyone state for certain (with some type of proof) whether or not Carnival ships have the same MOB technology mentioned above in that USA Today article? Maybe @chengkp75

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2023/02/22/cruise-ship-overboard-detection-system/11172790002/

Edited October 5, 2023 by JennyB1977

[chengkp75]

1 hour ago, JennyB1977 said:

Can anyone state for certain (with some type of proof) whether or not Carnival ships have the same MOB technology mentioned above in that USA Today article? Maybe @chengkp75

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2023/02/22/cruise-ship-overboard-detection-system/11172790002/

I know that as of pre-pandemic, Carnival ships did not have this technology.  There is also debate as to whether or not an "automated" system, rather than relying on shipside cameras that just record, but that can be accessed later for confirmation of an overboard meets the law.  There is also debate as to whether the CVSSA even has jurisdiction over foreign flag vessels.  This has not been challenged in court, but it does apparently fly in the face of the "uniformity" clauses of SOLAS, where every signatory nation agrees to not impose stricter standards on other members' vessels.  Even when Congress passed the "Cruise Passengers' Bill of Rights", it was posited to CLIA whether or not its members would approve, and CLIA voluntarily accepted the terms.

[DCDragonfly]

You make an interesting point, but really, if a cruise line responds to a safety or consumer-protection measure with "You can't make us!" it's a terrible look.

[Pellaz]

13 hours ago, JennyB1977 said:

Can anyone state for certain (with some type of proof) whether or not Carnival ships have the same MOB technology mentioned above in that USA Today article? Maybe @chengkp75

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2023/02/22/cruise-ship-overboard-detection-system/11172790002/

 

Some Carnival ships DID have infrared sensors installed before COVID.  During one BtF Tour on either Conquest or Freedom, we were shown the alarm annunciator on one side of the bridge wing, and there were sensor pods marked FLIR ("forward-looking infrared") at the back of the ship.  It's been a while, but as I recall they were mounted at the corners, so they could cover the ship's sides looking forward.   

This certainly does not mean that ALL Carnival ship-classes have them, but that ship certainly did.  

[chengkp75]

8 hours ago, DCDragonfly said:

You make an interesting point, but really, if a cruise line responds to a safety or consumer-protection measure with "You can't make us!" it's a terrible look.

The simple act of flagging the ships in Panama or Bahamas is stating that "you can't make us".

[sparks1093]

51 minutes ago, chengkp75 said:

The simple act of flagging the ships in Panama or Bahamas is stating that "you can't make us".

Yep, biggest can of "you can't make us" available.