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What is your opinion on what Princess calls "More Ashore?"

I don't care for it. I cruise to be on a ship. The ports are important but are secondary to being on board. A few hours during the day is nice.

I'd rather have more sea days than more time ashore.
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Just got off the Royal Princess yesterday and had gone the day before to the future cruise people. Wanted to talk about a cruise in the late fall. Saw that "more ashore thing" and questioned on the cruise what cities would this entail. The cruise person looked at it and couldn't find any city that would be an overnight.
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On the chance this is not a wind-up but a serious question :

All "More Ashore" signifies is that the ship stays in port past 8 PM on those evenings.

As you would obviously be disenclined to take an evening excursion, or even dinner on your own ashore...what in God's name is the difference between the ship being moving or still docked while you are in the dining room, or the theater, or elsewhere on the ship--or even already in bed for the night?

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I love being in a great port overnight. Just makes for a more relaxing day not watching the clock to get back on time. I sail for itinerary first. It’s very popular in Europe and Australia.
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Originally posted by fishywood
On the chance this is not a wind-up but a serious question :

All "More Ashore" signifies is that the ship stays in port past 8 PM on those evenings.

As you would obviously be disenclined to take an evening excursion, or even dinner on your own ashore...what in God's name is the difference between the ship being moving or still docked while you are in the dining room, or the theater, or elsewhere on the ship--or even already in bed for the night?

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Actually you might be surprised at hw many people do eat ashore when the ship is in port overnight or a late departure.
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#6
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We love later night departures, and overnight stays - depending on the ports.. When a ship is in port later, we're very inclined to eat dinner in port, take in some local nightlife or such, explore further than we can in 6 or 7 hours.. Overnights are even better, getting the chance to really explore more, nightlife, mix and mingle. It's one reason we've done a few more Celebrity sailings than Princess recently - overnights in various ports..
We're strongly considering the Cabo overnight next fall, would fit perfectly with what we want to experience there.
We also enjoy our sea days - so a mix of both is a good fit for us...
#7
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Originally posted by GUT2407
Actually you might be surprised at hw many people do eat ashore when the ship is in port overnight or a late departure.
Of course they do.

My point was that it makes not a whit of difference to those who choose to remain on board--even though the OP seems to believe that those nights are some sort of conspiracy by Princess against the people who prefer sea time.
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Debarking is a cruel procedure done to dogs.
Upgrades, Upsellls and Move Over Offers are completely different things.
As are being denied boarding and being disembarked early.
And don't get me started on Port Charges vs. Government Taxes, Fees, and Port Expenses.
The Jones Act is for cargo. The PVSA is "that terrible law" that restricts USA domestic sailings. But without which there would likely be no cruise ships with casinos, duty free shops, and international crew members willing to work fantastically hard every single day.
Lots of people fly in the morning of the cruise and catch crazy early flights home. Why ask us if you can? Just to be harassed by the regulars?
No hotels have free shuttles, free breakfast, free wifi, or free parking. You pay in the rate. And could have found a better deal paying by the piece.
And don't forget: the cruise line is in complete control of the weather, political unrest, medical emergencies, and anything else that delays or re-routes your cruise. Be sure to demand compensation as it is you and only you who were affected.
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Originally posted by fishywood
Of course they do.

My point was that it makes not a whit of difference to those who choose to remain on board--even though the OP seems to believe that those nights are some sort of conspiracy by Princess against the people who prefer sea time.

The OP never said any such thing about a conspiracy by Princess against the people who prefer sea time, those were your words entirely. The OP merely said he prefers more time on the ship.
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#9
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Originally posted by stoneharborlady
The OP never said any such thing about a conspiracy by Princess against the people who prefer sea time, those were your words entirely. The OP merely said he prefers more time on the ship.
OK maybe "conspiracy" was over the top. But no more so than the unrelenting negative tone of the OP's statement--which they are representing as fact rather than their personal opinion:

Originally posted by damiross
I don't care for it. I cruise to be on a ship. The ports are important but are secondary to being on board. A few hours during the day is nice.
My earlier wondering whether this may be a wind-up stems from the OP's total misunderstanding of what "More Ashore" actually signifies. And their aversion to it being so strong as to think they do not grasp the overall zeitgeist of a cruise vacation in the first place. Perhaps they would be better off chartering a yacht and just bobbing around at sea for the duration.
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And don't get me started on Port Charges vs. Government Taxes, Fees, and Port Expenses.
The Jones Act is for cargo. The PVSA is "that terrible law" that restricts USA domestic sailings. But without which there would likely be no cruise ships with casinos, duty free shops, and international crew members willing to work fantastically hard every single day.
Lots of people fly in the morning of the cruise and catch crazy early flights home. Why ask us if you can? Just to be harassed by the regulars?
No hotels have free shuttles, free breakfast, free wifi, or free parking. You pay in the rate. And could have found a better deal paying by the piece.
And don't forget: the cruise line is in complete control of the weather, political unrest, medical emergencies, and anything else that delays or re-routes your cruise. Be sure to demand compensation as it is you and only you who were affected.
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Originally posted by fishywood
...what in God's name is the difference between the ship being moving or still docked while you are in the dining room, or the theater, or elsewhere on the ship--or even already in bed for the night?
I like being on the sea, watching the waves, looking for whales, and just being away from the land.
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#13
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Originally posted by Knickearth
Just got off the Royal Princess yesterday and had gone the day before to the future cruise people. Wanted to talk about a cruise in the late fall. Saw that "more ashore thing" and questioned on the cruise what cities would this entail. The cruise person looked at it and couldn't find any city that would be an overnight.
The Royal Princess may not do an overnight but some other ships do.
I've seen in the Cruise Atlas overnights in San Francisco, Cabo San Lucas, and Quebec City.

I have the feeling that Princess does it more to save money than for the passengers. No, I'm not saying there's a conspiracy.
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#14
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Originally posted by damiross
The Royal Princess may not do an overnight but some other ships do.
I've seen in the Cruise Atlas overnights in San Francisco, Cabo San Lucas, and Quebec City.

I have the feeling that Princess does it more to save money than for the passengers. No, I'm not saying there's a conspiracy.
While we like being on ships, we pick cruises for the itineraries and an extra night in many ports would be great. We had an overnight in Lima last year (I think all SA cruises porting in Lima do that so folks can take an excursion to Machu Picchu if desired) and it was great. We had two full days of touring ( 9 am to 11 pm and 9 am to 3 pm) that was wonderful. We also overnighted in Quebec City on a cruise from there to Fort Lauderdale in 2013. Again, we appreciated the extra day available for sightseeing - even though we had flown in 2 days early. And in 2009 we had an overnight in St. Petersburg - again there is so much to see in that city that even 2 days seemed too few but was much better than sailing out the same day we arrived.
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Originally posted by damiross
The Royal Princess may not do an overnight but some other ships do. I've seen in the Cruise Atlas overnights in San Francisco, Cabo San Lucas, and Quebec City. I have the feeling that Princess does it more to save money than for the passengers. No, I'm not saying there's a conspiracy.
Duplicate. Sorry!
#16
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We love the overnights in port. Last year we had an overnight in Athens so after a days touring about we were able to have dinner in the Plaka area which was great. Great chance to experience the local lifestyle far more than rushing back to the ship.
I certainly wouldn't want this too often but where it does happen I have found it great. We were looking at a Princess cruise the other day and the ship arrived at a port at 3pm and left at 9pm (I think it was Penang from memory). This is a waste of time so I rather More Ashore than a useless amount of time.
#17
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It's so easy to choose a cruise that suits you : more sea days, overnights, late departure, early departure..... The choice is so large, even on quite similar itineraries (Dublin ovenight on Royal Princess or no overnight and Kirkwall as another port of call, on the same ship twelve days later). So, just choose the cruise and cruiseline that suit your own taste and be happy!


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#18
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Originally posted by fishywood
As you would obviously be disenclined to take an evening excursion, or even dinner on your own ashore...what in God's name is the difference between the ship being moving or still docked while you are in the dining room, or the theater, or elsewhere on the ship--or even already in bed for the night?
Casino and shops being open...

Unless there are some special regulations, like the bahamas...

To me, it's a good thing. More people off the ship -- fewer people on the ship.
Less crowding for dinner, etc.
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#19
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I chose our British isles cruise itinerary last summer because of the overnight in Dublin. I wanted the opportunity to see more than we could in one day. We've also been on cruises with overnight stays in Quebec and in Nassau. The latter was not planned, and we did not venture off the ship at night there. We've had late departures from several ports, but most of the time we want to eat on the ship since it's already paid for. We're more likely to eat lunch away from the ship.
#20
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Quebec isn't new, been that way for years because of logistics. Quebec airport is small compared to say, Toronto, Montreal and most times there are land trips by Princess coming to the ship also, out of necessity, overnight for the ship.

I am a sea day person, love those days but don't mind if a ship stays in port longer, sailing away at night seeing the city lights not a bad thing at all.