Florida_cruisers Posted November 21, 2019 #1451 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I see that in a few weeks the China schedule deployment will come out. However I see that it says “phase 1.” Any idea on what that could mean? I am hoping to book for Summer 2021 out of Shanghai/Hong Kong to Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted November 21, 2019 Author #1452 Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Florida_cruisers said: Any idea on what that could mean? China itinerary roll outs are unique and not sure any history can be used to predict future schedules. All of this will likely be discussed in the existing 21-22 deployment thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeToGetNauti Posted November 21, 2019 #1453 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I am waiting for 2021 itineraries out of Cape Liberty to be released to the Caribbean and Bahamas. I assumed that would be this week. I see someone said not until week of December 2nd because cruises out of that port are considered Northeast. That doesn't sound right to me. I always thought it was based on where the ship was going? Any insight? Cause if I can wait 2 weeks instead of checking 3 times a day that would be great. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4774Papa Posted November 21, 2019 #1454 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, eel said: We are considering the Celebrity Reflection TA out of Rome for Fall 2021. The only possible Royal TA from Rome in that time frame is Odyssey but I think that won’t come out for a few more weeks. The Reflection prices are about the same as the Connie prices. However, the ports on the Connie ports include three that we have never been to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4774Papa Posted November 21, 2019 #1455 Share Posted November 21, 2019 23 minutes ago, Florida_cruisers said: I see that in a few weeks the China schedule deployment will come out. However I see that it says “phase 1.” Any idea on what that could mean? I am hoping to book for Summer 2021 out of Shanghai/Hong Kong to Japan. We did a wonderful Japan and China cruise that included 5 ports in Japan, Shanghai, Taiwan and ended in HK. That was on Celebrity Millennium. We had done a three week tour of China with Vantage World Travel that was awesome. I would advise to do China right, plan on a land tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4774Papa Posted November 21, 2019 #1456 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, eel said: We are considering the Celebrity Reflection TA out of Rome for Fall 2021. The only possible Royal TA from Rome in that time frame is Odyssey but I think that won’t come out for a few more weeks. I spoke with Maritza at Royal C. about Odyssey and she said that it would not be going out of Rome for a TA. I was a bit shocked by the prices for the three day cruise from Rome to Barcelona as well as the TA from Barcelona home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted November 21, 2019 #1457 Share Posted November 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, TimeToGetNauti said: I am waiting for 2021 itineraries out of Cape Liberty to be released to the Caribbean and Bahamas. I assumed that would be this week. I see someone said not until week of December 2nd because cruises out of that port are considered Northeast. That doesn't sound right to me. I always thought it was based on where the ship was going? Any insight? Cause if I can wait 2 weeks instead of checking 3 times a day that would be great. lol Cruises from Cape Liberty, no matter where they're headed, are usually included in the Northeast release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopster95 Posted November 21, 2019 #1458 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 hours ago, mets123 said: Not true about the Voyager class. I was on the Voyager or Explorer from Cape Liberty about eight years ago and we went to Key West. This doesn't sound right. Key West was tested only once (Mariner of the Seas) in 2012. They didn't/couldn't dock... got there, turned around and headed away. Unless I missed it on this forum, Voyager Class never tried this again. Here's the original link with photos from the webcam of that test https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/1552118-voyager-class-to-test-key-west/page/3/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare little britain Posted November 21, 2019 #1459 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, 4774Papa said: I spoke with Maritza at Royal C. about Odyssey and she said that it would not be going out of Rome for a TA. I was a bit shocked by the prices for the three day cruise from Rome to Barcelona as well as the TA from Barcelona home. What prices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4774Papa Posted November 21, 2019 #1460 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, little britain said: What prices? little britain, I just checked the Royal C. website for the 3 day cruise from Rome to Barcelona and the 13 day TA from Barcelona to Ft. Lauderdale. The prices are far lower than what Maritza told me over the phone. The 3 day is little over $500 for a balcony and the TA is $1399 for a balcony, which happens to be about $1900 for 16 days. It is a hundred dollars more than the 15 day TA that I booked with Celebrity. Maritza quoted me $1200 for the three day in a balcony and $2800+ for the TA. I didn't check the website because I had her on the line (that was yesterday). Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted November 21, 2019 #1461 Share Posted November 21, 2019 54 minutes ago, 4774Papa said: little britain, I just checked the Royal C. website for the 3 day cruise from Rome to Barcelona and the 13 day TA from Barcelona to Ft. Lauderdale. The prices are far lower than what Maritza told me over the phone. The 3 day is little over $500 for a balcony and the TA is $1399 for a balcony, which happens to be about $1900 for 16 days. It is a hundred dollars more than the 15 day TA that I booked with Celebrity. Maritza quoted me $1200 for the three day in a balcony and $2800+ for the TA. I didn't check the website because I had her on the line (that was yesterday). Amazing. I don't see Odyssey in Europe on the .com or .co.uk sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mets123 Posted November 21, 2019 #1462 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Hoopster95 said: This doesn't sound right. Key West was tested only once (Mariner of the Seas) in 2012. They didn't/couldn't dock... got there, turned around and headed away. Unless I missed it on this forum, Voyager Class never tried this again. Here's the original link with photos from the webcam of that test https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/1552118-voyager-class-to-test-key-west/page/3/ I stand corrected. It was the Grandeur out of Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida_cruisers Posted November 21, 2019 #1463 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 hours ago, 4774Papa said: We did a wonderful Japan and China cruise that included 5 ports in Japan, Shanghai, Taiwan and ended in HK. That was on Celebrity Millennium. We had done a three week tour of China with Vantage World Travel that was awesome. I would advise to do China right, plan on a land tour. I have been to China before on a land tour and it was amazing! This time we want to go in a cruise to Japan with a group of family and friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted November 21, 2019 #1464 Share Posted November 21, 2019 44 minutes ago, bigeck said: I don't see Odyssey in Europe on the .com or .co.uk sites It’s not on the travel agent site either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack McGowan Posted November 21, 2019 #1465 Share Posted November 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: It’s not on the travel agent site either Aren’t Oddysey sailings only getting released in December? In Europe phase 2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted November 21, 2019 #1466 Share Posted November 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jack McGowan said: Aren’t Oddysey sailings only getting released in December? In Europe phase 2... Yes. We were wondering how 4774Papa obtained pricing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare little britain Posted November 21, 2019 #1467 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, bigeck said: I don't see Odyssey in Europe on the .com or .co.uk sites Neither do I..... hence my question!! 🤷♀️ There is a Harmony 3n Rome to Barcelona though.. Edited November 21, 2019 by little britain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted November 21, 2019 #1468 Share Posted November 21, 2019 37 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: It’s not on the travel agent site either As LB says, it looks like Harmony 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare bobmacliberty Posted November 22, 2019 #1469 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Any hints yet about what Ovation is doing after her Alaska season? Was hoping to hitch a ride to Hawaii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted November 22, 2019 #1470 Share Posted November 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, bobmacliberty said: Any hints yet about what Ovation is doing after her Alaska season? Was hoping to hitch a ride to Hawaii. Hawaii ports have started just showing port bookings 18 months in advance now, so it is difficult to confirm routes. Ovation is definitely booked for the Australian season with ports showing scheduled stops in 2021-22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbethel11 Posted November 22, 2019 #1471 Share Posted November 22, 2019 It still doesn't make sense. Short Caribbean cruises weren't supposed to be released until December 16th, 2019. Yet I see Symphony's 5-day sailing in December, but no 6-day sailing in August! Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eel Posted November 22, 2019 #1472 Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, 4774Papa said: I spoke with Maritza at Royal C. about Odyssey and she said that it would not be going out of Rome for a TA. I was a bit shocked by the prices for the three day cruise from Rome to Barcelona as well as the TA from Barcelona home. Wow, that would be a surprise! It is supposed to be home ported in Rome. They would have to have a one way to another port like Barcelona and then start the TA there. Thanks for letting us know! I think the price on Reflection has already gone up! We may have to look more closely at Connie. By the way, in 2017 we did a cruise out of Rome and then did a one way flight on Vueling from Italy to Barcelona that was pretty cheap. Short flights in Europe on discount carriers are always a reasonable option. No need to cruise from Rome to Barcelona! Edited November 22, 2019 by eel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted November 22, 2019 #1473 Share Posted November 22, 2019 This article claims Quantum has at least 5 years in Singapore. https://cruisepassenger.com.au/deals-on-the-cards-as-royal-caribbean-targets-australia-for-fly-cruise-passenger/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ethanol95 Posted November 22, 2019 #1474 Share Posted November 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, springaussie said: This article claims Quantum has at least 5 years in Singapore. https://cruisepassenger.com.au/deals-on-the-cards-as-royal-caribbean-targets-australia-for-fly-cruise-passenger/ Makes sense since they just refurbished Quantum for the International market, though I'm still hoping for a 2nd additional seasonal ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timf2001 Posted November 22, 2019 #1475 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, jbethel11 said: It still doesn't make sense. Short Caribbean cruises weren't supposed to be released until December 16th, 2019. Yet I see Symphony's 5-day sailing in December, but no 6-day sailing in August! Why? The release dates are supposed to be for the whole ship, not specific sailings. This phase was all the ships that primarily do 7+ day sailings. They may also do some shorter sailings, but they are the exception not the rule. The Short Caribbean release is for ships that primarily do 3-5 day sailings. I know that still doesn't explain why there are certain sailings that haven't opened for sale yet, but it's not because they are specifically waiting for the Short Caribbean release date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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