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Wow. The ships keep getting bigger and bigger. Dream Cruises has announced a new ship that will carry more passengers (10.000) than a lot of small towns' entire populations. Who's up for this? Just imagine how long the buffet queue is going to be. 

 

https://cruisefever.net/cruise-line-building-a-nearly-10000-passenger-cruise-ship-with-a-theme-park/

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Sounds like an absolute nightmare to me - wouldn't go even if it was free (feel the same way about Oasis and Allure).  In reading the article, the 10k passengers means 4 in every stateroom, which of course would be 2-3 kids per stateroom, times 2500 staterooms!  I prefer my HAL cruises where kids are very few (and generally well behaved).  I'll enjoy Disney when I'm wanting a theme park on vacation ;-) 

 

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Not for me.

I switched from Princess to HAL a few years ago, because Princess ships were getting bigger. They still had a few smaller ships, but I could never find an itinerary on one that suited me.

I like HAL Vista class ships they are just right for me.

I won't sail on any ship that has more than 2,000 passengers. 

I am somewhat concerned that HAL will eventually replace their smaller ships, as the newest ships in their line are large Pinnacle Class ships. 

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We prefer 1800-2800.  Celebrity Solstice are perfect for us in terms of both size and design.  HAL/Princess/Carnival Corp   Vista/Spirit class are also perfect for us as are the Celebrity Millennium class ships.

 

No interest in 10K.

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I will keep sailing on the smallest ships I can afford for as long as I can. 

 

The largest ships I've been on are Princess' Royal class and that was much to big for me. My "ideal" ship is the Aegean Odyssey with about 350 passengers -- I took about a cruise a year on her for the last decade but now she is chartered to Road Scholar and I feel sort of homeless and adrift...  I tried an R-class ship with Azamara and enjoyed it; in 2021 I will also try one of Oceania's R-class ships. 

 

However, I am also on the Westerdam for a cruise this year and one next year.  Not sure if I would go any larger...

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1 minute ago, ski ww said:

I wouldn't cruise on one of those if it was free.  Think of what it will be like when they dock in some small Caribbean island ports & you dock next to it.. 

 

Or even worse need to tender in, which has a high probability in many ports of call due to the size of the ship. Yuck!!!!!!

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Oasis of the Seas holds 6,300 passengers and is 225,300 tons. This new ship will cram almost 4000 ADDITIONAL guests in a smaller space - only 204,000 tons. Don't know who is more crazy, the cruise line or the guests?

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Recently I have been reading where the native populations are starting to protest the number of cruise passengers arriving daily.  Grand Cayman is one such island.  There are days where you have 10K+ passengers in some of these ports and the locals can't handle it and don't like it.  I think we will see more and more islands starting to restrict the number of cruise ships and passengers they will allow on any given day.  Can't say I blame them.

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4 hours ago, stratixman said:

Wow. The ships keep getting bigger and bigger. Dream Cruises has announced a new ship that will carry more passengers (10.000) than a lot of small towns' entire populations. Who's up for this? Just imagine how long the buffet queue is going to be. 

 

https://cruisefever.net/cruise-line-building-a-nearly-10000-passenger-cruise-ship-with-a-theme-park/

I wouldn't go even if you gave me a free ticket.  I like under 2K passengers.

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Maybe the idea is to eventually have these monster ships do cruises to nowhere....just go out and ride around in circles for a few days with no port calls at all.  Seems there are a lot of people who like the idea of a floating theme park so why bother with actually going to ports. Keep em onboard where you can nickle and dime them to death spending more $$.   While they are at it maybe they can just go a few miles off shore and anchor.  Why bother with burning unnecessary fuel?   Double or triple the size of casinos and keep them open 24/7.   Add a few dozen more fee required restaurants.  Add a few dozen more shops open 24/7.  More water slides, go carts, rock climbing walls, fee required shows, movies, etc.   The bean counters are salivating at the thought.

 

No thanks.

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3 hours ago, twodjs said:

Oasis of the Seas holds 6,300 passengers and is 225,300 tons. This new ship will cram almost 4000 ADDITIONAL guests in a smaller space - only 204,000 tons. Don't know who is more crazy, the cruise line or the guests?


Wow!  Having sailed Oasis Class Several times, I can say first hand that RCI did a great job with the ship design, and the ship does not feel crowded at all. However, I cannot even imagine cramming 4000 more people into an even smaller space. That sounds like Carnival’s business plan.  

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I prefer smaller ships, but we did give Allure of the Seas a shot. With 6,000 passengers onboard, I was expecting absolute chaos, but it was far from it. In fact it felt less crowded than ships I’ve sailed on that carry 1/3 as many passengers. Oasis class ships were conceived to handle that many passengers. From the moment you arrive in the cruise terminal, passengers are divided based on their stateroom location, using multiple gangways to board.
 

Once onboard, the ship is divided in “neighborhoods”, each with its own restaurants, entertainment, etc. Contrary to smaller, more traditional ships, things on these big ships are de-centralized so passengers are spread out. There were times when I found myself walking around and feeling as if I had the ship all to myself because there weren’t any crowds. Going ashore was simple as well, with multiple gangways. 
 

With all of that said, a big ship like that is definitely not for everyone. It felt less like a cruise and more like taking a vacation at a big resort on land. Even though we thoroughly enjoyed it and it proved to be much better than I expected, I’m not rushing to sail on an Oasis class ship again. Glad I experienced it, but not what I would select repeatedly for a cruise vacation. 

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6 hours ago, ski ww said:

I wouldn't cruise on one of those if it was free.  Think of what it will be like when they dock in some small Caribbean island ports & you dock next to it.. 

A few years ago, I was working on HAL’s Noordam. We came into into St Thomas one morning and pulled up to the Sub Base Pier. At the same time, one of Royal Caribbean’s mega ships pulled up to the other side of the pier. We both lowered our gangways at the same time. Noordam had one gangway; RCCL had 8 double gangways. In 15 minutes, the RCCL ship was empty. Noordam had passengers lined up the length of the ship to exit via our single gangway. We finally got them off the ship after 90 minutes.

At the end of the day, the 5,000+ RCCL pax were back onboard and the ship sailed away on time. Noordam had a line all the way to the end of the pier to get back onboard. We had to delay sailing by one hour to get everyone back onboard.

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