Get rid of the buffets already!...

[jsn55]

17 hours ago, clo said:

Good heavens, after all these posts do you still not understand that a "buffet" and a "cafeteria" are not the same thing? And if you can have everything served to you that you would want t serve yourself, what IS the problem?

This thread is becoming so inane that I need to find out how to stop following it.  

[ilikeanswers]

3 minutes ago, jsn55 said:

This thread is becoming so inane that I need to find out how to stop following it.  

 

Hope this helps, top of the page click on Following and you will be able to take your name of the list😉:

 

[MSUjohn]

On 6/23/2020 at 8:08 AM, pacruise804 said:

I'm sorry you caught it and hope you have recovered. 

 

Was everyone else wearing masks or were only the employees?  My understanding is the n95 protect the wearer (and the ones with valves do not protect others if the wearer is positive) while cloth masks provide some measure of protection for others but minimal if any for the wearer.

 

everyone. the state when this broke out put inmates at a different prison(S?) to work making masks out of existing stocks of prisoner uniforms. all staff and prisoners received two.

 

like i said i caught covid19, bugt it was mild for me. i also NEVER ran a temp, so much for screening. 

[clo]

4 hours ago, navybankerteacher said:

Words work better when they have meanings.  A buffet is generally and widely held to be  a self-service eating facility.   You might not like the mass- feeding images conjured by the term “cafeteria” :   OK , I do not like it either - but when the food is served by attendants, the place is not a buffet.  Let’s come up with an acceptable term which does not belie what is being discussed.

 

 Those who insist upon calling a place where your food is served a “buffet” remind me of those who unblinkingly referred to the Russian military-occupied,  military dictatorship of East Germany as the “Democratic Republic of Germany”

On Oceania it's called Terrace Cafe.  In addition to cafeteria/buffet type stations there's also the area where you can get cooked to order food, like lobster, shrimp, lamb chops. Except for dinners at specialties we ate all our meals at the Terrace Cafe. It was especially nice to eat out on the aft deck.

 

Edited June 25, 2020 by clo

[LHT28]

OMG

some people have been cooped up too long  🤣

[Shmoo here]

A buffet you can select food and return for more, regardless of whether you serve yourself, or someone serves you.

 

A cafeteria, you go through the line once, are usually served, and pay for your meal before sitting down.

 

 

[ontheweb]

5 hours ago, navybankerteacher said:

Words work better when they have meanings.  A buffet is generally and widely held to be  a self-service eating facility.   You might not like the mass- feeding images conjured by the term “cafeteria” :   OK , I do not like it either - but when the food is served by attendants, the place is not a buffet.  Let’s come up with an acceptable term which does not belie what is being discussed.

 

 Those who insist upon calling a place where your food is served a “buffet” remind me of those who unblinkingly referred to the Russian military-occupied,  military dictatorship of East Germany as the “Democratic Republic of Germany”

"Democratic Republic of Germany"---good one. How about "United States of America" at a time when states are slapping quarantines on citizens of other states and the states are probably less united than any other time in our history except the Civil War era and the years leading up to that war. Every bill in both houses of congress pass or fail on straight party lines, and you call that UNITED.

 

But, lets bring it back to eating places on cruise ships. In addition to the buffet with or without servers, we would have ANY Time (or YOUR Time dining or whatever the particular line wants to call it) dining. Suppose I wanted to have a sit down dinner at 3 PM or 1AM. They would not allow it even though they say ANY Time. So would you have to call it a cafeteria people demand that they now call it LIMITED Time Dining?

[ontheweb]

10 minutes ago, Shmoo here said:

A buffet you can select food and return for more, regardless of whether you serve yourself, or someone serves you.

 

A cafeteria, you go through the line once, are usually served, and pay for your meal before sitting down.

 

 

Ah, someone actually gets the concept.

[donaldsc]

You have to be kidding w this post and we are already up to 18 posts not counting mine.  Might I remind you of a quote from Shakespeare - "a rose by any other name is still a rose".

 

DON

[ontheweb]

16 hours ago, ontheweb said:

I don't care; I'm still going to call it a buffet as opposed to the dining rooms.😘😘

Thank you Mammajamma for the like.

 

But, Clo, I do not understand the laugh. See the thread I started on a buffet with servers is still a buffet, not a cafeteria. I am serious about this. We have cruised with servers in the buffet and other than DW gets more salad than she would take herself have had no problems. I would be fine if all ships in the future had this concept. But a cafeteria instead of the buffet would be a deal breaker for me for a cruise.

 

And having listened to Tom Petty in the car this morning on the way to a rail trail hike for almost an hour and a half, I WILL STAND MY GROUND, I WON'T BACK DOWN. For some people masks will be a deal breaker, for me a cafeteria would be.

[calliopecruiser]

14 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

"Democratic Republic of Germany"---good one.

Well, it was the official name of the country.  Just like the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" is the official name of North Korea, and the "Lao People's Democratic Republic" is the official name of Laos.  Even the short lived communist rule of Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge was called "Democratic Kampuchea".......generally speaking, if you have to declare your democracy, you're not a democracy. 

 

At least with Vietnam -  the Socialist Republic of Vietnam - there's truth in advertising

[ontheweb]

10 minutes ago, calliopecruiser said:

Well, it was the official name of the country.  Just like the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" is the official name of North Korea, and the "Lao People's Democratic Republic" is the official name of Laos.  Even the short lived communist rule of Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge was called "Democratic Kampuchea".......generally speaking, if you have to declare your democracy, you're not a democracy. 

 

At least with Vietnam -  the Socialist Republic of Vietnam - there's truth in advertising

I realized that was the real name of the former East Germany; the gist of my post was that they were not the only ones not living up to their name. But you chose not to quote anything else from my post.

[calliopecruiser]

8 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

But you chose not to quote anything else from my post.

Yes, but what's your point?

My post was not to correct you, but to expand with other examples.

[lenquixote66]

6 hours ago, ontheweb said:

I thought I would start a new thread since the buffet thread is approaching 800 posts.

 

When we were on the Maasdam with a buffet with servers, no one called it a cafeteria. There was no listing for cafeteria hours. When DW and I discussed what nights we would eat in the buffet instead of the dining room (she is tired of people serving her and how long it takes), the word cafeteria never came up. When she was on a lounge after swimming and wanted some decaf and maybe something small to eat, she would ask me to go to the buffet to get it for her, not the cafeteria.

 

Will I ever refer to the buffet as a cafeteria? No, never. I WON'T BACK DOWN. (Tom Petty)

 

As for those ANNOYING political correct posters who insist on using the term cafeteria, LET IT BE LET IT BE. (the Beatles)

 

If you keep insisting on calling it a cafeteria, I may have to change from WAIT A MINUTE CHESTER, I'M A PEACEFUL MAN (the Band) to a STREET FIGHTING MAN. (the Rolling Stones.)

 

As for how we somehow got from a poll get rid of the buffets already that overwhelmingly said keep them to replace them with a cafeteria, WHAT A LONG STRANGE TRIP IT'S BEEN. (the Grateful Dead) And I'll let the Grateful Dead have the last word on the subject.

Strictly by definition a cafeteria is not a buffet.When I was a kid living in Brooklyn every neighborhood had cafeterias .In 1961 a buffet opened,not the same .

Good music references,Woodstock.

[mom says]

Po ta to, po tah to. Found this on the interwebs; does this help?

 

"A buffet is all you can eat. You pay the cashier and then go select your food and go back for more food if you wish… ... A cafeteria is a line of different foods, usually with each item individually priced (not always, but often) or you are limited to certain selections unless you want to pay extra for additional items."

[chipmaster]

On 6/25/2020 at 1:32 PM, mom says said:

Po ta to, po tah to. Found this on the interwebs; does this help?

 

"A buffet is all you can eat. You pay the cashier and then go select your food and go back for more food if you wish… ... A cafeteria is a line of different foods, usually with each item individually priced (not always, but often) or you are limited to certain selections unless you want to pay extra for additional items."

 

By definition I've paid for all my meals so even the sit down dinner is a buffet, LOL

[navybankerteacher]

On 6/25/2020 at 4:32 PM, mom says said:

Po ta to, po tah to. Found this on the interwebs; does this help?

 

"A buffet is all you can eat. You pay the cashier and then go select your food and go back for more food if you wish… ... A cafeteria is a line of different foods, usually with each item individually priced (not always, but often) or you are limited to certain selections unless you want to pay extra for additional items."

No - a buffet is really a  FORMAT, where you generally serve yourself - perhaps as a guest at someone’s house and the food is laid out on the dining room table with a stack of plates and utensils;  you take a plate, load it with the items you want, then go find a place to sit and eat - possibly in the same room, or another room, or maybe out on a deck or patio.

[c-boy]

geez all we need now is for someone to throw pot luck into the conversation , ..uh wait , oh NOooooo 

Edited June 27, 2020 by c-boy

[ilikeanswers]

You know what lets all eat room service and be done with it😜. 

[ldubs]

2 hours ago, c-boy said:

geez all we need now is for someone to throw pot luck into the conversation , ..uh wait , oh NOooooo 

 

Smorgasbord!  Yes!  That's the answer -- Smorgasbord!

 

Thank you Sweden!  

 

 

[RonOhio]

2 hours ago, c-boy said:

geez all we need now is for someone to throw pot luck into the conversation , ..uh wait , oh NOooooo 

Potluck sounds like a great idea but there’s always the family that brings tuna salad and stinks the place up.

[getting older slowly]

3 hours ago, ldubs said:

 

Smorgasbord!  Yes!  That's the answer -- Smorgasbord!

 

Thank you Sweden!  

 

 

That is great... just found something in Utah        Chuck-a-rama.......

 

( in Australia chuck means to throw up  .... OMG )   lol

 

Some great names....

 

another one    The Feed Lot  perfect after 30 days

 

Cheers with popcorn   Don

[AF-1]

Buffets will most likely remain;  just a different format;  there is a lot of room to sit passengers,; so use of this area for mass feeding is something the cruise lines will look at and make a few changes. 

[LizzieB86]

You can't have everyone in a food court. Can you say capsize? Too much weight in one place is a no no.

[c-boy]

19 minutes ago, LizzieB86 said:

You can't have everyone in a food court. Can you say capsize? Too much weight in one place is a no no.

what a minute 😕 are you saying we're phat ?