P&O Cruisers - What are things like where YOU are?

[terrierjohn]

3 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said:

I’m afraid you’re missing the point entirely. I’m not suggesting anything’s acceptable or unacceptable - simply that if it can pass to and from mink, why not other animals?

I guess transmission between species is fairly rare, maybe mink once flew, like bats!!!!

[kalos]

18 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said:

I’m afraid you’re missing the point entirely. I’m not suggesting anything’s acceptable or unacceptable - simply that if it can pass to and from mink, why not other animals?

 

Harry animals can carry various strains of covid we have never caught yet.

Covid -19 in a few cases can be spread to humans but not as readily as human to human .

Same as we dont quake in our boots if our Tiddles decides to give Felix the cat flu .

 

This is a good read   https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/animals.html

Edited November 9, 2020 by kalos

[kalos]

19 minutes ago, terrierjohn said:

I do hope they warm it up to room temperature before they give you an injection, otherwise we will all end up with frozen arms.

 

I had a frozen shoulder once ..Not nice 

[brian1]

48 minutes ago, zap99 said:

Have you replaced it with something else ,or just decided to go without? 🤔

My OH is knitting one but she's run out of wool.

[brian1]

31 minutes ago, terrierjohn said:

I guess transmission between species is fairly rare, maybe mink once flew, like bats!!!!

Yeah,why not,there's flying squirrels.Pigs might fly one day.Darwin would've known.

[Josy1953]

We are doing a little dance of joy at the thought that there is finally a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel.  My afternoon and evening are looking busy now I will start looking for cruises to book for autumn / winter next year after I have watched Countdown. 😀😀

[zap99]

4 hours ago, brian1 said:

I think Queens Grill Cunarders are exempt.M&S had loads of turkeys left over last year,they were more or less giving them away after Christmas.Cheers,bro.

Are you sure the toffs eat mink?. I thought they just wore it on formal night. I have never seen mink on sale in the M&S food hall. Perhaps only available in the Northern stores.😁

[brian1]

14 minutes ago, zap99 said:

Are you sure the toffs eat mink?. I thought they just wore it on formal night. I have never seen mink on sale in the M&S food hall. Perhaps only available in the Northern stores.😁

You're thinking of ferrets.

[pete14]

16 minutes ago, zap99 said:

Are you sure the toffs eat mink?. I thought they just wore it on formal night. I have never seen mink on sale in the M&S food hall. Perhaps only available in the Northern stores.😁

Only have mink in a sauce with lamb and new potatoes. Not the same as trebor extra strong minks though. 😇

[kalos]

19 minutes ago, zap99 said:

Are you sure the toffs eat mink?. I thought they just wore it on formal night. I have never seen mink on sale in the M&S food hall. Perhaps only available in the Northern stores.😁

 

Maybe they misread ... Made In Minsk  not made of mink 

[kalos]

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[zap99]

22 minutes ago, pete14 said:

Only have mink in a sauce with lamb and new potatoes. Not the same as trebor extra strong minks though. 😇

Is M&S mink and stoat?🤣

[AnnieC]

3 hours ago, Harry Peterson said:

But on the bright side:

 

The first effective coronavirus vaccine can prevent more than 90% of people from getting Covid-19, a preliminary analysis shows.

 

The developers - Pfizer and BioNTech - described it as a "great day for science and humanity".

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54873105

 

 

Don't know if you're immunosuppressed, Harry, but it looks like it may be a live vaccine and thus not suitable for those who are. Haven't got a link, but it's coming up on IBD forums.

[Harry Peterson]

10 minutes ago, AnnieC said:

Don't know if you're immunosuppressed, Harry, but it looks like it may be a live vaccine and thus not suitable for those who are. Haven't got a link, but it's coming up on IBD forums.

Thanks very much Annie - I am, and I was in the process of researching that very point! 

 

If it is a live vaccine it's not something that's going to help me, and more importantly my wife (because she's having to shield too).

 

Still other options though, and for the vast majority of people it will be a life changer.  It should also increase substantially the chances of a safe herd immunity, without all the deaths.

[AnnieC]

5 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said:

Thanks very much Annie - I am, and I was in the process of researching that very point! 

 

If it is a live vaccine it's not something that's going to help me, and more importantly my wife (because she's having to shield too).

 

Still other options though, and for the vast majority of people it will be a life changer.  It should also increase substantially the chances of a safe herd immunity, without all the deaths.

Not from a reliable source, but the best I can find at the moment. If correct, no good for my daughter either, but I share your positive comments.

[Harry Peterson]

9 minutes ago, AnnieC said:

Not from a reliable source, but the best I can find at the moment. If correct, no good for my daughter either, but I share your positive comments.

Thanks, Annie - I'll share any further information I get once I've managed to get it from a reliable source. 

[AnnieC]

3 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said:

Thanks, Annie - I'll share any further information I get once I've managed to get it from a reliable source. 

Many thanks, Harry; I have great faith in your ability to hunt out a reliable source.🙂

[ann141]

2 hours ago, AnnieC said:

Don't know if you're immunosuppressed, Harry, but it looks like it may be a live vaccine and thus not suitable for those who are. Haven't got a link, but it's coming up on IBD forums.

I'm immunosuppressed too so disappointing for me but good news for others

[Harry Peterson]

Having done a bit of preliminary research,  I'm starting to think the Pfizer vaccine being talked about may well be OK for those with compromised immune systems. 

 

I'm certainly no expert, but this is a mRNA vaccine, and appears for that reason not to be live.

 

Time will tell, but I'm more optimistic now than earlier today.

 

 

https://www.cslbehring.com/vita/2020/covid19-vaccines-and-primary-immunodeficiency

 

 

COVID-19 Vaccines and Primary Immunodeficiency

 

 

"But one of the most-discussed vaccine candidates uses mRNA, which would potentially be suitable for immune-deficient patients, she said. Vaccines that rely on DNA also could be appropriate for PI patients. Both are new vaccine technologies, Sullivan said."

 

Harry

 

[ann141]

31 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said:

Having done a bit of preliminary research,  I'm starting to think the Pfizer vaccine being talked about may well be OK for those with compromised immune systems. 

 

I'm certainly no expert, but this is a mRNA vaccine, and appears for that reason not to be live.

 

Time will tell, but I'm more optimistic now than earlier today.

 

 

https://www.cslbehring.com/vita/2020/covid19-vaccines-and-primary-immunodeficiency

 

 

COVID-19 Vaccines and Primary Immunodeficiency

 

 

"But one of the most-discussed vaccine candidates uses mRNA, which would potentially be suitable for immune-deficient patients, she said. Vaccines that rely on DNA also could be appropriate for PI patients. Both are new vaccine technologies, Sullivan said."

 

Harry

 

Thats encouraging.Thank you for the link

[AnnieC]

7 hours ago, Harry Peterson said:

Having done a bit of preliminary research,  I'm starting to think the Pfizer vaccine being talked about may well be OK for those with compromised immune systems. 

 

I'm certainly no expert, but this is a mRNA vaccine, and appears for that reason not to be live.

 

Time will tell, but I'm more optimistic now than earlier today.

 

 

https://www.cslbehring.com/vita/2020/covid19-vaccines-and-primary-immunodeficiency

 

 

COVID-19 Vaccines and Primary Immunodeficiency

 

 

"But one of the most-discussed vaccine candidates uses mRNA, which would potentially be suitable for immune-deficient patients, she said. Vaccines that rely on DNA also could be appropriate for PI patients. Both are new vaccine technologies, Sullivan said."

 

Harry

 

Thanks, Harry - well done. I'd discovered it was an mRNA vaccine, but thereafter lost the plot. Cautiously optimistic🙂

[davecttr]

Hopefully this vaccine works as promised 🤞

 

Meanwhile when would it be my turn to get it? 10 million doses delivered this year with 2 doses per person means unlikely anyone under 75 years of age will be eligible unless they are in specialist categories. There are 5.7 million people in the UK aged 75 or over as of 2019. I am 70 next spring - 9.02 million are 70 and over. The 40 million doses ordered treats 20 million people and there are 20.56 million people aged 55 and over. To vaccinate everyone over 50 would need another 10 million doses to be ordered.

 

I have 2 identical cruises booked on Iona next year, one in May and one in late September. With the May cruise final payment due in February I think I will be cancelling that one as the vaccine may not be available until spring/summer.

 

finally, if I do catch COVID, what are my chances of dying 😨 have the death rates dropped since spring? I tried an online search but no results 😕

 

finally finally again - I see the orange one has tweeted that the vaccine announcement was deliberately delayed to hurt his election chances 😉

[Eddie99]

Lot’s of questions!

The answer, for now, for the first ones, seems to be “We’ll see”

 

Here’s a website to help you work out your personal covid risk.  It’s a few months old, so as treatments have improved considerably, the situation,and your chances of survival, are improved

https://your-covid-19-risk.com/

[Angel57]

The best thing about the announcement yesterday re the vaccine is that we now have hope.......

[grapau27]

10 hours ago, Harry Peterson said:

Having done a bit of preliminary research,  I'm starting to think the Pfizer vaccine being talked about may well be OK for those with compromised immune systems. 

 

I'm certainly no expert, but this is a mRNA vaccine, and appears for that reason not to be live.

 

Time will tell, but I'm more optimistic now than earlier today.

 

 

https://www.cslbehring.com/vita/2020/covid19-vaccines-and-primary-immunodeficiency

 

 

COVID-19 Vaccines and Primary Immunodeficiency

 

 

"But one of the most-discussed vaccine candidates uses mRNA, which would potentially be suitable for immune-deficient patients, she said. Vaccines that rely on DNA also could be appropriate for PI patients. Both are new vaccine technologies, Sullivan said."

 

Harry

 

That's great news for you Harry and anyone unfortunately in a similar position with compromised immune systems.

Graham.