Will You cancel Your Upcoming Cruises if Royal Caribbean Doesn't Require Vaccinations

[untailored bostonian]

21 hours ago, cruiserking said:

Thoroughly disgusted by Royal Caribbean's latest decision not to require vaccinations. Just curious how many people Royal can expect to cancel their cruises in the near future if the this dangerous policy stays in place. 

 

Jonathan

I have not read the full thread, so excuse any overlap.

 

Imnho and based off what I saw on a YT video of MCS protocols, I expect mandatory for ALL cruisers contact tracing bracelets that also act as a touchless cruise cards. I would expect then to come in two colors, vacinated, unvacinated. 

 

I then would expect mandated mask use for unvacinated cruiser. I would hope repeated violation would result in being removed at the next port, or at least mandated quarentine in you cabin. There may be required pre-bording RCL covid testing and repeated covid testing for unvacinated cruisers.

 

I also expect that there would be certian activities banned for unvacinated cruisers. Specialty dining. Shows, or at least being seated in an unvacinated section. Casino. Certain enclosed bars or eating venues.

 

Todate RCL says the "expect" cruisers will be 95% fully vacinated.

Edited June 6, 2021 by untailored bostonian
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[MommaBear55]

28 minutes ago, FOXTROT said:

Do your research & prove me wrong. As long as it is an experimental drug, it is illegal to require people to get it. If the vaccines are so good, what difference does it make if I have it or not? 

Actually, it's not experimental, it's authorized under emergency authorization.  Many colleges, for instance, are requiring the vaccine to be on campus in the Fall.

https://www.google.com/search?q=can+colleges+require+covid+vaccine&oq=can+colleges+rewuirr&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i13l4.7415j0j7&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#ip=1

[harkinmr]

1 minute ago, untailored bostonian said:

 

Todate RCL says the "expect" cruisers will be 95% fully vacinated.

Yes, and I expect to win the lottery this week. 😉

[untailored bostonian]

43 minutes ago, FOXTROT said:

Do your research & prove me wrong. As long as it is an experimental drug, it is illegal to require people to get it. If the vaccines are so good, what difference does it make if I have it or not? 

OMG!  A real Q-Brain commitment.

 

These vaccines are not a drug.

 

These vaccines are not unproven. Quite the opposite they have been rigorously studied and PROVEN safe ad effective.

 

There are cicles of people in this country sadly misinformed by the disinformation generated by the likes of the followers of QAnon and the delusional politicians of a once great party.

 

"Prove me wrong"?  I don't think you know enough science to know the truth and just believe the lies of a Carlson or ONA.

Edited June 6, 2021 by untailored bostonian
I hate auto spell check!

[untailored bostonian]

10 minutes ago, harkinmr said:

Yes, and I expect to win the lottery this week. 😉

I know. 😆  There is some qualifications by age, but all unvcinated including children will be wearing masks all cruise.

 

The contact tracing bracelets will set off the anti vaxers too.

[shutterbug63]

In answer to the original question of  this thread - yes, I'd cancel if I could.  But I have FCC's that will expire in September, 2022, and most likely will not be able to sail in the summer of 2022.  We picked the January, 2022, date, because of the pricing and the fact that the date worked.

 

We are sitting tight right now and waiting to see what happens since we can't get a refund at this point. It may be a moot point, though. If RCCL sailings go out with no vaccine requirements and there's Covid outbreaks on board which I think is more likely under those conditions, who knows what will happen with cruises after that.

[islandchicklet]

16 hours ago, DrVegas said:

 

 

Personally, I’m looking forward to seeing COVID deniers/anti-vaxxers come down with COVID 

What a sad, small person you are! 

[A&L_Ont]

1 minute ago, pinnacleking2021 said:

IMAGINE YOU ARE VACCINATED AND YOUR ABOUT TO BOARD THE SHIP AND YOU TEST POSITIVE FOR COVID EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE NO SYMPTOMS..NIGHTMARE

 

SAY NO TO ANY TESTING ON CRUISES GET RID OF MASK RULES VACCINE REQUIREMENTS AND TESTING

 

I AM VACCINATED BUT I AM AGAISNT FORCING PEOPLE TO GET THE VACCINE I AM AGAISNT TESTING AND I AM VERY MUCH AGAISNT MASK WEARING 

Why the yelling?  It isn’t going to change peoples opinions.

[jean87510]

1 hour ago, Jimbo said:

Why do people keep continuing to say about what other ships are doing in other parts of the world.............We are talking about American Passengers........you know the ones that butt inline, the ones that that try to beat the system, the ones that don't listen to directions, the ones that don't like to be told what they can and can not do on a cruise........you know the ones at Customer Relation bitching and moaning about any little thing.........

Jeeze, stop the thing, what other ships are doing with non american people onboard.

wow.  You need to go visit other countries other then their cruise ports.  There are rude people everywhere. 

 

That being said, based on the last couple of weeks of email news, it is my opinion that cruise lines will not necessarily follow protocols used in Asia or Europe in the US.  Again, we will have to see as the US has not started sailing yet. 

[firefly333]

10 minutes ago, harkinmr said:

You have a very positive attitude firefly.  I really do wish you the best on your cruises and I hope you'll let us know your experiences.

 

I'm not sure it is "doom and gloom", but more a concern about the unknown and an investment of time and money that may result in an unexpectedly unsatisfactory experience.  The cruising restart is filled with stressors so I think we have to give people a little freedom to worry.

 

I'm not as daring a soul as you I guess, so I am booking Celebrity Edge for September where I can be more sure of the vaccine mandate and hopefully a "protocol free" cruise.  Again, enjoy your sailings!

Does seem a little doom and gloom here. My friends said I was always a daredevil. Maybe that's part of it. 

 

I moved cruise parking a and time to sept, and I booked a suite that sleeps 6 with a beach view last December because I was maybe too optimistic. Was a deal that I cant book now, no suites left, not that I need one, I just wanted the ocean view and last dec was cheap. So I guess I'll go enjoy the hotel suite across from the beach and hoping my cruise goes. 

 

Hey no one loves uncertainty.. but worry never helped anything my mom says. I'm the type I go everywhere with a book. So my idea of a quiet cruise works better than if I was a family I admit. 

 

If I let worry stop me I wouldnt have done half the things I've done in life. I flipped houses early 70s and was told women dont do this. ..and so on. If I cant change something I learn how to get around obstacles. I dont see the reason to rail against protocols that I cant change.

 

Enjoy celebrity. I did celebrity to hawaii. Nice. Lived Hawaii for 10 years as the free spirit I am.

[untailored bostonian]

1 hour ago, Jimbo said:

I think it's a given, unvaccinated cruise's are going to require masks at time's in and around the ship during certain times.

I think all cruisers will be required to wear contact tracing bracelets that also act as your contact less cruise card. A recent YT video of a cruise on the MSC Virtusos had to wear them.

 

If so I would expect color coding that shows you vaccination status.

 

Also I expect pre-bording dockside testing for those unable to prove vaccination status, plus follow up testing onboard.

[crzndeb]

31 minutes ago, firefly333 said:

And if we have a outbreak and a few days added on I'll be heartbroken when they add more loyalty pts. Bring it on! Ha.

 

I'm retired so all these people worried about getting quarantined on the ship .. as long as I get more loyalty pts, sign me up! I for sure will bring extra books. Does chops deliver? If any think they are scaring me, I'm like ...hey can I go sooner, where do I sign ... I gave in and booked oct yesterday on carnival including cheers. It's a sacrifice I admit to go with the drink pkg, but I decided I was just the person to do it, and my ta added cheers to my sept date. Bring it on. I'm sooo ready.

 

What's the deal with all this doom and gloom? 

I’m with you! I travel solo for a reason. I like doing my own thing, alone. I probably am around more people for an extended period of time in Costco or Trader Joe’s. Since the majority of my cruises are 10+ days, I bring plenty of things to do. The first day, I will usually look around the ship for the quiet spots. I’m not a sun or heat person, so if it’s a tropical climate, the pool is out.

My first cruise back isn’t until next March, but I haven’t ruled out booking the Panorama or Navigator at the end of the year. And I’m also vaccinated.

 

Cheers 🍸

[toocruisin2]

55 minutes ago, TheHawk1 said:

When you're in a store or a restaurant, you're there for like an hour and you can keep your distance from others if you choose?  Whereas a cruise ship is 7@24 in a confined space, for up to a week, with complete strangers.  Do you think you can really stay six feet apart from other cruisers in an elevator or a bar or that you're not breathing re-circulated air in a restaurant or a theatre on a ship?

 

Going on a cruise anywhere in the next year will be a big leap of faith that all the scientists have everything figured out.  It's not making it any easier when cruise lines want to put profits or politics above their customers' safety.

Okay so this is a poll, I stated my opinion. I’m not asking you not to be worried, I said I’m not worried, and I’m not worried. I trust the data that says vaccinated people have about a 5% chance of getting Covid, and no chance of serious illness requiring hospitalization. 

 

For the most part I like the strangers on a cruise ship better than the ones at Kroger’s. 😉 

 

I don’t know how things are by you, but here, nobody is wearing masks unless a facility specifically requires it, and we’ve been closer than six feet for months now. 

 

Anyone concerned about the risks of cruising can stay home; I got the vaccine so that I don’t need to. I’m sailing baby! 

 

[untailored bostonian]

12 minutes ago, pinnacleking2021 said:

IMAGINE YOU ARE VACCINATED AND YOUR ABOUT TO BOARD THE SHIP AND YOU TEST POSITIVE FOR COVID EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE NO SYMPTOMS..NIGHTMARE

 

SAY NO TO ANY TESTING ON CRUISES GET RID OF MASK RULES VACCINE REQUIREMENTS AND TESTING

 

I AM VACCINATED BUT I AM AGAISNT FORCING PEOPLE TO GET THE VACCINE I AM AGAISNT TESTING AND I AM VERY MUCH AGAISNT MASK WEARING 

Imnho.

 

I think only unvaccinated cruisers will be tested dockside because of the logistics of boarding on time.  I also expect the unvaccinated to get retested at least once more.

 

Every cruise will have covid cases. Contact tracing may require you to quarantine in your cabin even if you have been vacinated.

 

There is 4 to 6 weeks before we know all the new Cruise Covid Protocols.

[forgotmyCCname]

1 hour ago, FOXTROT said:

It is illegal to require anyone to get an experimental drug. You can start by researching the Nuremburg Code & then try various government laws. Then start researching various laws against HIPPA & Disability Acts. The Chinese Virus vaccines are still experimental & schools can require them but they will loose when challenged.

1. And no one is forcing anyone to cruise. A cruise is voluntary, last I heard.

2. A university certainly can require a vaccine and they will win in court ; the requirement for meningitis vaccines, for example, has been challenged and the challenge failed. 
3. I'm not sure that many people spouting "HIPPA" in these boards have actually had experience with it or an understanding of its use as well as who has to abide by HIPPA.

4. Enjoy your cruise or land-based vacation.

 

[harkinmr]

37 minutes ago, pinnacleking2021 said:

even though I am vaccinated I think cruise lines should not do testing, require masks and should not require vaccines.. we don't have to be vaccinated to jump on a plane and there is no social distancing on a plane so why are the cruise lines being treated SO unfairly. if your vaccinated your protected right? so if someone is not vaccinated why is that a concern to you if YOUR protected? and its none of YOUR business. plus u can still get covid if u have the vaccine... kids 12 and under who don't need to get the vaccine can also get covid and spread it so get rid of all these silly pointless rules update the cruise contract travel at YOUR own risk or stay home end of story ENOUGH! 

 

10 minutes ago, pinnacleking2021 said:

IMAGINE YOU ARE VACCINATED AND YOUR ABOUT TO BOARD THE SHIP AND YOU TEST POSITIVE FOR COVID EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE NO SYMPTOMS..NIGHTMARE

 

SAY NO TO ANY TESTING ON CRUISES GET RID OF MASK RULES VACCINE REQUIREMENTS AND TESTING

 

I AM VACCINATED BUT I AM AGAISNT FORCING PEOPLE TO GET THE VACCINE I AM AGAISNT TESTING AND I AM VERY MUCH AGAISNT MASK WEARING 

You have been saying versions of the same thing for a couple of days now.  I think everyone understands what you think, but repeating a mantra and then YELLING the mantra is not going to get the cruise line to listen to you or to change their policies, or get anyone else on here to change their minds.  It is like spitting into the wind. The only thing you can do is sail on a fully vaccinated ship on a line that chooses to go that route, which is what a lot of people are going to do it seems.  Otherwise, their ship, their rules.  Does it make it right or fair or a good decision?  Sure as h*** not, but if enough people cancel or go elsewhere maybe RCI will get the message.

8 minutes ago, A&L_Ont said:

Why the yelling?  It isn’t going to change peoples opinions.

Exactly!!

[forgotmyCCname]

9 minutes ago, untailored bostonian said:

Imnho.

 

I think only unvaccinated cruisers will be tested dockside because of the logistics of boarding on time.  I also expect the unvaccinated to get retested at least once more.

 

Every cruise will have covid cases. Contact tracing may require you to quarantine in your cabin even if you have been vacinated.

 

There is 4 to 6 weeks before we know all the new Cruise Covid Protocols.

When I was dealing with NCL they required a test prior to boarding as well as proof of vaccine; as we were to be cruising out of Jamaica we would also receive a test on board 

3 days prior to the end of the cruise. This would be at NCL expense.

 

It sounds like a reasonable plan. One of my college kids had Covid tests sent to him at home prior to the start of the semester. 

Edited June 6, 2021 by forgotmyCCname

[untailored bostonian]

10 minutes ago, forgotmyCCname said:

When I was dealing with NCL they required a test prior to boarding as well as proof of vaccine; as we were to be cruising out of Jamaica we would also receive a test on board 

3 days prior to the end of the cruise. This would be at NCL expense.

 

It sounds like a reasonable plan. One of my college kids had Covid tests sent to him at home prior to the start of the semester. 

I mentioned an MSC cruise on YT and they may have required a precruise test, but one of the YT got tested dockside.

 

We don't know what covid protocols will be required by the CDC and what additional protocols a cruise line will impose.  But I don't think the unvacinated cruisers are going to be happy cruisers.

[Demongear]

With this poll at the top of the page being a small but experienced slice of cruisers I wonder if RCCL is aware of the percentages to the 2 answers. If the reversal of their vaccination stance is only applicable in Florida and Texas because of the states issues with the original rules then Royal needs to make a statement. There are other ports available to cruise from so let the people know what your plans are so there need not having to decipher and read between the lines of a vague an open ended previous statement that as widely reported on. That is why people jump to conclusions. If other states are going to follow the CDC guidelines that Royal agreed to with percentages of vaccinated  in order to sail then make it known. 

[RoyalC]

7 minutes ago, Demongear said:

With this poll at the top of the page being a small but experienced slice of cruisers I wonder if RCCL is aware of the percentages to the 2 answers. If the reversal of their vaccination stance is only applicable in Florida and Texas because of the states issues with the original rules then Royal needs to make a statement. There are other ports available to cruise from so let the people know what your plans are so there need not having to decipher and read between the lines of a vague an open ended previous statement that as widely reported on. That is why people jump to conclusions. If other states are going to follow the CDC guidelines that Royal agreed to with percentages of vaccinated  in order to sail then make it known. 

Except a poll on CC is far from scientific. People will fill the ships in FL- guaranteed.

[Margaretealexander]

17 hours ago, cindivan said:

Has there ever been a quarantine/ship not allowed into ports because of norovirus?

My thoughts too. Who doesn’t book a cruise in fear of a norovirus outbreak?

Its not deadly, but sure could ruin a cruise. 

[lr657]

1 hour ago, firefly333 said:

I've posted many times that whatever the rules are I will follow them ... unlike many others who plan on cancelling because unlike me they wouldnt follow the rules if they dont like them.

 

We are vaccinated and follow the rules. We wouldn't cancel because we don't like the rules, we would cancel because those rules wouldn't be necessary on a ship where all eligible would be vaccinated. We will sail on a vaccinated ship with no required masking requirement and other restrictions due to unvaccinated passengers for a much better cruise vacation.  That's our choice. Big difference. 

 

[Margaretealexander]

1 hour ago, untailored bostonian said:

I have not read the full thread, so excuse any overlap.

 

Imnho and based off what I saw on a YT video of MCS protocols, I expect mandatory for ALL cruisers contact tracing bracelets that also act as a touchless cruise cards. I would expect then to come in two colors, vacinated, unvacinated. 

 

I then would expect mandated mask use for unvacinated cruiser. I would hope repeated violation would result in being removed at the next port, or at least mandated quarentine in you cabin. There may be required pre-bording RCL covid testing and repeated covid testing for unvacinated cruisers.

 

I also expect that there would be certian activities banned for unvacinated cruisers. Specialty dining. Shows, or at least being seated in an unvacinated section. Casino. Certain enclosed bars or eating venues.

 

Todate RCL says the "expect" cruisers will be 95% fully vacinated.

Sounds like discrimination and a lawsuit waiting to happen. Just saying….

[bucfan2]

8 minutes ago, Margaretealexander said:

My thoughts too. Who doesn’t book a cruise in fear of a norovirus outbreak?

Its not deadly, but sure could ruin a cruise. 

Wow...if you're booking in fear (and think others may as well), I guess I'm scared for you.

[Margaretealexander]

1 minute ago, bucfan2 said:

Wow...if you're booking in fear (and think others may as well), I guess I'm scared for you.

Whoops… typo. What I meant to say was I don’t not book a cruise in fear of noroviris. I book anyway!