missholly24 Posted April 10, 2023 #1 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Please tell me thats a typo? 😫😫😫 Our HMC excursions aren’t showing up yet for our February 2024 cruise. I did a general search on Carnival website and they say “starting at $999” for the Villas!! That seems INSANE to me. I know they will probably still sell out but Carnival is totally giving the middle finger to the middle class. Technically I have no leg to stand on because they can do whatever they want but I still feel violated. 😂😡 Ive rented one each time we go to HMC and they are a great way to spend the day. The $649 that I paid last time seems more appropriate. I guess this is one way to get rid of my HMC obsession. 😛😛 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staceyglow Posted April 10, 2023 #2 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Why shouldn't Carnival have the right to charge any amount they want? It's not a charity. They are in business to make money. It is their duty to their stockholders Io maximize their revenue. A villa is a luxury item and they have a limited number of them. You don't need it to enjoy Half Moon Cay. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Thenagers Posted April 10, 2023 #3 Share Posted April 10, 2023 27 minutes ago, staceyglow said: Why shouldn't Carnival have the right to charge any amount they want? It's not a charity. They are in business to make money. It is their duty to their stockholders Io maximize their revenue. A villa is a luxury item and they have a limited number of them. You don't need it to enjoy Half Moon Cay. I think it is the huge price change? I rented one in 2018 for $400 ish per day. The cabanas were around 299? Both have increased dramatically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balcony bound Posted April 10, 2023 #4 Share Posted April 10, 2023 It is pricing many of us out now. We used to pay under $200 for a cabana and it kept creeping up. We had thought about one of the villas for an upcoming cruise but it doesn't make sense anymore. We will miss them. Will start booking other ports instead of HMC just to avoid feeling the loss LOL. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missholly24 Posted April 10, 2023 Author #5 Share Posted April 10, 2023 31 minutes ago, balcony bound said: It is pricing many of us out now. We used to pay under $200 for a cabana and it kept creeping up. We had thought about one of the villas for an upcoming cruise but it doesn't make sense anymore. We will miss them. Will start booking other ports instead of HMC just to avoid feeling the loss LOL. I agree. So funny Im doing the same thing. Western Caribbean next year! Least I’ll save some money this way. HMC itineraries are always highest. I’ll always have those awesome memories of the Villa days. Some of the best days of my life. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missholly24 Posted April 10, 2023 Author #6 Share Posted April 10, 2023 39 minutes ago, Thenagers said: I think it is the huge price change? I rented one in 2018 for $400 ish per day. The cabanas were around 299? Both have increased dramatically. Exactly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kona_wahine Posted April 10, 2023 #7 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I loved that free chair I sat in last time I was there. 🤣 12 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebucks Posted April 10, 2023 #8 Share Posted April 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Thenagers said: I think it is the huge price change? I rented one in 2018 for $400 ish per day. The cabanas were around 299? Both have increased dramatically. That's crazy. That's the only thing that has surged in price since 2018. The internet is a great place to demand your own pricing for unnecessary purchases. If you ran a business that people were willing to pay $1000 to sit in a hut, you'd price it out accordingly too. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyjjs Posted April 10, 2023 #9 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I paid $275 for a HMC cabana in March 2019. They want $699 for the same thing for my May sailing. Lol. Ok 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missholly24 Posted April 10, 2023 Author #10 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Joebucks said: That's crazy. That's the only thing that has surged in price since 2018. The internet is a great place to demand your own pricing for unnecessary purchases. If you ran a business that people were willing to pay $1000 to sit in a hut, you'd price it out accordingly too. Lol good thing its not a hut. Lol. Have you been to HMC? Half the purchases on vacation are “unnecessary”. And your statement is silly. TBH my cruise total hasn't gone up more than $400 since my 2018 price. The Villa price almost doubled in one yr. Thats my point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted April 10, 2023 #11 Share Posted April 10, 2023 As long as people are willing to pay, then they are priced right. This company is billions on the hole, mainly due to events brought down on them. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mz-s Posted April 10, 2023 #12 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Double it and see if they still sell out. They should charge whatever people are willing to pay. I eat the included hamburgers and sit on the included chairs. Each to their own. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted April 10, 2023 #13 Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, mz-s said: Double it and see if they still sell out. They should charge whatever people are willing to pay. I eat the included hamburgers and sit on the included chairs. Each to their own. Probably one of their best liked places to go in the Caribbean by their clients. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray98 Posted April 10, 2023 #14 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Free market. Something is worth what people will pay. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crooooze Posted April 10, 2023 #15 Share Posted April 10, 2023 This is where Carnival gets the money to give out all that shareholder OBC. 😂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyefrank100 Posted April 10, 2023 #16 Share Posted April 10, 2023 This isn't only a Carnival issue. We're booked on the Icon OTS and a cabana at Coco Cay is $1500 for the day. It's everywhere. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PrincessArlena'sDad Posted April 10, 2023 #17 Share Posted April 10, 2023 It's a lot of the excursions, as well. One we booked back in Nov has gone $25 per person. The other went up $10/person. Glad we booked it when we did! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsglow Posted April 10, 2023 #18 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I'd guess I'd argue that 'back in the day' Carnival was dramatically underpricing them leaving many dollars on the table. It's all Econ 101. Supply v demand. We've never considered getting one. A day at the beach on a nice free chair is a darn good day. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseguy56 Posted April 10, 2023 #19 Share Posted April 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Joebucks said: That's crazy. That's the only thing that has surged in price since 2018. Eggs, Gasoline, cars, cell phones all come to mind as having surged in price since 2018. But that said, yes, the hut pricing is ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted April 10, 2023 #20 Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 hours ago, missholly24 said: And your statement is silly. TBH my cruise total hasn't gone up more than $400 since my 2018 price. The Villa price almost doubled in one yr. Thats my point. Carnival doubled the price of bottle water overnight. I blame the people cruising on free or nearly free cabins for all of this. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staceyglow Posted April 10, 2023 #21 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: Carnival doubled the price of bottle water overnight. I blame the people cruising on free or nearly free cabins for all of this. I think they just hike prices every time someone complains on Cruise Critic. Notice the price hikes are mostly on optional items? That way they can even stick it to the complainers with free cruises. 😉 Edited April 10, 2023 by staceyglow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcearth Posted April 10, 2023 #22 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I have gotten villas 4 or 5 times in the past. They were a great investment at $499 split a few ways, and still pretty good at $599. I balked at $649 but still went ahead and rented (had others pitch in, so still thought value was ok). $999 would be a deal breaker for me, however. Here is my question - how do you define maximizing revenue? Even if the company still sold all of the Villas and Cabanas and the new rate, how many customers are alienated by the inflated pricing? What value does Carnival place on repeat business? What value do they place on the customer experience? I would argue that raising prices on optional items could do way more harm than good, by leading to a reduction in repeat business. I, for one, would take my vacation dollars elsewhere if I didn't feel that I was getting enough value for my money. Just my opinion. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatka Posted April 10, 2023 #23 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Some villas at Coco Cay (Royal Caribbean) now cost $1500 - $3800. As long as people are paying it cruiselines will charge it. If not they will lower prices. Seems like people are paying it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PrincessArlena'sDad Posted April 10, 2023 #24 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, jcearth said: I have gotten villas 4 or 5 times in the past. They were a great investment at $499 split a few ways, and still pretty good at $599. I balked at $649 but still went ahead and rented (had others pitch in, so still thought value was ok). $999 would be a deal breaker for me, however. Here is my question - how do you define maximizing revenue? Even if the company still sold all of the Villas and Cabanas and the new rate, how many customers are alienated by the inflated pricing? What value does Carnival place on repeat business? What value do they place on the customer experience? I would argue that raising prices on optional items could do way more harm than good, by leading to a reduction in repeat business. I, for one, would take my vacation dollars elsewhere if I didn't feel that I was getting enough value for my money. Just my opinion. I agree to an extent. But, not so much for the villas. There are only 5 of them, and thousands of passengers on the ship. 99% are not getting a villa, regardless of the price. If the villas cost only $100, but thousands of people who would have rented one couldn't get one simply because they didn't do it fast enough lead to better feelings? Of course, they'd be better off building 5 more of them and charging $600 each, and easily get $6000 of revenue per day, as opposed to the $5000/day they are getting. Now, for other optional items, like beach umbrellas, floating mats, then, yes, maximizing revenue could lead to decreased customer satisfaction, which, in the long run, less revenue. Happy customers tend to spend more. Annoyed customers spend less. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csm5986142 Posted April 10, 2023 #25 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Yes unfortunately supply...demand...inflation. I just wish my salary would catch up. But it's not just Carnival. We recently spent a weekend at Disneyland and I was just amazed at the price of everything. People complain like crazy about the price of park tickets/hotels/food & water, yet there are hoards of people there spending money like crazy, so I can't really blame the business. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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