I GIVE UP......

[3red7s]

I know that the Covid has controlled much of our lives lately.  My hubby and I are Diamond + & both members of the Club Royale.  I have had 5 cruises cancelled since the Covid, as i am sure, some others have.  I am throwing in the towel......I am so sick of booking, being hopeful, only to have my cruise cancelled.  My computer is full of post its, trying to track the refunds that I am getting.  Although we truly love and miss cruising, we are just not going to do it anymore....

 

[davekathy]

2 minutes ago, 3red7s said:

I know that the Covid has controlled much of our lives lately.  My hubby and I are Diamond + & both members of the Club Royale.  I have had 5 cruises cancelled since the Covid, as i am sure, some others have.  I am throwing in the towel......I am so sick of booking, being hopeful, only to have my cruise cancelled.  My computer is full of post its, trying to track the refunds that I am getting.  Although we truly love and miss cruising, we are just not going to do it anymore....

 

Bon Voyage...🥂

[soremekun]

I think as a treatment or vaccine becomes widely available, things will slowly open back up.

[firefly333]

Maybe book further out. If you have had 5 cancelled you must be booking every month. 

 

Book later in 2021, or I to 2022, instead of months you have to know will get cancelled. I'd say good chance another round or two cancelled. If you are booking dates within the no sail order how could you not expect to be cancelled

[oceanblue33]

4 minutes ago, davekathy said:

Bon Voyage...🥂

Hang in there many of us have cancelled our cruise it'll get better everything will I promise just be patient.

Edited June 25, 2020 by oceanblue33

[swooldri]

We feel your frustration..we have had 6 cancelled since April...and still tracking all the "refunds".  Yes...Please start up soon.  We all need to just hang in there and roll with the "punches"

Later....Steve

[JAMESCC]

You just need to book way further out. Late 2021 is a good bet. We just moved our cancelled cruise to August 2021. Maybe to be extra safe go even later in 2021 or even 2022.

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[Sunshine3601]

I completely understand your frustration.  We had a march, may, b2b for europe in august and this week our october bermuda cruise.  Next booking I have is for 12 night on anthem in december.   I'm going to remain hopeful.  I'm happy to say all the refunds and fccs I have requested have all been done within 2 to 3 weeks.  Hoping the bermuda cancellation will be the same.

Be thankful you are well and try to live by the health and happiness code.

[bouhunter]

We lifted and shifted all our cruises to late 2021 and 2022.  Happy RCCL is only sitting minimal deposits as all were booked on board .  We're moving on from cruising for a while and planning other travel next winter.  We're D+ too and spent 6 weeks on ships last winter.  I'm surprised how easy it has been to forget about cruising for the next year and a half 🙂

 

I feel for the people dealing with all the refunds and cancellations, it has to be frustrating and tedious.

Edited June 25, 2020 by bouhunter

[davekathy]

18 minutes ago, oceanblue33 said:

Hang in there many of us have cancelled our cruise it'll get better everything will I promise just be patient.

We haven't given up on cruising. 

Edited June 25, 2020 by davekathy

[The Grumpus]

I certainly understand your frustration, I'm not booking anything right now. I don't really see the point until I know what to expect.  I don't need to be constantly shuffling and shifting cruises I have booked and got cancelled.  The cruises I lost due to COVID I cancelled instead of shifting because it's a game and no one knows when the real come back date will be.  But don't stress it, there's nothing you can do about it and there are other things to do besides.  When the ships come back and it's safe enough to cruise again, I will start booking cruises again, and that's fine.  Until then though,  just look at this as taking a break from cruising and stop booking cruises if it's stressing you out so much.  When they finally do come back FOR SURE, go crazy!

[3red7s]

It just is all very sad and frustrating

 

[Germancruiser]

Heads up- even though the neck is a bit messy...!

[The_Big_M]

1 hour ago, soremekun said:

I think as a treatment or vaccine becomes widely available, things will slowly open back up.

 

"if" a treatment or vaccine becomes available...

[Iamcruzin]

2 hours ago, 3red7s said:

I know that the Covid has controlled much of our lives lately.  My hubby and I are Diamond + & both members of the Club Royale.  I have had 5 cruises cancelled since the Covid, as i am sure, some others have.  I am throwing in the towel......I am so sick of booking, being hopeful, only to have my cruise cancelled.  My computer is full of post its, trying to track the refunds that I am getting.  Although we truly love and miss cruising, we are just not going to do it anymore....

 

I don't blame you. I don't know how people are even keeping track of the refunds, FCC's, and the Lift and Shifts. If you didn't have a Travel Agent this would be the time I would want one.  There are going to be so many modifications to the first itineraries going out do to possible ports closing.  How does anyone really know what they are booking anymore?

[EscapeFromConnecticut]

Some reality:

   1. COVID doesn't care about "optimism." 
   2.  COVID isn't defeated by pretending it has gone away ... or by dismissing cold truths with the witless reply of "Debbie downers!! doom and gloom!"
   3. There have been a few posters on CC who've consistently cautioned against baseless "optimism" - week after week, ever since March. Those posts have been based on evidence. Every time.
   4.  But more than a few CC members have still gone ahead & booked, even though every fact available warned that the cruise would probably never happen.
   5.  Some of those "optimists" have been posting pretty much the same thing every few weeks: "Cruising is sure to start again." They just change the month each time: First the CDC will rescind the No Sail Order in April, then Trump will override it in May, then surely the cruise lines will be going again in June, then "August 1 looks good."  Now they're all about October.
   6. The ugly truth is that nothing has changed since February. Nothing. There's no cure, no symptom treatment, no vaccine, not even a deeply reliable test. And despite having three months, cruise executives still haven't figured out how to arrange cruises safely enough to meet public health guidelines.
    7. All of that suggests only one rational conclusion: Don't bank on cruising any time soon. If surprise good news should surface, that's great ... we can intelligently book cruises after that. Because the evidence will tell us to be optimistic. But right now, that's not the case.
     If you want to avoid disappointment forget the lies about "we're reopening, we're on our way back to normal."  Forget hydroxychloroquine. Forget "it will go away like a miracle." Concentrate on the evidence.

Edited June 25, 2020 by EscapeFromConnecticut

[diesel1973]

18 minutes ago, Iamcruzin said:

I don't blame you. I don't know how people are even keeping track of the refunds, FCC's, and the Lift and Shifts. If you didn't have a Travel Agent this would be the time I would want one.  There are going to be so many modifications to the first itineraries going out do to possible ports closing.  How does anyone really know what they are booking anymore?

I booked thru a TA and couldn't get a response from them and resorted to dispute thru CC and got  immediate refund. I think I am done cruising for awhile.

[Iamcruzin]

5 minutes ago, diesel1973 said:

I booked thru a TA and couldn't get a response from them and resorted to dispute thru CC and got  immediate refund. I think I am done cruising for awhile.

So I guess you aren't one of the lucky ones on CC that I read about who has a TA that goes to bat for you.

[Iamcruzin]

21 minutes ago, EscapeFromConnecticut said:

Some reality:

   1. COVID doesn't care about "optimism." 
   2.  COVID isn't defeated by pretending it has gone away ... or by dismissing cold truths with the witless reply of "Debbie downers!! doom and gloom!"
   3. There have been a few posters on CC who've consistently cautioned against baseless "optimism" - week after week, ever since March. Those posts have been based on evidence. Every time.
   4.  But more than a few CC members have still gone ahead & booked, even though every fact available warned that the cruise would probably never happen.
   5.  Some of those "optimists" have been posting pretty much the same thing every few weeks: "Cruising is sure to start again." They just change the month each time: First the CDC will rescind the No Sail Order in April, then Trump will override it in May, then surely the cruise lines will be going again in June, then "August 1 looks good."  Now they're all about October.
   6. The ugly truth is that nothing has changed since February. Nothing. There's no cure, no symptom treatment, no vaccine, not even a deeply reliable test. And despite having three months, cruise executives still haven't figured out how to arrange cruises safely enough to meet public health guidelines.
    7. All of that suggests only one rational conclusion: Don't bank on cruising any time soon. If surprise good news should surface, that's great ... we can intelligently book cruises after that. Because the evidence will tell us to be optimistic. But right now, that's not the case.
     If you want to avoid disappointment forget the lies about "we're reopening, we're on our way back to normal."  Forget hydroxychloroquine. Forget "it will go away like a miracle." Concentrate on the evidence.

I hope you saved this to a word document because I'm sure you will need to copy and paste it to threads in the not too far future.

[Mikew0805]

2 hours ago, 3red7s said:

It just is all very sad and frustrating

 

Understand, I am very sad with you. I also booked through Casino Royale and at least they are honoring the comps and allowing them to be moved... which is more than they normally do.

 

I find that keeping them booked gives me something to look forward to.

 

Hang in there... 

Edited June 25, 2020 by Mikew0805

[Mikew0805]

42 minutes ago, Iamcruzin said:

I don't blame you. I don't know how people are even keeping track of the refunds, FCC's, and the Lift and Shifts. If you didn't have a Travel Agent this would be the time I would want one.  There are going to be so many modifications to the first itineraries going out do to possible ports closing.  How does anyone really know what they are booking anymore?

Nah.. a simple Excel spread sheet works just fine for keeping track. 

[Iamcruzin]

Just now, Mikew0805 said:

Nah.. a simple Excel spread sheet works just fine for keeping track. 

 The OP is using post it notes on the computer monitor.  The only spreadsheet I ever needed was for the Drink package calculator.

[Mikew0805]

1 minute ago, Iamcruzin said:

 The OP is using post it notes on the computer monitor.  The only spreadsheet I ever needed was for the Drink package calculator.

Yeah I saw the post its, mentioning my excel sheet could be beneficial if they didn't think of doing that. There are free spreadsheets if one does not have excel.

 

Never needed it for the drink package... I only need it to keep track of Royal's funky math when they start doing refunds and there is more than one card on file, and the sailing date changed, and now taxes went up $x.xx per person, oh and now I can get a JS for only $78 more per person, and that is split onto each persons card, and now one person cancels, and it is a solo cruise. Etc... Etc... Etc... Their computer system for processing refunds is why I keep a spreadsheet... and my sanity. 

 

 

[Etta1213]

Before Covid, we had to cancel a b2b2b because of a serious health issue. Then Covid, and I really fell into an emotional slump. I wound up asking myself why I had depended so much on the stimulation of cruising - planning, waiting, packing, etc - and i didn't entirely like my answers, had to make some changes in my thinking. I will be so excited to get back on a ship, but I am more focused on my husband and children now. I doubt most of you were neglectful in these areas.

[crazyank]

2 hours ago, EscapeFromConnecticut said:

Some reality:

   1. COVID doesn't care about "optimism." 
   2.  COVID isn't defeated by pretending it has gone away ... or by dismissing cold truths with the witless reply of "Debbie downers!! doom and gloom!"
   3. There have been a few posters on CC who've consistently cautioned against baseless "optimism" - week after week, ever since March. Those posts have been based on evidence. Every time.
   4.  But more than a few CC members have still gone ahead & booked, even though every fact available warned that the cruise would probably never happen.
   5.  Some of those "optimists" have been posting pretty much the same thing every few weeks: "Cruising is sure to start again." They just change the month each time: First the CDC will rescind the No Sail Order in April, then Trump will override it in May, then surely the cruise lines will be going again in June, then "August 1 looks good."  Now they're all about October.
   6. The ugly truth is that nothing has changed since February. Nothing. There's no cure, no symptom treatment, no vaccine, not even a deeply reliable test. And despite having three months, cruise executives still haven't figured out how to arrange cruises safely enough to meet public health guidelines.
    7. All of that suggests only one rational conclusion: Don't bank on cruising any time soon. If surprise good news should surface, that's great ... we can intelligently book cruises after that. Because the evidence will tell us to be optimistic. But right now, that's not the case.
     If you want to avoid disappointment forget the lies about "we're reopening, we're on our way back to normal."  Forget hydroxychloroquine. Forget "it will go away like a miracle." Concentrate on the evidence.

Wow!  can you be anymore of a downer?